cooking a ecig tincture?

Travis9226

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I don't have a link but I pretty much summed it up. I think if you Google making tinictures out of vegitible glycerine it should pop up. As for flavors there are literally hundreds. You'll have to do a little trial and error to find the one that best suits you. On the up side the flavorings are relitivly cheap so order a whole bunch.

I also forgot to mention that the 50/50 vg/pg is the same ratio the mix your own tobacco ecig places recommend.

Stay high
 

Mr. Blonde

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K.. so i'm having a lil trouble finding my ingredients... the only Propylene Glycol i can find is at farm and fleet by the gallon and it's apparently for cows, made by "Agripharm". will that work? also as far as the Vegetable Glycerin goes, can i just use 100% vegy oil, or do i actually need to look for a bottle of VG?.. whatever the hell that is
 

Mr. Blonde

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I was going to start a thread on this but thought I would throw my two since in. For an ecig tinicture is using a 50/50 mix of vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol. Making your tinicture using the 24hr method found right here on RIU. Basicly you put whatever you want to make your tinicture (bud and or trimmings) and a 50/50 mix of VG/pg to just cover your product in a slow cooker on the keep warm setting for 24 hours. Then filter using a cheese cloth and store in a dark glass bottle. You now have your master batch

This is were it gets fun. You can find flavoring found here http://www.onestopdiyshop.com/categories/DIY-Flavors/ . You then mix your flavorings using a 80-90% VG/pg to 10-20% flavorings. This mix can be made into smaller amber colored droppers. Using your master batch you can make several different flavors. This mix can be dropped directly under the tongue or put into your refillable e cig packs. Here is a good starter pack for a good price http://www.thevaporpro.com/joye-510-xl-black-electronic-cigarette-starter-kit.html

Thank you, stay high
what's warm? approximate temp?
 

Mr. Blonde

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alright cool... i got my VG and PG and of course a bunch of weed... Im ready to do this. think im gonna give the 24 hour method a try but i'm probably going to start of with a pretty small batch just in case i screw something up... so you're saying a 50/50 mix right off the bat? i was thinking about going a little heavier on the vg and then just adding pg until i get my desired viscosity because as far as i'm aware, the pc doesnt serve much part in the extraction process.. right? also thinking about putting mixture in a jar and then putting jar into pot of water on stove, just to minimize "hot-spots" and make the temp easier to control... then i suppose i'd have to take it out n shake it every so often... any thoughts?
 

Mr. Blonde

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P.S.... Think I should cap the jar, n take it out and shake it every so often.. or leave it open and stir it?

Where's Rachael Ray when I need her?
 

Mr. Blonde

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Well I'm about 4 hours into the 24hr method... I went with a 50/50 solution PG/VG (maybe favored the VG a lil). I started small like I said I would. Used about 7 grams of med grade nuggs and a pinch of kif with about 2 fluid ounces of solution... Broke bud up by hand (didn't use grinder) and mixed ingredients into an eight ounce wide-mouth Ball jar... i then filled a crock-pot/ rice cooker thingy with water and put on the "keep warm" setting (seems to keep it between 115 and 120 F)... Placed the closed jar in pot on top of an exfoliating shower sponge to reduce conduction heating. I've been taking the jar out an giving it a lil swirl every now and again. after only a couple hours i already noticed the color of the solution begin to turn a darker, browner, greener color so i think it's safe to say that this temp is certainly expediting the extraction process... think it was Travis that said it should be around 135-140ish so I'm thinking about maybe giving it something like 30 hours.... don't wanna over heat or over expose.

Have i made any major mistakes.. yet?

... try n keep y'all posted
 

smokajoe

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How goes the extract? I must know lol so eager to try this, also question would it matter if I used wet buds (fresh trimmed) or cure em up first?
 

Mr. Blonde

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So it's been about 25 hours... the mixture is significantly darker (and thicker) than it was in my last update... not quite as dark as i was expecting though.. in the past when i've made 100% glycerin based tinctures, the end solution is almost black... this kinda concerns me because i fear that i haven't utilized all of the bud yet, and i'm not very comfortable leaving it in the crock-pot (bout 117 F) for too much longer cause i don't want to "break-down" all those sweet cannabinoids... either way i'm going to start straining and filtering tonight... may keep what's left of the "solid material" and toss it in to my next batch just so i know i utilized it fully... thoughts?
 

Mr. Blonde

Member
How goes the extract? I must know lol so eager to try this, also question would it matter if I used wet buds (fresh trimmed) or cure em up first?
I think that you would have better luck with dryer nugs, but hey; I'm no master, I know nothing.... but I am a servant, and I know Something.
 

Kanivers

Active Member
So the benefits of using a little PG is it transfers flavor as well as thins out the VG which is thicker and doesn't work well with cartomizers. VG transfers no flavor. The only benefit to VG is the thicker vapor, less harsh, more natural. I'm playing with them both now so depending on how harsh I think the hit on the PG is will depend on how much I use. I played with making 10 ml of glycerin tincture today because my new e pen came in the mail and I wanted to try it out. Recipe below:

15 ml VG
5 ml PG
10 ml ever clear
2.5 g bio diesel (weed)

cooked 6 hours in triple boiler. Shook every hour. Very green liquid but low potency. Not happy. I'll wait 7 more weeks for my tincture.

How did the 24 hour come out?
 

Mr. Blonde

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pretty much got it all through the first (metal) strainer. still quite a bit of sediment in it. gonna let it drip for a bit more then give it a mash. thennnn i've got a cloth rubber banded around a glass to do the next straining... im thinking about maybe using a coffee filter for the final stage of the filtering but i don't know... this stuff is a lot thicker than coffee.... think it'll go through??... meh, we'll see if it's even necessarily
 

Mr. Blonde

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...dripping through cotton cloth. prolly going to need one more strain... thinking about using a microfiber-type pouch thingy that a pair of headphones came in, it just looks real thick to pass through a coffee filter
 

Kanivers

Active Member
Are you using sublingual or vaping

The only benefit to using PG over VG is that VG is less harsh on the hit and more natural. Other than that VG transfers no flavor and isn't great for cartomizers. PG transfers flavors and is better for vaping.

Is PG a better solvent then VG? Would a solution of mostly PG work faster? How is your potency after the 24 hour method?

I'm only a week into my 2 month method but my jar already looks dark. Not sure if my 80% PG is going to work faster.
 

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