TheGreatSouthern
Well-Known Member
Grow up. You and I both know that data doesn't exist.
There isn't even any data on oral, dermal or inhalation effects of the chemicals on humans. A couple of animal studies and that's it. I read the ones I could find ages ago when I was considering going the PGR route and from memory they were exposing animals to upwards of 1200mg per kg of body weight per day for up to two years and observing some liver swelling and reduction in sperm count, and the studies indicated that effects on humans would be about the same. So an 80kg person would have to consume 102 grams of Paclobutrazol per day to replicate the effects on that animal study? something like that anyway.
One study I read indicated that human greenhouse workers should be able to work safely at an inhalation rate of about 65 micrograms per day, but the point is the studies that have been done on PGRs and their effect on animals aren't relevant to what we're doing with it and yet opponents pick bits out of those studies anyway and treat them as if they're vitally important.
To even consider having an actual discussion about PGRs in cannabis and the effects on the user we would need to know how much the plant uptakes, how much is residual in the bud, how much converts to nitrosamines when smoked and how much remains as PBZ and how much of that is absorbed by the user and we would need to know the safe inhalation limit for both compounds. If I had to guess, and I'm just taking a stab in the dark, I'd say the amount absorbed would be so far below what's considered an acceptable limit people would wonder what all the fuss was about.
It's a bit like those GMO soybeans I was going on about, everyone freaked out about what's going to happen when people eat them and now almost all soy beans are GMO and nobody cares. Then about 6 months ago everyone goes crazy again because GMO cereals being glyphosate resistant are getting sprayed with roundup and traces of roundup are turning up in almost all breakfast cereals on the self, and everyone goes mental about it, then some actual science comes along and it turns out the levels of glypho in the retail product are so low they're barely detectable and quite safe and everyone just goes back to business as usual.
So unless you're the FDA, you've got no business getting up there on your high horse and telling people not to use something until a peer reviewed study showing it's safe gets done. PGRs are here to stay and the best way to manage them is by educating the end user (without fearmongering) so he can make an informed choice.
