Curious

i came across a thread from 2010 about flushing organics indoors if you aren’t using slow release fertilizers. Does anyone have an opinion on this years later? My thinking was slow release would be better because the gals will never be hungry, but if I’m using fertilizers that I can flush out and in the end be able to smoke faster due to less curing that sounds like a pretty good deal.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/organic-soil-grow-necessary-to-flush.368400/

Also not trying to use bottles, my first two grows were AN and JR Peters I’m trying to just use meals, teas, guano

Flushing does nothing to make it cure faster. All you would be doing is rinsing the nutes from the soil, which wouldn't affect the plant at all except maybe make it absorb a little more moisture. Counter productive.

cindysid said:

Flushing does nothing to make it cure faster. All you would be doing is rinsing the nutes from the soil, which wouldn't affect the plant at all except maybe make it absorb a little more moisture. Counter productive.

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I didn’t mean it would cure faster, there would be less chlorophyll in it was my thinking. So less of a cure time to get the taste out

Nope. You can’t remove the Chlorophyll that way. Your plant will just be saturated with water and it will take you longer to dry and cure

cindysid said:

Nope. You can’t remove the Chlorophyll that way. Your plant will just be saturated with water and it will take you longer to dry and cure

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Appreciate it, do you have anything to chime in with slow release vs constant amendments for overall quality and taste? Or is it more of a different strokes for different folks type deal? Like gardening as a whole is definitely a hobby I love doing, but as far as constantly adding things to the soil unless it gets better results than just water and teas it doesn’t seem worth it. Less time to smoke the Jazz cabbage

My mix is 1:1:1 peat moss, worm castings, perlite

And one cup of all amendments
Kelp meal
Alfalfa meal
Crab meal
Neem meal
Malted barley
Gypsum
Azomite
langbeinite
Fish bone meal
Oyster shell flour

Cook it for 2-3 months

All flushing does is remove salts (sulfates, acids, nitrates). With natural organics there isn't any salts to flush. With an amended soil you can water with plain water for several months. You're not force feeding like you would be with bottled nutes. With an amended soil or living soil the plant is in control and uptakes what it wants and when it wants.

No such thing as slow release amendments . They just take longer to break down. Like dolomite lime and green sand take up to 2 years to break down. The elements and minerals are not available for plant uptake until the amendments have broken down. So dolomite lime and green sand are useless. Crab shell meal only takes a couple weeks to break down.

I only reamend my soil 2 -3 times a year. My soil is over 10 years old. I run coots soil recipe.

TheCauf said:

Appreciate it, do you have anything to chime in with slow release vs constant amendments for overall quality and taste? Or is it more of a different strokes for different folks type deal? Like gardening as a whole is definitely a hobby I love doing, but as far as constantly adding things to the soil unless it gets better results than just water and teas it doesn’t seem worth it. Less time to smoke the Jazz cabbage

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There was a guy at some hydro store I used to frequent who told me that guanos really bring out the flavors. So I bought biggest bag they had. Cha-Ching!
Bat/bird guano is a higher cost than most other npk inputs and while it seems sexy to a dumbass grower it benefits the shop owner as much as the plants. Chicken manure works just the same as guano at much lower cost. It doesn't matter what organic inputs you decide to use as long as you provide the plants with all they need.
Amending and recycling the soil improves it over time because it can take years for some things to break down & become available to the microbes. There is no one thing you can add to the soil that will change the game all that much with the exception of compost. Keeping the soil active microbally is almost more important than which amendments you choose. Teas keep the party rocking by providing soluble organic material & microbes but if you just add fresh worm casting globally or as a simple top dressing does a lot of the same thing albeit at a slower pace. If plants are happy and healthy throughout the whole grow then the bud will represent the flavor of the strain. Keep em green; they do the rest.

I disagree that the only one benefiting from guano is the shop owner...

I use bat guano for the micro and macro nutrient content as well as the microbes they bring. A lot of bird guano is hot, and I have burned plants with chicken scratch as well as seabird guano. I prefer to compost bird shit, my parents have macaws and next years crop will be grown with their composted turds.