Cutter’s shifty swapping of led chips

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Gond00s

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would like to add.I have had problems asked for a solution many times he says he will but never does so cutter is not a great place for me anymore. if i do anything i might go some hlgs or chilled also qb800's sound not bad either.
 

welight

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I was involved in this project/clusterfuck since day one with Mark/ Teknik. It was me who asked Teknik to help customize a spectrum using his blues, i was using Marks strips as the base.

teknik was nothing but helpful during the entire process. Answered any and every question I had , never once asking for anything in return. Offered to test them and get me the numbers if I wanted.

I don’t recall him ever having inventory issues while I was waiting weeks for mark to send my strips.

Teknik still has his blues and It seems Mark is choosing to not use them so he can go a cheaper route, knock off Teknik with something blue , make more money and capatilize on growers wanting the teknik spectrum. Tekniks blues are expensive but legit. Mark not using teknik blues is his choice, Mark selling the blues he’s Using and still claiming they are tekniks is where I have issue and is just very bad business.


I’ve been loyal to mark and cutter since I started. That’s done now. This was a dirty move Mark. Such a shame.

I’ve been in contact with teknik Regularly since December regarding these blues/strips. So I know the timeline and most of the shit that went down. Teknik predicted this happening shortly after I got my strips(February/March) He told me point blank that mark was Gonna screw him over on the blues.

My new lights still aren’t built because of this mess. I had no intention of promoting something that resulted in teknik getting screwed.

If anyone has any questions ask away, I still talk to teknik regularly , I have every message we sent during this project.
Hi Diggs, sorry you feel that way. Im very disappointed that teknik back in Feb/March mentioned, I guess in confidence, I was going to screw him over on his chips. I have never had any intention of screwing him over, not sure why I would, we have been happy to buy his chip.

We tried to recently order his deep red and were told they could be months away and he did not want to take an order .

We used a different chip on this, that we use on our antibacterial boards, these are not Teknik's chip, and we dont advertise the teknik blue on the anti bac board as it has more 405 that customers had asked for, for COVID applications. this is a mistake and is on me
Cheers
 
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diggs99

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I can't believe that most on here are still wiling to get the reach around from a couple guys half a world away.
TEKNIK is not longer allowed on this forum why?? Real nice guy only wanting to educate folks right?
And as for Cutter, Mark seems nice enough on the surface but when looking for lighting to drive photosynthesis with proper photomorphogenic traits, I just can't hand my money to a led seller who doesn't even know what a 6500K T5 Spectral Distribution Graph looks like :peace:
Teknik isnt allowed here anymore because he was trolling some clowns with the truth and he got petty banned because of it. It has nothing to do with his knowledge or business practices.
 

H G Griffin

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Please feel free to return the product, happy to give you an RMA. I will check with teknik if he has more stock of the PC blue as he did not the last time we checked. I believe what has happened was we used our chip from our anti bacterial board, this was my mistake, so happy to cop it. It is not Ledtekniks PC BLUE chip as it is not phosphor converted
Cheers
Mark
So you didn't tell OP twice in writing that you had used the material that he had ordered and paid for while knowing that wasn't true? You didn't try claiming your substitution was just as good when you got caught? It was all just an innocent mistake?

Either you are a liar or you are calling OP a liar. OP claims to have documentation. Care to put your cards on the table?
 

diggs99

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So you didn't tell OP twice in writing that you had used the material that he had ordered and paid for while knowing that wasn't true? You didn't try claiming your substitution was just as good when you got caught? It was all just an innocent mistake?

Either you are a liar or you are calling OP a liar. OP claims to have documentation. Care to put your cards on the table?
Ive seen the documentation from OP, I dont see any logical reasoning other than the obvious unfortunately.

Not cool.
 
Tis a shame, I sent an email over a week ago to Mark asking for help with a custom strip build I'd like to do, asked about using some of those SSK-1560ZGE-UVABoost strips and specifically mentioned I wanted to use Teknik's PC blues and I haven't even gotten a response. Guess I have to shop elsewhere.
 

guy6969

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This is disgusting Mark. Some one works very hard to create a great product and you try to copy and lie about using his. You are a big enough company that you can fucking pay for the product and sell what you are saying. Not that anyone shouldn’t but wtf man. That is just bad business and scummy as a human being. This really does make me furious and I hope enough people can see the grimey moves you pull so they don’t also get screwed over.
 

spek9

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This is disgusting Mark. Some one works very hard to create a great product and you try to copy and lie about using his. You are a big enough company that you can fucking pay for the product and sell what you are saying. Not that anyone shouldn’t but wtf man. That is just bad business and scummy as a human being. This really does make me furious and I hope enough people can see the grimey moves you pull so they don’t also get screwed over.
This entire what appears to be criminal fraud would never have been spotted if OP didn't do his homework on verifying the components. Good on you, OP.
 

DukeFluke

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Well it's apt timing to see this thread posted at the top of the page.

I placed an order with Mark/Cutter @welight on the 15th of May. I was told it would be posted within a couple of days. Anyway, I left it longer because I had another couple of lights to build and was already told that Cutter can take their time on orders so if I was in a rush maybe shop elsewhere, I took all that into account and was expecting to wait a few weeks to be honest,

But... after about a month passed by I tried getting hod of mark by one email... then another... then another... and the I tried Pm'ing him on here... I got no response, so I mentioned it in my thread on the 22nd of June

This was the response:

Hi Duke
I emailed you, your order is going to ship in the next 24 hours
Cheers
Mark
That was on the 22nd of June. I was still ok with that to be fair, and I didn't mention the fact that I never did receive that email, after thoroughly checking all of the accounts which could have been used.

It's now the 19th of the following month and I've had to place another order with Future Electronics in the end. That order was placed last night so I'd like to request that my order be cancelled and I'm issued a refund.

I've got to say this, there are no hard feelings my end. I had other lights to build and Future Elec are quick with their delivery in every way so I'll be sorted i a few days... But the issue I have is the blatant disregard for just telling the customer the truth regarding their order, and that seems to be in line with the OP's issue, albeit in a different way.

Like I say, a refund will be enough for me. I hope at least that can be sorted quickly. Thanks
 

welight

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let me just make a couple of points. Our chip is not a copy of Tekniks chip, it is not phosphor converted, it is not cheaper than tekniks chip. We designed it for anti bact application for a specific customer after trying tekniks chip and found it was not SPD specific enough for that application, did I fuck up trying to promote it as an alternative to tekniks chip, yes I did, my apologies to OP Im happy to offer a refund on the product as it is not what you ordered, no excuses, just a bad decision
 

DukeFluke

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let me just make a couple of points. Our chip is not a copy of Tekniks chip, it is not phosphor converted, it is not cheaper than tekniks chip. We designed it for anti bact application for a specific customer after trying tekniks chip and found it was not SPD specific enough for that application, did I fuck up trying to promote it as an alternative to tekniks chip, yes I did, my apologies to OP Im happy to offer a refund on the product as it is not what you ordered, no excuses, just a bad decision
What about my order Mark? Can you process that refund?
 

DukeFluke

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I think Admin should shut this thread down-

Cutter stuffed up its been owned time to move on - return product ,get a refund simple fix , order product from elsewhere ( think the supplier will/may reach out)
Wait a minute... If people, including me, are waiting on a reply from @welight give us a chance to get one first before you start calling in the mods
 

Orb

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let me just make a couple of points. Our chip is not a copy of Tekniks chip, it is not phosphor converted, it is not cheaper than tekniks chip. We designed it for anti bact application for a specific customer after trying tekniks chip and found it was not SPD specific enough for that application, did I fuck up trying to promote it as an alternative to tekniks chip, yes I did, my apologies to OP Im happy to offer a refund on the product as it is not what you ordered, no excuses, just a bad decision
You were for sure selling them as Tekniks pc blue chips though, you offered to make me some custom strips just a few weeks back and never once cared to mention the chips would be replaced with your own copy, even went as far as to call them Tekniks chips yourself in your own words over email, that's not just a bad decision it's straight up fraud dude
 

sunni

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Teknik isnt allowed here anymore because he was trolling some clowns with the truth and he got petty banned because of it. It has nothing to do with his knowledge or business practices.
Tekniks not allowed here because he couldnt follow basic rules of the forum, and than screamed in my inbox after refusing to stop name calling, and continued to name call.
he was warned several times, and he infinite amount of 3 year old meltdowns in my inbox.
There was no "truth invovleD" just a whiny person whocouldnt get over himself to follow forum rules.
 

welight

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Does this also happen when Nichia is ordered from Cutter and they are swapped out for cheap Cree in hope no-one can tell the difference?
I think I have owned this as a fuck up on my part, our chip is not a Teknik replacement, it was designed for another application, albeit that it is a similar spectrum, without the broader phosphor and Im happy to refund you
Does this also happen when Nichia is ordered from Cutter and they are swapped out for cheap Cree in hope no-one can tell the difference?
the nichia and Cree chip are quite specifically different
Wait a minute... If people, including me, are waiting on a reply from @welight give us a chance to get one first before you start calling in the mods
I will email you directly
 

sunni

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Edited the post because you cant put someones face and first and last name out here, its considered doxxing and not cool. like really fucking not cool

Second this is the second post you've made spamming for teknik knowing hes not allowed here, and than subsequently because youre mad at welight you keep reporting his posts.
stop promoting for teknik its clearly obvious. hes not allowed here because he acts like a 3 year old.

@welight you're not an advertiser here, take your customer support to email

This thread doesnt need to be here, since its about customer service issues not related to rollitup, you can take it to the people you need too, you dont need an entire forum post over it because this is what happens, a big drama fest
 
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