Craven's London Pot Shop Closed
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So what?....so they get a visit? So they get Guide lines to follow? So what, it's all part of doing business. Formalities.
As the last Doc said to me. I joined Green Piece. I know the Government hates me now and I DONT CARE!
Most wont when it comes to their pay check at the end of the year. Business is Business and that's their business after all.
So...As it stands right now.
There are some who sign Doctors. There are some NP's who sign also.
I now one personally and she's said she could sign if need be.
As the last Doc said to me. I joined Green Piece. I know the Government hates me now and I DONT CARE!
Most wont when it comes to their pay check at the end of the year. Business is Business and that's their business after all.
So...As it stands right now.
There are some who sign Doctors. There are some NP's who sign also.
I now one personally and she's said she could sign if need be.
I guess she is "the only one" then ...eh! No reports saying they will not.
I'm not tryin to jerk your chain. I don't see me being as obtuse as yourself really.
But hey...its only a persons "view" after all.
cheers
Please...show me something that says someone has lost or had their licenses threatened ?
It is a guide line Mr. Nothing more. They cannot do shit to their colleagues and take their license away!?
My god man...don't be so daft.
THEY CAN"T!
No reports saying they will not.I'm not tryin to jerk your chain. I don't see me being as obtuse as yourself really.
But hey...its only a persons "view" after all.
cheers
Please...show me something that says someone has lost or had their licenses threatened ?
It is a guide line Mr. Nothing more. They cannot do shit to their colleagues and take their license away!?
My god man...don't be so daft.
THEY CAN"T!
oddish
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I spoke with someone who is in charge of a large group of nurses and he said the whole idea seems realistically possible and that it should work. I'm fairly certain he's aware of what the guidelines say.
Still doing my research though - I need more informed individuals who understand that process before I decide if it actually makes sense or not.
Still doing my research though - I need more informed individuals who understand that process before I decide if it actually makes sense or not.
leaffan
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This past week in London, Dr Craven and Dr Hart...that's two in one week in one city.I guess she is "the only one" then ...eh!
I'm not tryin to jerk your chain. I don't see me being as obtuse as yourself really.
But hey...its only a persons "view" after all.
cheers
Please...show me something that says someone has lost or had their licenses threatened ?
It is a guide line Mr. Nothing more. They cannot do shit to their colleagues and take their license away!?
My god man...don't be so daft.
THEY CAN"T!
Your facts are incorrect. They can do something.
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leaffan
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What province?
leaffan
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You think the CMA and the C of P&Ss care about pr?....Jesus people, these groups are at war right now against HC!
oddish
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Ontario.
leaffan
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NP Diagnostic and Prescriptive Authority
This section provides information about the tests and medication that NPs are authorized to order.
DIAGNOSTIC TEST LIST
NPs are authorized to order the following diagnostic tests:
Regulations under the Laboratory and Specimen Collection Centre Licensing Act allow NPs to order laboratory tests as appropriate for client care.
NPs are expected to apply the practice expectations for public protection set out in the Nurse Practitioner practice standard.
MEDICATION
The Nursing Act, 1991 allows NPs to prescribe most medication as appropriate for client care. NPs are not authorized to prescribe controlled substances. (A controlled substance is one that is included in Schedule I, II, III, IV or V of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.)
This section provides information about the tests and medication that NPs are authorized to order.
DIAGNOSTIC TEST LIST
NPs are authorized to order the following diagnostic tests:
- X-rays of the chest, ribs, arm (includes shoulder and elbow), wrist, hand, leg (includes hip and knee), ankle and foot, as well as mammography –– includes specific views (e.g., coned)
- Diagnostic ultrasound of the abdomen, pelvis and breast –– includes specific views (e.g., of a specific organ), techniques (e.g., transvaginal) or indications (e.g., pregnancy) within these anatomical regions
- Electrocardiograms in non-urgent, non-acute circumstances
- Spirometry
Regulations under the Laboratory and Specimen Collection Centre Licensing Act allow NPs to order laboratory tests as appropriate for client care.
NPs are expected to apply the practice expectations for public protection set out in the Nurse Practitioner practice standard.
MEDICATION
The Nursing Act, 1991 allows NPs to prescribe most medication as appropriate for client care. NPs are not authorized to prescribe controlled substances. (A controlled substance is one that is included in Schedule I, II, III, IV or V of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.)
Devil Lettuce
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"You think the CMA and the C of P&Ss care about pr?....Jesus people, these groups are at war right now against HC!"
I have to agree with this. Patients and public perception are secondary right now, there is a full-on war starting between the Colleges and HC as they revolt against being made the gate-keepers to MMJ against their will.
The courts have already ruled that Canadian patients need to have reasonable access to MMJ. The current MMPR system and the resulting backlash from the colleges has made access almost impossible in most cases/locations outside of paying for a Skype doc. The system is already broken and we are only a few months in, and there are cases for litigation popping up all over the place. I think things are going to get extremely interesting in the next little while, something's got to give eventually.
I have to agree with this. Patients and public perception are secondary right now, there is a full-on war starting between the Colleges and HC as they revolt against being made the gate-keepers to MMJ against their will.
The courts have already ruled that Canadian patients need to have reasonable access to MMJ. The current MMPR system and the resulting backlash from the colleges has made access almost impossible in most cases/locations outside of paying for a Skype doc. The system is already broken and we are only a few months in, and there are cases for litigation popping up all over the place. I think things are going to get extremely interesting in the next little while, something's got to give eventually.
oddish
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As I said, I'm early in the learning process. All I know is what I've heard and read.
That said, I've deviated much of my research to the handling of product as opposed to the prescription of it.
Prescribing appears, based on what I'm reading here and elsewhere, to be an issue that may not have a solution yet.
That said, I've deviated much of my research to the handling of product as opposed to the prescription of it.
Prescribing appears, based on what I'm reading here and elsewhere, to be an issue that may not have a solution yet.
leaffan
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They (CofP&Ss) are actively shutting down the skype doctors by threatening them with loss of licences. I know this for a fact.
Ask the LPs what they think, I have. They are seriously concerned.
oddish
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This may all be BS for all I know, but may be worth reading?
http://cnhs.athabascau.ca/news/pmncs.php
http://www.crnns.ca/documents/NursingInFocus-Spring2014.pdf
It's definitely a mess right now. It will change though - they're all claiming that it will and that they're working towards this change in the "near" future.
http://cnhs.athabascau.ca/news/pmncs.php
http://www.crnns.ca/documents/NursingInFocus-Spring2014.pdf
The issue in Ontario is that it's federally accepted but there needs to be an update to the Nursing Act of 1991 before they can make it legal provincially.http://www.crnns.ca/documents/NursingInFocus-Spring2014.pdf said:
It's definitely a mess right now. It will change though - they're all claiming that it will and that they're working towards this change in the "near" future.
oddish
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I don't think they should be that concerned. There are still ways to get a prescription and that will continue to grow.
You should be concerned if you wanted to make a quick million off 20,000 clients in your first year.
leaffan
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Just letting you know what they have said.
leaffan
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If their update is anything like the Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons which have all been updated except Ontario, then there will be no relief in sight. I highly doubt that you will see the Nursing Act be expanded to allow NPs to start writing prescriptions for marijuana
j0yr1d3
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You think just maybe? According to HC's own numbers there is currently 500,000 canadians that use cannabis for medical purposes. There was only 40,000 patients in the MMAR and by most recent numbers 4000-5000 in the MMPR. Thats still 400,000+ people without prescriptions. I've heard numerous stories of category 1 patients of the old system that took years to find a compassionate doctor if they ever did.