Colorado gold rush.

gR33nDav3l0l said:

I don't consider growing a job. It's just so easy.

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I have a job for you this summer. When it's 95 with no rain in sight, would you please haul my water via either mountain bike or backpack?.

Of course growing is easier indoors, but that takes several years to become solid at. Any idiot can plant a seed, very few can select best phenos and clone etc.

There are simply not enough good growers to keep up with demand in Colorado, and most growers hate expansion projects.

Sunbiz1 said:

There are simply not enough good growers to keep up with demand in Colorado, and most growers hate expansion projects.

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Do people agree with this? I have no way of knowing. I always figured CO was chock-a-block with good growers. Are there a whole lot of people yearning to smoke weed but unwilling to buy it unless it's legal?

And expansion projects? That's a problem I would gladly tackle.

Sunbiz1 said:

I have a job for you this summer. When it's 95 with no rain in sight, would you please haul my water via either mountain bike or backpack?.

Of course growing is easier indoors, but that takes several years to become solid at. Any idiot can plant a seed, very few can select best phenos and clone etc.

There are simply not enough good growers to keep up with demand in Colorado, and most growers hate expansion projects.

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Lol, after working fields of corn or sugarcane, hauling some water ain't shit. You're afraid of a little physical labour? I've cleared fields with a machete.
There's people here living in the mountains that haul wood, water, supplies, etc, up hill on foot in a tropical environment. Mountain bikes lol

Just caught a news story from Denver. In the last few days it turns out that salty snack sales are up 40%, sales of new gym memberships down 50% over last year, red light and speed camera violations have dropped to nearly nothing. Kids are wandering the streets selling single rolling papers for $3. Grand Theft Auto 5 cannot be purchased at any price.

Is this the kind of world we want to live in?

gR33nDav3l0l said:

Lol, after working fields of corn or sugarcane, hauling some water ain't shit. You're afraid of a little physical labour? I've cleared fields with a machete.
There's people here living in the mountains that haul wood, water, supplies, etc, up hill on foot in a tropical environment. Mountain bikes lol

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And any idiot can do manual labor as well...the US is full of them.

Just like cooking, people *try and grow all the time. I had one recently who was convinced an HPS alone is good for vegetating plants, told him to go ahead and watch them stretch.

Point is, most that try and grow are novices or at best learning on the job. The top growers do not want to bother continually expanding just b/c Colorado decides to treat cannabis like beer. As I mentioned in the Colorado section yesterday, it will be interesting to see if the quality in that state goes down as demand goes up.

It takes about 7 years for an average person to actually master a craft anyway.
They are really going for a weed industry, as if it was wheat or corn? Volume over quality?
Around here, small farmers create these cooperatives that allows them to sell in bulk and actually compete with bigger farms, while remaining outside of the FTA. Do you think that the CO top growers would come forward and take action as a group, in order to maintain a float?

Seven work days off for my wife put me way behind on my chores. Trying to catch up. Oh, it's a job. But one that I love.

gR33nDav3l0l said:

It takes about 7 years for an average person to actually master a craft anyway.
They are really going for a weed industry, as if it was wheat or corn? Volume over quality?
Around here, small farmers create these cooperatives that allows them to sell in bulk and actually compete with bigger farms, while remaining outside of the FTA. Do you think that the CO top growers would come forward and take action as a group, in order to maintain a float?

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They should, shit they should be setting up a marijuana board here in Maine now. get it ready for when the time comes.

Even when the weed does become legal I believe the Marijuana smoker will still want quality stuff. Todays older smoker is more of a connisuer type. I just dont see phillip morris putting out a very good product AND keeping the cost low.

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That's what I'm waiting to see, a huge corp taking on the growing aspect and hiring a bunch guys with papers out their ass but no real world experience trying to grow top notch bud, then wonder why there's still a black market.

If offered would you take your knowledge and work for a company like PM?

MojoRison said:

If offered would you take your knowledge and work for a company like PM?

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In other words would I sell my soul to the devil?? Not a chance in hell.

MojoRison said:

^^^
That's what I'm waiting to see, a huge corp taking on the growing aspect and hiring a bunch guys with papers out their ass but no real world experience trying to grow top notch bud, then wonder why there's still a black market.

If offered would you take your knowledge and work for a company like PM?

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We have little to offer that could not easily be replaced with other resources. Good breeders will be the first to get the "offer you can't refuse." Most won't.

MojoRison said:

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That's what I'm waiting to see, a huge corp taking on the growing aspect and hiring a bunch guys with papers out their ass but no real world experience trying to grow top notch bud, then wonder why there's still a black market.

If offered would you take your knowledge and work for a company like PM?

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fuck no, i would sabotage anything they set up here in maine. I really want to see it in the hands of the great growers that are here already. no need for anyone else.

Unclebaldrick said:

We have little to offer that could not easily be replaced with other resources. Good breeders will be the first to get the "offer you can't refuse." Most won't.

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I see your point but I disagree to some extent, like a brewmaster or chef the seasoned grower/breeder is going to be a better fit then one who has no practical experience. I can agree that there are aspects to the trade that almost anyone can do but it does take on hand real life experience with the plant to fully understand what type of product the public is going to want and or need...you won't find that in a text book on botany.

As a comparison to other substances, like beer or wine the products offered by the large corps have a standard but if one is willing they can often find a superior quality product which is produced by a local.


To be totally honest, all this is mute to me because I refuse to change my life and I will grow my own medicine/weed/ganja/pot/herb. Yes it would be cool to have more choice in flavours but at what cost? They {yes they} already are taking a big enough chunk outta my ass as is, I'm not willing to hand over this aspect of control.

i'm gonna sue my state as they are preventing me from profiting in this greenboom.

Sunbiz1 said:

And any idiot can do manual labor as well...the US is full of them.

Just like cooking, people *try and grow all the time. I had one recently who was convinced an HPS alone is good for vegetating plants, told him to go ahead and watch them stretch.

Point is, most that try and grow are novices or at best learning on the job. The top growers do not want to bother continually expanding just b/c Colorado decides to treat cannabis like beer. As I mentioned in the Colorado section yesterday, it will be interesting to see if the quality in that state goes down as demand goes up.

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I always find it odd that with all the talk about quality there is no real lab analysis that set standards such as THC content etc. So when you figure it out let us know. Judging how good one particular bud is compared to another vary quit a bite between the people smoking it. Everyone makes out growing marijuana as some sort of secret black art passed down thru generations. If you grew up in the suburbs with a video game controller in your hands growing may seem like a big deal seeing that the only thing you know is the grass gets long each week and the old man bitches until you cut it and if you forget to water the house plants while mom and dad are on vacation they die. On the other hand if you were raised growing corn, soybeans and hay then you have a pretty good handle on how to bring out the best that the particular genetics have to offer. Marijuana included. Never put people down about their growing skills. Some of the best plants I have seen come from the stupid old hillbillies who also got 200 bushels per acre of corn.

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I see your point but I disagree to some extent, like a brewmaster or chef the seasoned grower/breeder is going to be a better fit then one who has no practical experience. I can agree that there are aspects to the trade that almost anyone can do but it does take on hand real life experience with the plant to fully understand what type of product the public is going to want and or need...you won't find that in a text book on botany.

As a comparison to other substances, like beer or wine the products offered by the large corps have a standard but if one is willing they can often find a superior quality product which is produced by a local.


To be totally honest, all this is mute to me because I refuse to change my life and I will grow my own medicine/weed/ganja/pot/herb. Yes it would be cool to have more choice in flavours but at what cost? They {yes they} already are taking a big enough chunk outta my ass as is, I'm not willing to hand over this aspect of control.

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Agreed. I should have said that there are a lot of us. Way more in number than good home brewers in the 80s.