Thanks man, they really do take well to training, both the sweet black angel and the critical plus. i trained on of each just to give myself a little experience, definitely the way to deal with a tent full of plants to maximize harvest. i kinda threw myself into the deep end on purpose, i feel as if its beginning to pay off. only real issue i have to deal with is the heat, but the 12in fan appears to be keeping it in control, only time will tell. the tallest sweet black angel i have was forced into flower. This made me wonder if force flowering causes the massive amount of stretch which some people have claimed, shes went maybes 230% in 12/12, the others simply doubled but were flowered when mature.