Couldn't Pay For Elite membership

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
Wow, I had no idea. My PayPal account was hacked in 2007, I discovered it within a few hours of it occurring, and instead of using emails or contact forms, I immediately called PayPal and informed them that someone had just used my account to purchase four computers on eBay. They reversed the charges in moments, and everything was settled without a hitch. (I then of course changed my passwords on all sites!)

I was very pleased with PayPal's prompt actions against this theft, and have since told many people that they protect you against fraud. I've suggested to them that they also use PayPal's option of generating credit card numbers that can be used however we choose (one time payment only, recurring payments to that merchant only, etc.) in order to protect our real CC#'s from fraud. Now after reading quite a bit at www.paypalsucks.com, I'm thinking I should tell those to whom I'd made these recommendations that I was wrong, and not to trust PayPal as much as I'd thought we should.
Sure, trust Paypal, I've spent the last 5-6 years telling plp why they shouldnt trust any bank let alone a rouge wanna b like paypal.

Hell read the agreement you agree to, that's some scary shite.
 

Katatawnic

Well-Known Member
Well, I should reiterate... I've suggested trusting PayPal more than banks. :lol: But again, that was due to the very positive experience I had with them when I had that hack and theft. (It was my password that was hacked, not my PayPal account itself. I typed that wrong in my last post. The asshole that hacked me emailed me afterward, telling me how he hacked me, gloating! It was because I used the same password for several sites, so once he hacked it that's all he needed.) I'm planning on rereading their TOS just to see what all it says, but again, after reading all I did at paypalsucks.com, I'm more than convinced. ;)
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
Yeah I trust real gov licensed banks before I trust paypal, they aren't governed like a bank is, they legally can steal from you, you agree to it basically.
Real banks can't pull the shit paypal pulls, and banks r pretty underhanded.
 

Katatawnic

Well-Known Member
Banks can and do legally steal from you, as well. Don't let the "governed" part fool you or anyone else. I know this from personal experience, as well as from many other people's experiences. But again, I wasn't aware of PayPal's B.S., and thought they were on the up and up... I haven't had any situations in which they'd have opportunity to screw me, so I had no clue. ;)
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
Well yeah they do steal, has happened to me, other than outragous overdraf fees and the OD fees on debit card transactions which should b illegal all the way around since they are secured funds when you use your check card, anyways.
Yeah paypal is on the up and up to make you think they are more than trust worthy and some plp never have a problem, BUT merchants should truly be weary of em.
Paypals mind set is that YOU are trying to fuck them or someone else over, and that's how they treat you once you become familar with their line of shit.

I wound up sueing them in small claims in my city (what you normally and are legally able to do)
gaypal turned around tried to contest the venue and so on, my uncle was friends with the judge and gave him the heads up (which pissed him off some company was trying to go over his head) and yeah I got my day and they settled before hand.
Part of that settlement was I can't talk about it, yeah will fuck them.
They didn't feel the need to spend those big buck attorneys to reclaim the 3600 my bank had not been able to, see my bank went to bat for me and reclaimed 7000 or so, paypal had taken 11-12000.00 something like that, all over $59 BTW.
so I got a settlement and a check, then I dropped it.
Ill pay though them with prepaid cards, but give them my bank account number, yeah I think NOT.

I hate plp when I sale items online they r like "can you take paypal".
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
So what's the 411 on the elite?? Still waiting and still holding my breath, I think I might pass out soon.!LOL:lol:
LOL
Man I think it's like I said b4, they can't get approval from a bank to take CC transactions cuz it's basically a drug forum and bank's don't want any part of that.

So I do believe it's gonna b a long long wait, notice their hydro shop site is down also.

Im worried that this time next year there wotn be a RIU

notice they added those silly smoking ads lately?
Those ads are such bull shit, it's annoying they can make fake domains for stupid products for the stupid but they cant say hey guys we cant do ellite memberships right now.:wall:
 

Katatawnic

Well-Known Member
So what's the 411 on the elite?? Still waiting and still holding my breath, I think I might pass out soon.!LOL:lol:
Not holding my breath... blue and purple may be great colors for me, but not on my cheeks. :lol:

notice they added those silly smoking ads lately?
Those ads are such bull shit, it's annoying they can make fake domains for stupid products for the stupid but they cant say hey guys we cant do ellite memberships right now.:wall:
I rarely see an ad in my browser... my FF add-on for blocking ads works great! :mrgreen: And yes, I'm quite annoyed that no one has bothered to reply to this thread even to simply say, "Sorry, but we can't do that for now." :roll:
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member


Not holding my breath... blue and purple may be great colors for me, but not on my cheeks. :lol:



I rarely see an ad in my browser... my FF add-on for blocking ads works great! :mrgreen: And yes, I'm quite annoyed that no one has bothered to reply to this thread even to simply say, "Sorry, but we can't do that for now." :roll:
I block ads at my router usually but I was just making a point, they could come up with these gay ads and sites like http://www.the-dallas-tribune.com/ but can't come in here and tell the community what is up with our world here.

It's made me consider other communities, and is another reason I haven't been so active in the last few weeks.
 

Katatawnic

Well-Known Member
Are these ads being referred to lately RIU ads, or from paying advertisers?

Point being it makes sense that someone else is putting the work into the ads, and RIU is getting a "pay-per-click" kind of deal. That is different from RIU putting time and work into it.

However, this wouldn't excuse RIU's lack of responding to our request for help, or at the least acknowledgement. The "ignore" feature RUI has apparently used RE: this thread/issue is unbelievable. I used to rave about how helpful the administration was, but I've come to the opposite conclusion as of late... dunno why!
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
Are these ads being referred to lately RIU ads, or from paying advertisers?

Point being it makes sense that someone else is putting the work into the ads, and RIU is getting a "pay-per-click" kind of deal. That is different from RIU putting time and work into it.

However, this wouldn't excuse RIU's lack of responding to our request for help, or at the least acknowledgement. The "ignore" feature RUI has apparently used RE: this thread/issue is unbelievable. I used to rave about how helpful the administration was, but I've come to the opposite conclusion as of late... dunno why!
The smoking site is a site the RIU guy owns as well, goto http://www.the-dallas-tribune.com/ looks alot like the page u get from RIUs old hydro store that is no longer up. it is a pay per click but what im saying is they take time to put up these silly bogus ad sites and can't even post a pub message, this community isn't cared for and I'm afraid 1 day we are gonna hit up the address to find nothing anymore.

I run a gamer site and do ads for another vapor smoke cig thing and they r a joke and NOONE buys them.

Im not sure y anyone running a weed forum would think their audiance would wanna go for this stuff, encnomy sucks, plp have learned that ads r bull poopie and most dont even bother to click cuz they learned long ago not to.

My other point is, they r wasting time on ads that don't make the $$$ when they could atleast setup some western union payments or something of that nature or atleast TRY to find a way to take our money as tons of us wanna pay $5 a month. Those click ads pay pennies per click and not that well if someone does actually buy something.

I dont make shit on my ads and between all the domains I operate I'm sure I get more traffic than RIU and I don't make that much from ads, sometimes near nothing.

I love this site and all it's the best, I just wish whoever would wake up.
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
I checked to see who owned the domain and RIU is reg though godaddys domain proxy service which makes it private unless the courts request the info
and the dalls bull shit site is registered though another domain proxy service (not godaddy) again to hide the owner

Could have done that so plp wouldn't put 2 and 1 together...

RIUs domain points to ip 207.126.162.246
OrgName: SkipLink, LLC
OrgID: SKIPL
Address: P.O. Box 888741
City: Atlanta
StateProv: GA
PostalCode: 30356
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.skiplink.net:4321

NetRange: 207.126.160.0 - 207.126.167.255
CIDR: 207.126.160.0/21
OriginAS: AS46176
NetName: SKIPLINK
NetHandle: NET-207-126-160-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.COLLECTIVENOC.COM
NameServer: NS2.COLLECTIVENOC.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2008-11-05
Updated: 2008-11-06


dalls BS points to 207.126.163.22
OrgName: SkipLink, LLC
OrgID: SKIPL
Address: P.O. Box 888741
City: Atlanta
StateProv: GA
PostalCode: 30356
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.skiplink.net:4321

NetRange: 207.126.160.0 - 207.126.167.255
CIDR: 207.126.160.0/21
OriginAS: AS46176
NetName: SKIPLINK
NetHandle: NET-207-126-160-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.COLLECTIVENOC.COM
NameServer: NS2.COLLECTIVENOC.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2008-11-05
Updated: 2008-11-06

SO WHAT DO YOU KNOW
RIU owns the dalls bull shit domain.
you can do the same research at whois.com
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
that really is crazy.. i also love this site and most of the people on here are very kool and helpful.. it really is a shame that the admin. doesn't take the time to address its users complaints..
there are over four hundred post on this thread alone, and granted i am sure there are multiple post from the same people, but if you take half of that and do the math of $5/month.. that money adds up quite quickly..
i can understand no paypal and banks not wanting to back a grow forum and all, but come one, there has to be someway to get our money.. i haven't read so many posts complaining that a company is not willing to take their money in my life.. you can just read this post and see all of the lost revenue that riu is missing out on, and the worst part is that they don't seem to care enough to just give a definitive answer one way or another..
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
that really is crazy.. i also love this site and most of the people on here are very kool and helpful.. it really is a shame that the admin. doesn't take the time to address its users complaints..
there are over four hundred post on this thread alone, and granted i am sure there are multiple post from the same people, but if you take half of that and do the math of $5/month.. that money adds up quite quickly..
i can understand no paypal and banks not wanting to back a grow forum and all, but come one, there has to be someway to get our money.. i haven't read so many posts complaining that a company is not willing to take their money in my life.. you can just read this post and see all of the lost revenue that riu is missing out on, and the worst part is that they don't seem to care enough to just give a definitive answer one way or another..
Uhh dude what abnk would want to back anything pot related, if a bank were found to enguange n anything that can b construde as illegal (being not everyone here is legal *cough cough*) they could b in big shity not to mention the bad publicity.

Im a merchant and I know the rules and regs of that game and I know that taking subscriptions for a pot talking site is a HUGE risk, also plp love to charge back small dollar amount shit so if the merchant goes broke and the charge backs roll in, the bank has to pay it.

And well paypal is a goddamn joke, goto paypalsucks.com and c y.
they fuck over real ligit businesses, i found out the hard way and several grand ago.
 

Johnboh

Active Member
if you cant do elite memberships why not just do away with them and let anyone who wants one have one. if you cant collect money, your not making any money. so why not
 

Phenom420

Well-Known Member
if you cant do elite memberships why not just do away with them and let anyone who wants one have one. if you cant collect money, your not making any money. so why not
same reason they wont say anything about it, too goddamn lazy and couldn't care any less.

They prob also see that with the HR645 and FEMA camps that it's prob useless.
 
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