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OGrasta

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Best of luck with this. Lots of variables but in all honesty I would suggest using a rich soil mix and tinker with coco slowly until you get it figured out and dialed in.


I couldn't agree more. I have great results using a well balanced mix with a focus on the soil food web. You want large populations of healthy microbes to grow huge plants of the super chron. Coco doesn't support a soil ecosystem. Pro Mix Hp, worm castings, perlite, and silica based trace minerals is the way to roll. Add some compost tea and organic fert and boom! The ladies will love ya and other growers will be wondering how you did it.
 

Systema

Active Member
Hey i would like to know if anyone had ever use '' plantbest miracle mulch '' before and if anyone had any tips to give to me on that. It's my first time with coco medium so i don't really know how it works for the watering and the nutrients.. normaly i gros organic but can i grow organic too with coco??

This is what i buyed today http://www.amazon.com/Planters-Pride-RZP3056-8-8-Pound-Miracle/dp/B003UHVVX0 i've read somewhere that you need to water 1 or maybe 2 times a day and i read somewhere else that you can water like normal soil but i just want to know what i should do .. and how does it work with the seedling ... can i take the seed and put it right in it when the seedling start or i have to put it in another medium then transplant it in the coco??

Well if you ever talked about that in this thread please redirect me on the page because i've take the time to go over some page but seriously ... 337pg is A LOT lolll


Thanks!
 

tehgenoc1de

Active Member
What do you need the mulch for?

Yes, you can grow organically in coco.
Yes, you can plant the seed directly in the coco.
You water coco with nutrients everytime, never just water, at 5.8 ph.
 

KT420

Active Member
Are most of you running 100% coco? i'm on my first coco grow and have some plants in 16oz beer cups ready to be transplanted. I was suprised how soggy the coco stayed in the cops, I thought it would hold more air than it does. i'm about to transplant to 3gal smartpots and wondering if I should mix in some perlite? The bulk of my experience before this is 100% perlite hempy buckets, and that's super airy and gives explosive growth. I used GH Lucas before but now that I'm in coco I'm using Canna coco a+b 10ml per gal of each in a 1/2 n 1/2 RO / tap water mix.
 

younggungrower

Active Member
Im running with 80% coco and 20% perlite. It seems to be working just fine. Sadly i just got hit with calcium deficiancy right before i was going to flower. Lets hope coco is forgiving enough to revive my plant within the next week or so.
 

tehgenoc1de

Active Member
Are most of you running 100% coco? i'm on my first coco grow and have some plants in 16oz beer cups ready to be transplanted. I was suprised how soggy the coco stayed in the cops, I thought it would hold more air than it does. i'm about to transplant to 3gal smartpots and wondering if I should mix in some perlite? The bulk of my experience before this is 100% perlite hempy buckets, and that's super airy and gives explosive growth. I used GH Lucas before but now that I'm in coco I'm using Canna coco a+b 10ml per gal of each in a 1/2 n 1/2 RO / tap water mix.
I run 100% coco in Airpots. The roots take up all of the medium when done so there's no room for perlite. I will be switching a couple crops over to fabric pots soon and I will mix about 20-30% perlite in then.

Im running with 80% coco and 20% perlite. It seems to be working just fine. Sadly i just got hit with calcium deficiancy right before i was going to flower. Lets hope coco is forgiving enough to revive my plant within the next week or so.
If you have a calcium problem it's only gonna get worse with the coco. You can use Cal mag for a couple weeks into flower. I'd try to get that fixed.

Anyone think it could be a good idea to mix 20% standard soil with 70%coco mix and 10%perlite ??
I've seen it done but it was with more soil than coco, like 70% soil, 20% coco, 10% perlite. I personally wouldn't mix soil with coco, the coco is excellent on its own.
 

Lucius Vorenus

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Just switched to Coir only...gonna give coir a try this time with no perlite. Been running coir with 30% perlite and have to water every 3 days. Trying to get to 4 days with just coir. Hopefully that works.
 

Systema

Active Member
I've seen it done but it was with more soil than coco, like 70% soil, 20% coco, 10% perlite. I personally wouldn't mix soil with coco, the coco is excellent on its own.
Ya sure the coco is pretty good on its own but it is a little bit more hydro grow then soil grow ... And with a soil medium you have more place for error then hydro. Because i know that coco is a LOT better for the rooting system but i dont want to go hydro . So i am pretty sure that if i mix coco with my soil it will gain space for rooting and hold water but i will not have to water twice a day to keep it moist..
 

tehgenoc1de

Active Member
Coco is pretty damn forgiving. You will not have water twice a day. Coco by itself stays wet for a long time, that's why you mix some perlite in.

I'm not trying to persuade you against your idea, just stating that I prefer to run straight coco in airpots or coco/perlite in smart pots.
 

Systema

Active Member
Coco is pretty damn forgiving. You will not have water twice a day. Coco by itself stays wet for a long time, that's why you mix some perlite in.

I'm not trying to persuade you against your idea, just stating that I prefer to run straight coco in airpots or coco/perlite in smart pots.
Sure i understand that! The opinion is just so diffrent from one person to another and i am not a well skilled grower so i want to have a grow medium that can forgive some mistake i can do. It's gonna be my second growth and i want to try it out . But i really want to get every chance i can get.
 

BBB1974

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Sure i understand that! The opinion is just so diffrent from one person to another and i am not a well skilled grower so i want to have a grow medium that can forgive some mistake i can do. It's gonna be my second growth and i want to try it out . But i really want to get every chance i can get.
Then go with 100% coco. This is my first grow and coco is probably the most forgiving medium and that's why I'm doing it ;) I'm planting my seed directly into too. Running Dutch Passion Blueberry & Freddy's Best.

I have a layer of hydroton at the bottom of my 3 gal airpots too. You water with your nutes everytime and as long as you have 10-20% runoff you really don't have to worry about nutrient build up. If you use Canna Coco nutes, the schedule is a piece of cake to follow (available to create online)
 

Trousers

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I am running 100% coco in 5 gallon airpots and bottom feeding.
I do not see any disadvantage of bottom feeding so far.
 

Trousers

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I feed every time. I never found a reason to not feed with coco.
Before switching to bottom feeding I would just water until the tray was full.
That is a flush right there.
 

Lucius Vorenus

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I feed every time. I never found a reason to not feed with coco.
Before switching to bottom feeding I would just water until the tray was full.
That is a flush right there.
which is fine i think if you flush regularly. i find the plants get locked up after about 4 weeks of straight feeding.
 
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