hey grumpy,for both outdoor recirc,and soil.for soil i use charlie carp,manutec bloom booster,seaweed,and molasass,i didnt go the whole hog,trace elements,conditioning.but its alright.growth was good,now bud size is not up to par,i used to slay it outdoors,now i cant turn a trick,just get average results.outdoor recirc is good,i flip indoor to outdoor,and use dutchy gold range,with silica,and budstorm at the 6th week,i also swap from dutchy gold to cyco with gh flush in the last two weeks to get more smell and flavour.