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yea im clearly a crossfitter when i do a wod or two a week an have never set foot in a crossfit gym. atleast i admit that but you....nooo you've been in every one in the country an know they all teach bad form. please dude

uhhh how do i know you're pretendin because you think you know everythin there is about any kinda trainin when you coach high school kids. thats how. atleast i credit the other dude for actually goin to a crossfit box an doin the workouts. you're just talkin out of your ass about the topic. i might not go but i have friends that do it an know others that have seen very real gains an weight loss from it. they arent walkin around hurt either.

there are good an bad trainers everywhere in every gym yet you make it seem like it specifically zoned into crossfit box's. im not blind to anythin i saw somethin that interested me an now i would actually like to make it into a career just to shut people like you up because there wont be bad form in my gym because ill try to the best of my ability to train them right an keep them from injury. does that mean injury wont occur? fuck no anythin can happen just like it can happen in any gym.

oh now the methods of niggas like arnold an lou are now uproven. this is really gettin retarded if they're soo unproven then why am i seein results. an i do bicep curls cause i dont wanna have giant triceps with a baby front side of my arm. has nothin to do with functionality. but curls can be functional in certain circumstances but i guess thats not right either. mines unproven yet you're doin the same movements that you posted just in a prison style instead of usin weights or you do flys with little sliders on the ground instead of dbs cause thats soo much better.....

when you slip off one of them sliders an bust your face open an or break your nose on the floor dont lose faith in how you train man.

arnold was on the juice dude, that is so stupid of you to actually think it works... anything will work when you take 7 dianobol pills and inject countless cc's into your ass...

and yea, biceps curls are soooo functional...LOL>>>>>> when i need to bring something towards my body, you know, adduction, in real life, i will perform a curl... LOL

LOL... funny how you spend more time with me then my wife... you go everywhere I go... LOL retarded to say the least...


slip... if you knew any better, the sliders work well and are made to prevent slippage... LOL how you try to sound like you know everything now...

and good for you if you make it a career... then you will find out how much bullshit xfit is...

and apparently, you think biceps curls will help you when you are older... keep doing biceps curls homie, you wont be able to carry your baby much longer...

like i said man, put in the research time as in on the pc, books, and in person, then come on here and make claims from your experience training people and athletes...

maybe if you take one of their weekend certs that costs a fuck load, you might think you are smart enough then...


and for your information,, my olympic weightlifting coach who just happens to do the weekend certifications for their olympic weightlifting cert told me its all bullshit,,, she is just doing it for the extra cash seeing that many blind people are willing to pay 1000 dollars for a cert...

I dont blame her, she knows the research and in person experience just as i do, but a bit more then me, given that she been doing Oly lifting for 20 yearss..

you are funny though and I admire you for that... trying to debate something you know nothing about....


I could help you out if you want to know more about the industry man... all other shit aside...

blazinkill504 said:

yea im clearly a crossfitter when i do a wod or two a week an have never set foot in a crossfit gym. atleast i admit that but you....nooo you've been in every one in the country an know they all teach bad form. please dude

uhhh how do i know you're pretendin because you think you know everythin there is about any kinda trainin when you coach high school kids. thats how. atleast i credit the other dude for actually goin to a crossfit box an doin the workouts. you're just talkin out of your ass about the topic. i might not go but i have friends that do it an know others that have seen very real gains an weight loss from it. they arent walkin around hurt either.

there are good an bad trainers everywhere in every gym yet you make it seem like it specifically zoned into crossfit box's. im not blind to anythin i saw somethin that interested me an now i would actually like to make it into a career just to shut people like you up because there wont be bad form in my gym because ill try to the best of my ability to train them right an keep them from injury. does that mean injury wont occur? fuck no anythin can happen just like it can happen in any gym.

oh now the methods of niggas like arnold an lou are now uproven. this is really gettin retarded if they're soo unproven then why am i seein results. an i do bicep curls cause i dont wanna have giant triceps with a baby front side of my arm. has nothin to do with functionality. but curls can be functional in certain circumstances but i guess thats not right either. mines unproven yet you're doin the same movements that you posted just in a prison style instead of usin weights or you do flys with little sliders on the ground instead of dbs cause thats soo much better.....

when you slip off one of them sliders an bust your face open an or break your nose on the floor dont lose faith in how you train man.

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oh so it was the steroids that gave arnold the muscle not the actual movements he did.....lmao werd steroids are a ENHANCER. did arnold just shoot up an magically becaue a baby hulk? so every bodybuilder on the earth is just wrong its all the juice not their routine. you're lyin to yourself bro.

what about someone who digs ditches for a livin? no bicep in that? or someone who has to haul bags an bags of mud/suad/what the fuck ever by hand then the reach down an throw it on there shoulder the bicep isnt involved in any of that? to answer your question as i did above no the bicep curl has no real value to the typical human as i said i dont wanna look like an idiot with giant triceps an baby biceps. i highly doubt an i dont even think you can show me a case of someone not bein able to lift their arms directly due to bicep workouts.

yea shit made to slide is slip proof....lmao

uhhh nigga you the one postin too so its kinda like you my bitch too huh? LOL RETARDED

ok so whats your point? the bitch wants to make money an most places you HAVE to have a piece of paper that says "someone that knows what their doin showed you how to do it so now you do" what the fuck you think college is made for brah? to educate kids? bahahahahahaha no buncha money hungry ppl makin a buck off uselessness.

you keep firin back with dumb shit...which shows persistence i guess i can admire that in you

all shit aside i could give a fuck about the industry an that i can help you shit further puts in my head that you think you know every damn thing about any kinda exercise/fitness knowledge. if thats the case why arent you trainin the pros instead of hs kids? not tryin to be a dick about that question either im honestly askin

lemme ask you when did i ever say bicep curls will help you when you're older? this is what im talkin bout i agree crossfit shouldnt be your main form of trainin. neither should just runnin shuttle sprints,sled pushes, an benchin with chains on the bar (never really got why you'd put chains on a bar instead of more weight. bands i get but chains imo serve no purpose) i mean in reality how functional is benchin yet im sure many around the world do it. with a wide grip prolly too which is totally wrong, yet you see ppl in the gym everyday wide grip benchin but thats ok?

because I enjoy seeing these kids develop into major competitors in their sport...

you see, actual strength and conditioning helps bring out the best in an athlete, talented or not... we take the weaknesses found and we adjust accordingly to how the kid responds throughout the training cycle.

also, I have worked with college kids too, one Olympian and out of all of them, the high school kids I work with have the biggest heart and want you can ask for. As a strength coach it is not about how talented a kid is, it is how much that kid wants to reach their goals. The Olympian I speak of, I worked with him since he was a sophomore, way back when he was mediocre to say the least.. But his passion for the sport and his will to put in all the work that was asked of him was amazing... the Most I have ever seen in someone.

and yes, if you give enough time I will learn everything there is to that one exercise... from an exercise phys, biomechanics and S&C stand point... because of that knowledge, I am able to know that most of xfit work is pointless when it comes to athletic performance, unless you are training for the xfit games...


and no man, I aint getting mad... it is all discussion and I like to discuss what I know...

and I never claimed to know everything... you made that outrageous claim...

chains accomodate variable resistance, which is of great help when you are trying to increase your bench or squatting numbers or your explosive power... you can get this with band training as well, but imo chains work better...

as each chain link comes off of the floor, more weight is added, thus recruiting much more muscle fiber per rep when compared to no chains. Many world ranked powerlifters and Olympic lifters use chains and bands in their training, as well as most if not all collegiate and professional football teams and other sports.

no, benching with a wide grip places too much stress at the shoulder complex. over time a very bad thing to do.. .Just like kipping pull ups or endless number of box jumps....

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lemme ask you when did i ever say bicep curls will help you when you're older? this is what im talkin bout i agree crossfit shouldnt be your main form of trainin. neither should just runnin shuttle sprints,sled pushes, an benchin with chains on the bar (never really got why you'd put chains on a bar instead of more weight. bands i get but chains imo serve no purpose) i mean in reality how functional is benchin yet im sure many around the world do it. with a wide grip prolly too which is totally wrong, yet you see ppl in the gym everyday wide grip benchin but thats ok?

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yes bobo... steroids do increase your muscle mass exponentially... that is why most meat heads at the gym are swoll... the juice buddy... not everyone is genetically gifted to do NATURAL bodybuilding, to those my hats go off every time I meet one... i aint a dick... i give respect where respect is earned...

Yes, arnold and his buddies were all on the juice man... look up his encyclopedia of weightlifting, the old version, not the new(90's) edited version... at the very back of the book, it clearly shows his juicing cycle for all to see and he openly promoted it when he was young in the federations of bb..

if you knew more about the industry, you would know that Joe Weider, the famous guy with the equipment and muscle magazines would supply arnold with all the steroids he needed... LIKE I SAID, DO SOME RESEARCH​.

• lmao werd steroids are a ENHANCER. did arnold just shoot up an magically becaue a baby hulk? so every bodybuilder on the earth is just wrong its all the juice not their routine. you're lyin to yourself bro.​

  
  
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no shit they all took steroids dude. i said that lol quit makin points of shit ive already said. what i said was they didnt turn into baby hulk by themselves. it was juice an trainin similar to mine. not sayin what im doin is the way to go its what i have available to me so thats what i do. i also make it a point to do other things to stay well versed with my fitness/trainin.

for like the millionth time i said crossfit isnt prime trainin for an athlete aside ones that go to the crossfit games as you said. i am referin to normal people dude. everyday joes that wanna be in a all around fitness. so now that we got that clear even tho it shoulda been clear like 7 posts ago cause thats how long ive been sayin that crossfit exercises are very optimal for a person that doesnt just wanna go to the gym an bench an squat.

an explain to me how kippin pullups can cause serious injury? the only reason i can see that is the end motion. or do you say that just cause you do strict pullups? when you kip the goal isnt to maximize the work of your lats its to get more workload done in a shorter amount of time. for the record ive never kipped in my life i like strict, but i bet you if i was in them games id be kippin my ass off gettin my whole body active than just my lats. an i havent seen any workout in crossfit where you do more than 30 box jumps an even 30 usually doesnt come up. atleast not continuously

the kip applies plenty of internal and external forces at the joint capsule which is very bad man...

30 for how many sets?

I know all about the kip, i do not need any schooling on it...

xfit is not the only "optimal" training for someone just wanting to go to the gym and not bench and squat. why is it so narrow for you? squat and bench....all the time

thats what i just said. about the kip

an ive never seen one where you do 30 each set its usually dependin on your level of fitness but the highest ive seen all together is 20-25 an lower than that when you're doin it in rounds. an i know its not the only optimal thing you can do, but ppl like the diversity an thats why it has such a "cult" followin. thats another reason why i want to open my own box because i dont want to have some of the wods back to back that some boxs do. i wanna have my clients get rest in the shit they just destroyed a day ago.

i keep sayin squat/bench cause those are usually the generic workouts everyone does that goes to the gym an that can get quite borin.

you said on the way down... very general...

the glenohumeral joint undergoes plenty of stress when doing the kip... you add push presses and power cleans and then box jumps.... that is disaster waiting to happen. Ive heard plenty of stories of blown out rotator cuffs... the same people that endorsed xfit with their lives 6months earlier...

if you want to make money, get the box ... there are plenty of sheep that need to spend their money...


as for the box jumps. if the xfit people were smart enough, they would know that doing over 35 box jumps is retarded.... how many rounds do you do of 30 box jumps? more then 3?

ok thats if you do all of those on the same day or in the same workout. as i said ive seen how they set up wods wont be how i do mine. im also gonna ass mma type trainin into my workouts so i guess ill be under the crossfit label but doin things a little different.

ive never done any round with 30 each round. around 30-40 total in the workout but not each round an ive never seen a wod that have you do an insane amount of box jumps.

it does not have to be just box jumps, why so narrow?

doing 35 snatches in a row is fucking retarded, that is what I am talking about. Do you not see how dumb that is?

Olympic lifts are meant for power, not endurance... these lifts when done with poor technique, as is almost always the case xfit, will lead to a serious injury...

Just seeing their homepage, I can see their haphazardly designed wod's... clearly they think doing high number of reps of snatches, clean and jerks, power cleans, box jumps, is good for the body... it is a temporary thing... is all... check their homepage and you can clearly see that there are plenty of wod's that have you do snatches, cleans, jumps, sprints to maximum for time...

forcing you to do these exercises in a fast pace is the wrong thing to do... these lifts take skill, not brute force...


and how is mma correlate to xfit?

tell me, what in xfit is specific to mma?

you were just askin bout box jumps thats why.

puttin 800 pounds on a back squat an shittin your intestines out is pretty fuckin retarded too

the ppl who do crossfit dont want just power. almost always...c'mon dude we both know its all on the person. if they're serious with it they will keep good form thru all 30 just because they took the time to learn them an do them correctly with lighter weights for 30 reps an worked the weight up.

gimme a wod that does all those movements at a high rep for time? i bet you cant cause the only high rep movments they have are body weight shit. so you're sayin once you have that skill an physically have it wired into you to do them correctly you cant pick up the pace of how many you do an how fast?

an it has nothin to do with their crossfit, but i have a different idea of what crossfit should be. you should be good at olympic lifts, bodyweight exercises, flexibility, endurance, combat skills, runnin, bikin, swimmin just basically anythin you'd need in life. fuck ill take my classes or have a damn rock climbin wall built in my box.

an not all wods are for time. some have you do certain amount of reps on the minute for a certain amount of time. an its hardly a lot of reps. it seems to me bad form varies by the person. some ppl get sloppy no matter what kinda trainin they're doin an others are form nazi's. that goes for every gym

Just go to crossfit.com

You can check for yourself.

Bud, and bad form is done by pro's too. They are no exception if they are given such high set and rep volumes.

Unless your max 1000 plus, 800 pounds is very uncommon for most.


With the things you just mentioned, you have madevmy points more valid. Sports conditioning is all about explosive endurance and speed. Xfit cannot focus on either one cause as you mentioned, they combine a bunch of shit. With real strength and conditioning, we can focus in on each and master, keyword is master each pattern in technique, remove any abnormalities, become more explosive through explosive training.

If you can, attend LSU. They have one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in the nation in coach Moffitt.

aight dude im done with this. this shit an the reason i will open my box HAS NOTHIN to do with sports conditionin holy fuck. im not gonna be tryin to make athletes that go into sports of any kinda. jesus christ you're startin to debate like sativa high with your one track mind.

jeez, i see you do not take good advice man...

I should have known from the way you structured your programs it was a waste of time...

all in all, you have good intentions and hopefully it will work out for... I would like to visit your "box" one day to see how you work and hopefully I could learn some things from you...

and the only one sided person here is you man...

you have no clue on my history within this game. you think Im just some ol slum making shit upp>>> lolllll


I encourage you to continue with your hand stand pushups and countless number of oly lifts thinking they are for fitness and make you a beast.... LOL

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thats cool man...

I NEVER CLAIMED I KNOW EVERYTHING... YOU ARE MAKING THAT RETARDED CLAIM ALL THE TIME...

I wish you the best and I will stop debating with someone of your caliber...

and yea, olympic lifts are never sport specific... LOL that was a joke... and you dont know shit...


What do you know about olympic lifts? Let us see what you know?

How is it now specific to football, shot put, discus, track and field?

you seem to know everything about it... ( you gonna say, "why you saying i know everything") LOL