Cryptozoological Snake

Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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Recently a snake fossil was found at a coal mine in South America that is being touted as the largest snake in history. The Titanoboa was a tropical snake related closely to modern day anaconda. The fossil that was found has been estimated to have been 48 feet (14.63 meters) in length. Experts speculate there could have been snakes much larger.

The Titanoboa arrived on the scene after the Chicxulub incident during the Paleocene Epoch. The reason for their extinction is being blamed on global cooling. The hotter the climate, the bigger the snake.

Even though they lived 58 to 60 million years ago there are reports of giant snake sightings going back over a hundred years ago. There is even a (questionable) photo taken from a plane showing a snake that has been estimated to exceed 40 feet. First nation people report encounters on a regular basis.

It's just wild speculation but could parts of the Amazon have remained hot enough for a small population to survive?

i'm stoned.
 
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gioua

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I am sure there are 1000's++ of unknown species left around the world.. we have explored only 10% of the ocean..

Tribal regions around the globe report sightings of unknown larger animals and when shown books and pics of animals that are said to have lived in the area they sometimes cant pick out what they saw vs what their are shown..

Exploration really did not begin till the mid 19th Century and then it was more of a treasure hunt then documentation..
 
cheechako

cheechako

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I doubt "the hotter the climate, the bigger the snake." More like, warm temps were only one factor in the larger snakes. There were many, many others. They had had now-extinct critters to eat and even more jungle than there is now. They probably had a much cleaner environment, free from all the toxins and whatnot that modern civilization has unleashed.

We keep finding new species, but I'm not so sure we find many big ones.
 
Jimmyjonestoo

Jimmyjonestoo

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I agree. I say there are plenty of things about this planet we still know nothing about and its possible that this creaturre still exists.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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cheechako said:
I doubt "the hotter the climate, the bigger the snake." More like, warm temps were only one factor in the larger snakes. There were many, many others. They had had now-extinct critters to eat and even more jungle than there is now. They probably had a much cleaner environment, free from all the toxins and whatnot that modern civilization has unleashed.

We keep finding new species, but I'm not so sure we find many big ones.
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I'm talking about tropical snakes. All large snakes live in tropical climates AND the warmer the temps the bigger the snake.

The scientists involved with the discovery and classification of Titanoboa theorize that global warming will not harm tropical climates and that snakes the size of Titanoboa are possible.
 
cheechako

cheechako

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Carne Seca said:
I'm talking about tropical snakes. All large snakes live in tropical climates AND the warmer the temps the bigger the snake.

The scientists involved with the discovery and classification of Titanoboa theorize that global warming will not harm tropical climates and that snakes the size of Titanoboa are possible.
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I agreed warmer temps can make for bigger snakes. I should have said, "I doubt just..." But I did say that is probably just one factor. Just like more CO2 for our plants has to be balanced with an increase in the other limiting factors.

And perhaps global warming isn't affecting the tropical climate. "During the past 40 years, close to 20 percent of the Amazon rain forest has been cut down—more than in all the previous 450 years since European colonization began." I think that might have an impact on the region and the fauna.
 
VTMi'kmaq

VTMi'kmaq

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Carne Seca said:
Recently a snake fossil was found at a coal mine in South America that is being touted as the largest snake in history. The Titanoboa was a tropical snake related closely to modern day anaconda. The fossil that was found has been estimated to have been 48 feet (14.63 meters) in length. Experts speculate there could have been snakes much larger.

The Titanoboa arrived on the scene after the Chicxulub incident during the Paleocene Epoch. The reason for their extinction is being blamed on global cooling. The hotter the climate, the bigger the snake.

Even though they lived 58 to 60 million years ago there are reports of giant snake sightings going back over a hundred years ago. There is even a (questionable) photo taken from a plane showing a snake that has been estimated to exceed 40 feet. First nation people report encounters on a regular basis.

It's just wild speculation but could parts of the Amazon have remained hot enough for a small population to survive?

i'm stoned.
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the smithsonian channel has been hammering that program lately .wonderful show tho, It seesm that back then there was shitloads more oxygen in our atmosphere and everything was larger not just titanaboa, i saw the ribs in that colombian coal mine i was like so this snake is the equivalent to two telephone poles both in width and length? I am glad i didnt share the same area!
 
VTMi'kmaq

VTMi'kmaq

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Carne Seca said:
I'm talking about tropical snakes. All large snakes live in tropical climates AND the warmer the temps the bigger the snake.

The scientists involved with the discovery and classification of Titanoboa theorize that global warming will not harm tropical climates and that snakes the size of Titanoboa are possible.
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agreed carne as soon as we leave em alone(which i doubt) nature will alow them to be all that they can be. I mean look at some fish they got intedetminate^sp growth, meaning they'll grow until they die or stop eating.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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VTMi'kmaq said:
the smithsonian channel has been hammering that program lately .wonderful show tho, It seesm that back then there was shitloads more oxygen in our atmosphere and everything was larger not just titanaboa, i saw the ribs in that colombian coal mine i was like so this snake is the equivalent to two telephone poles both in width and length? I am glad i didnt share the same area!
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Our region doesn't have the Smithsonian channel. :(

Insects, reptiles and amphibians tend to grow much larger in tropical climates. I'll just stay in the desert. Where I'm relatively safer. :p
 
VTMi'kmaq

VTMi'kmaq

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Carne Seca said:
Our region doesn't have the Smithsonian channel. :(

Insects, reptiles and amphibians tend to grow much larger in tropical climates. I'll just stay in the desert. Where I'm relatively safer. :p
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ya know carne its funny you mention that cause im watching a program right now and this herprtologist jose rivas use's his BARE FEET to feel for anaconda in the pantanal! I mean yeah he is a scientist and used to this but NO DAMN WAY am i going barefoot stumbling into a pissed off female anaconda! Straight muscle and sinew in a muddy wet swamp, yeah the desert sounds rightous!
 
Stonerman Enoch

Stonerman Enoch

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This snake ate a human in the recent Indonesia floods.
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Probably a reticulated Python by the looks of it. They can grow to be as long as anacondas(around 34 ft) but are not quite as heavy and wide.
 
GreatwhiteNorth

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Thanks 420 - I damn near jumped out of my skin ! :cuss:

Interesting "what if's".
In the interior of Alaska the Athabascans natives have an oral history of hunting Mammoth. Typically oral history will only last 4-5 generations maximum, so how do they remember this ?
I have often wondered when (or even if) they actually died out completely.


Alex, I'll take "Gee whiz questions that will probably never be answered" for $64.00.
 
MojoRison

MojoRison

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Carne if we can catch a ceolacanth, then this snake being alive today isn't out of the range of possibility.
 
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