gr865
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What size tent are you using and are you using just one vertical 600?
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noob12345
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Its a stone walled room 3m long by about 1.5 wide (guestimation) and I have 2x600hps 1 is dimmable but i only have the first 4 plants in atm as i was waiting for a delivery of seeds so im just running the 1.
gr865
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So, if my conversion is correct it is about 11 x 5 feet. Wow, nice room. Would be nice to have that size room, can you divide it into to areas, say a 5' x 4' veg room and a 5 x 6 flower room?
Do you bind your vertical grows or let them free stand.
If you look at my 4 x 4 tent verticals in my GR's 17'/18' Winter/Spring Stacked 315W 5 Plant Vertical with Screens, Barneys Farm LSD grow you will see how I bind to screens.
iliketolearn
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Dude sick set up what is that an UNDER CURRENT?
noob12345
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Yes dude, im still getting used to it, after getting several def issues I decided to resort back to 50:50 tapwater/RO and ditch the cal-mag and they are going really well again! I now believe GH trio should not be used with pure RO as there is something missing.
noob12345
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I let them free stand last time but I have been training and supercropping toward the middle this time so I could try and get up some kind of netting!
iliketolearn
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I set up a 1000 watt vertical recirculating SIPS grow. (WHOA! That was alot to "say") Ballast is switchable. My room is 8ft long by 4.5ft wide by 6-8ft tallroof pitch). The is not insulated or sealed.(I will insulate the room before the next grow. $$) I have an exhaust fan that will cycle the air about every two minutes. My substrate is in 3 gallon fabric pots of my own organic soil mix of COCO, PERLITE, EWC, HYDROTON, KELP MEAL, ALFALFA MEAL, FISH BONE MEAL, ROCK PHOSPHATE. The fabric pots are sitting on top of 2 inches of hydroton in netted plastic pots. The pots are sitting in a tray in 1 inch deep water. I have 3 pots in each tray(1 clone died tho). The water in the trays is recirculating with a 5 gallon control reservoir. I'm in my 4th week (end of 4th week is Nov 13th) 5/6 dispensary clones are still alive and about 1 ft tall. 2 Alien OG, 3 Venom OG. I'll try to upload a video, if not pics.
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iliketolearn
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Here's the outside area of my grow. A 7 ft shelf next to the grow room. The temp controller with the temperature probe taped with plant tape to a stem. There is a 5 gallon control bucket. 1/2" PVC pipe fills the trays to a 1 inch water level then out a 3/4" PVC drain back to reservoir, about a 1 ft waterfall.
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iliketolearn
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So I've grown in soil before with pretty good results. This is my first real attempt at "hydro". I like the idea that it's a hybridization of soil/hydro. Heard so many good things about this method. I dont know what or if recirculating the water does anything for me. Also, I have room to add the same trays and plants on the other side of that same room. I have another 1000 watt already wired and plumbed, just need the plants. My temps stay between 70ish at (plant) nighttime and below 80ish daytime. Humidity is between 40-60. 
LoL. I know,. I shouldn't hang the socket like this but it's not plugged in and I don't have anywhere to put it.
LoL. I know,. I shouldn't hang the socket like this but it's not plugged in and I don't have anywhere to put it.
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iliketolearn
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Here's a pic of two of the clones and roots. I will take better pics when, this light is a pain for pics. 24 days since I got them from the dispensary.
jigfresh
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@noob12345 I found my plants liked my tap water better than RO. I did have pretty decent water from the tap though, I know some people have super high ppms from their tap. It also seemed to me that something was missing when using RO.
Another thing I did that made my plants happier was let the PH fluctuate. My first few grows I was super strict about keeping the ph at 5.7, then I got a little lazy and let it swing from like 5.4 to 6.1... something like that. The plants seemed to enjoy that as well. I figured it allowed different nutrients to be available as it swung from low to high.
Now I'm in mostly outdoor soil. So much easier, but damn do I miss the insane, explosive growth from my hydro setups.
Another thing I did that made my plants happier was let the PH fluctuate. My first few grows I was super strict about keeping the ph at 5.7, then I got a little lazy and let it swing from like 5.4 to 6.1... something like that. The plants seemed to enjoy that as well. I figured it allowed different nutrients to be available as it swung from low to high.
Now I'm in mostly outdoor soil. So much easier, but damn do I miss the insane, explosive growth from my hydro setups.
iliketolearn
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So i added two more trays and will soon add 7 more plants, which will equate to a TOTAL of 12 plants, 6 on each side. 3 in each tray. There will be 2 1000 watt lights, 6 plants around each light. A
iliketolearn
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So first off, I ran my first grow and wasn't happy with the results so I haven't posted pics. I believe my fabric pots were WAY too small for the grow. I have since moved to 5 gallon fabric pots. Same set up...
2 1000 watt HID side by side. 5ft by 9ft shed.
I have 4 trays, 3 plants in each tray. 12 total plants. ( Legal limit in my state 6 plants / 21+ Adult. We are 2 adults)
I have the trays recirculating about 1-2 inches of water with 5 gallon control Rez outside of the shed.( Will soon add a float valve and a 30 gallon reservoir.)
The plants are in ROOTS ORGANICS OUTDOOR SOIL(I forgot the specific name). I mixed the soil with about 30-40% perlite).
The plants bottom feed from a recirculating trough.
This newest grow I started with 8 Cherry Punch, and 4 Garlic Cocktail. Purchased clones from a local dispensary.
I started them outside in 4 inch netted pots. 1 of the CHERRY PUNCH clones died. Then transferred them to 5 gallon fabric pots with the SOIL MIX.
VEGGED for almost 6 weeks.(room wasn't ready for flowering. The Garlic Cocktail got too tall where as the Purple Punch was just right. IMO).
When I transferred them I didn't have the water recirculating at first. Ran into some minor problems but everything is recirculating fine now.
BTW I'm using water from my outdoor faucet.
Plants started their 5th week of flowering today 5/14/2020.
I plan on adding a CO2 BAG in a week.
CURRENTLY my temps get no more than 85 degrees F with both 1000 watt HIDs going. It's been cool here.
I need some advice. I run both HIDs at the same time 1 metal halide + 1 high pressure sodium. Of course I've done my research and what not. Most of the things I've read say to use HPS during flower, with a small amount of MH. My question is should I switch to both HPS?
2 1000 watt HID side by side. 5ft by 9ft shed.
I have 4 trays, 3 plants in each tray. 12 total plants. ( Legal limit in my state 6 plants / 21+ Adult. We are 2 adults)
I have the trays recirculating about 1-2 inches of water with 5 gallon control Rez outside of the shed.( Will soon add a float valve and a 30 gallon reservoir.)
The plants are in ROOTS ORGANICS OUTDOOR SOIL(I forgot the specific name). I mixed the soil with about 30-40% perlite).
The plants bottom feed from a recirculating trough.
This newest grow I started with 8 Cherry Punch, and 4 Garlic Cocktail. Purchased clones from a local dispensary.
I started them outside in 4 inch netted pots. 1 of the CHERRY PUNCH clones died. Then transferred them to 5 gallon fabric pots with the SOIL MIX.
VEGGED for almost 6 weeks.(room wasn't ready for flowering. The Garlic Cocktail got too tall where as the Purple Punch was just right. IMO).
When I transferred them I didn't have the water recirculating at first. Ran into some minor problems but everything is recirculating fine now.
BTW I'm using water from my outdoor faucet.
Plants started their 5th week of flowering today 5/14/2020.
I plan on adding a CO2 BAG in a week.
CURRENTLY my temps get no more than 85 degrees F with both 1000 watt HIDs going. It's been cool here.
I need some advice. I run both HIDs at the same time 1 metal halide + 1 high pressure sodium. Of course I've done my research and what not. Most of the things I've read say to use HPS during flower, with a small amount of MH. My question is should I switch to both HPS?
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rob333
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Jesus everything so dirty
rob333
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How to fail hard with hydro don't clean ya shit
iliketolearn
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Is this hydro? Did you even read the post? I'm using soil...
Hawg Wild
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Yes. It's hydro, which doesn't really make any sense with soil. A lot of wasted energy and effort, in my opinion. If you want to run soil, you're doing a lot of really unnecessary stuff and not really using soil the way it works best. If you want to run hydro with all the recirculating feed and all that mess, ditch the soil and grow bags and talk to some experienced hydro growers about choice of medium. I'm a living soil guy, so I'm not up on all that, but I think most are using coco/perlite mix nowadays. You're basically doing subirrigated planters with a lot of extra steps.
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iliketolearn
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First off.
Does anybody have a suggestion on the question I asked?
Second,
what extra steps? I'm running sub irrigation planters that recircuIate so that I don't have to sit there and guess if my water levels are right. Just have a pump on a timer that turns on twice a day. Fills the trays to the exact water level i need.
Of course thre are more steps here because I'm trying to automate my grow.
I just added a float valve and 30 gallon reservoir so now I only fill that 30 gallon reservoir.
Essentially I could put my plants into flower and never go in the room until I'm ready to check for harvest Time.
Extra work, no.
More work now, to do less later, yes.
BTW
The very definition of Hydroponics specifically removes soil from plant growing.
ILL
Does anybody have a suggestion on the question I asked?
Second,
what extra steps? I'm running sub irrigation planters that recircuIate so that I don't have to sit there and guess if my water levels are right. Just have a pump on a timer that turns on twice a day. Fills the trays to the exact water level i need.
Of course thre are more steps here because I'm trying to automate my grow.
I just added a float valve and 30 gallon reservoir so now I only fill that 30 gallon reservoir.
Essentially I could put my plants into flower and never go in the room until I'm ready to check for harvest Time.
Extra work, no.
More work now, to do less later, yes.
BTW
The very definition of Hydroponics specifically removes soil from plant growing.
ILL
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