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doublejj

doublejj

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NietzscheKeen said:
I've seen other videos of him. He proudly smokes crack, which he spends his "welfare" or whatever gov't check it is on it. There is another video of him causing problems at a baseball game and he was tasered. I don't know if I've got the right videos, but here are a few more.

Anyway, I guess it's how you look at it. Is he a victim or a loser...

[video=youtube;S3eBnpas7J0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3eBnpas7J0[/video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AedJy9tAYL4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhh_HQwaNw8
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Not everyone makes a good transition when they get back home. In his day, PTSD wasn't even talked about at the VA. There was little/no support for returning veterans, so most had to handle it themselves. Self medicating with what ever they could. Developed some bad habits & dependencies. There are lots of homeless veterans out there. I've got nothing but love for this guy, he's not hurting anyone but himself.......
 
Stillbuzzin

Stillbuzzin

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NietzscheKeen said:
I've seen other videos of him. He proudly smokes crack, which he spends his "welfare" or whatever gov't check it is on it. There is another video of him causing problems at a baseball game and he was tasered. I don't know if I've got the right videos, but here are a few more.

Anyway, I guess it's how you look at it. Is he a victim or a loser...

[video=youtube;S3eBnpas7J0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3eBnpas7J0[/video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AedJy9tAYL4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhh_HQwaNw8
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Please agree to disgree, with me on this. People come back from WAR with all kinds of problems. They each deal with it in their on way . I truly think you are a very cool person . Lets just let this go away. Thank you
 
Stillbuzzin

Stillbuzzin

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doublejj said:
I tried for years to answer that question Clayton. I guess at the time most people felt that supporting the soldiers was supporting the war. Miss-directed anger. It left me bitter for a long time....I'm still working thru a lot of it. Most people still look at us (Vietnam vets) as damaged goods, we remind them of a unpopular time....
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Bless you my friend........................
 
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Hemlock

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ClaytonBigsby said:
JJ, can you give me some insight as to why 'Nam vets were treated so poorly, and looked down on, when most of them were drafted and had no choice? I've never understood why they weren't welcomed home with open arms.
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I'll try to wade in here Double JJ
Clayton I was a young man during the Viet Nam. We all watched it on the news every night. It seemed that the media tried to paint the Military as killers of
civilians. When that could not be further from the truth. Does some of it happen in War Yes. We in the trenches don't want it to happen but you gotta remember in VN, no one really knew who the enemy was. Kids/women would walk up to troops with what looked like food and then blow up when they opened it. What would you do if that happened? I know what I would do. And it ain't pretty.
 
Stillbuzzin

Stillbuzzin

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ClaytonBigsby said:
JJ, can you give me some insight as to why 'Nam vets were treated so poorly, and looked down on, when most of them were drafted and had no choice? I've never understood why they weren't welcomed home with open arms.
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Clayton I went in the Army in 73 . No I didnt go to Nam. But I ended up helping lots of the vets coming back from Nam. I was duty driver or helper.. for them That was my job. I took them any and everywhere they needed to go or do. To this day I have never felt more sorry for any bunch of people in my life. Not only did the American people beat them up they were very hard on themselves. I stayed in a barracks with a bunch of them. Crys and screaming all night long. Found one hanging in the latrine one morning and on and on. They had no life.But the hippy movement didnt help. They preached love and PEACE and blamed the vets coming back from Nam for what happened over their.Just totally sad
 
NietzscheKeen

NietzscheKeen

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After I thought about it this weekend, I retract my comment. He's not a POS in my book, he's only hurting himself and no one else... without reason. That makes a big difference for me.
 
curious2garden

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ClaytonBigsby said:
JJ, can you give me some insight as to why 'Nam vets were treated so poorly, and looked down on, when most of them were drafted and had no choice? I've never understood why they weren't welcomed home with open arms.
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Clayton this is none of my business but I can tell you why. Because the peace movement, at that time, blamed the soldiers. If you want to hear it explained it's pretty well laid out in Buffy St. Marie's Universal Soldier. That sort of encapsulates it. It was a case of blaming the victims.
 
doublejj

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[video=youtube;xjdEk0nXoKY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjdEk0nXoKY&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
doublejj

doublejj

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[video=youtube;S9JdxujvwP8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S9JdxujvwP8[/video].....these guy's were in my old unit in Vietnam, 9th infantry......
 
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Oh I was looking for new cadence to run to and found this! Almost died laughing!
USAF for the WIN!!! My hubby proudly upholds that tradition. He tried out for the SNCO coffee mug drill team but is bitter since he was passed over......

[video=youtube;XHL0ZjgVxt0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHL0ZjgVxt0[/video]
 
doublejj

doublejj

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LOL!......Yes, I can relate.......for you curious......."She wore a yellow ribbon"....[video=youtube;yTaps4fuvB4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTaps4fuvB4&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
curious2garden

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doublejj said:
LOL!......Yes, I can relate.......for you curious......."She wore a yellow ribbon"....
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LOL too funny! Good one. I've added it to the player :) You know I've been pounding my rage into the asphalt listening to these guys. It helps to hit the bed so tired your brain has stopped. So many people forget America is what we make of it. It is a melting pot. You don't sell out, you buy in. So many people want the benefits without the purchase price.

[video=youtube;GdUNx8qPRa0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdUNx8qPRa0[/video]

No free lunch.....
 
doublejj

doublejj

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[video=youtube;r_dtRIf0rGY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_dtRIf0rGY&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
doublejj

doublejj

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US AIR FORCE PJ's..........[video=youtube;lcAnT2hcsZo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcAnT2hcsZo&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
doublejj

doublejj

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[video=youtube;SffIaglFrz4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SffIaglFrz4&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
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