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mcpurple

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no sir. im on the west coast about 100 miles from the coast. southern oregon to be exact.
i will still check out the thread though
 

sso

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I posted this in another forum earlier, but I think it pertains to everyone, everywhere. Call it a 'nothing new rant.' :peace:

'Marijuana will be legal once the PEOPLE decide it should be legal. There's not enough support for it, given the excessive amount of propaganda that's pitched to the entire country, and all. Many folks think it's just the anti drug people who are trying to keep it illegal-- it's not. Look at big lumber companies, and you'll find they support anti marijuana campaigns in a major way. Why? Because they'd have some serious competition on their hands if hemp were legalized. But most people don't know that, and in the middle of this god forsaken country, people listen to the asinine stories that are used to 'keep kids off drugs.' The change is up to us... we just don't realize it, and THINK that it lies in the hands of the government. WE are the government. The people lead! I heard a quote yesterday that summed it up perfectly in a nut shell: Everybody is having an American revolution, and America is late to the party.

Make your voices heard. Don't stand down for your rights. And let's overgrow the government.'
the trouble is that, many people are simply used to listen to the rich penguins and fat suits.
potheads are losers, you dont listen to that, plus all that smoke damaged their head, everyone knows that.
rich people are smart, everyone knows that. junkies are dangerous. we gotta watch out for the children, save the children.

even though the latest generations, as is their wont, have become smarter and wised up some.
we are still talking about over 50 years of propaganda from just about every direction.
even if not only from the suits, then too from tv, movies and even as far as comics.

we´ve been the badguystupidlosers for close to 100 years. someone to avoid. our most vivid image has been through cheech and chong, funny, but not something to endear us to the mostly "money and image is all" crowd.

an example, grandma knows i smoke and why (bipolar) 14 years of tried to convince her, nope, still all potsmokers should be jailed, she angry retorted the other day, still worries and thinks i should go to rehab.

and she is a fairly "normal" case. in with her crowd and in with the politics.

knowing her and many others like that, i think its mostly an ingrown fear of not fitting in, the powers that be, say it is so and most everyone "normal" does so as well(that fits into the majorities idea of "normal)

selfpreservation instinct to some degree, its like the bully at school,people either join in or do nothing, afraid for their safety and wanting to fit in.
the thing about social animals, if you dont fit in, you are dead. (or at least quite miserable)

so, basically the reason, is that people are stupid unelvoved halfmonkeys.
operation out of fear and cunning or guile not out of true intelligence.
heart without a brain or brain without a heart. (semievolved)

more and more people have become more advanced though and thats why mj is heading towards freedom.
but the halfmonkeys wont listen till its socially acceptable.
(thats why they so readily embrace alcohol,despite its many dangers and healthrisks, its traditional, socially acceptable)
(choosing something worse for you, just to fit in, is nothing new, see primitive people and their "rites of manhood" whether its in the jungle or in a college dorm, its nothing new, but the idea is ridiculous if you have half a brain)
(its like mixing blood to become brothers, appealing to a kid or halfmonkey, but to anyone with a half a brain, its fairly obvious we allready all are brothers and sisters and dont really need that stupid shit (it hurts to cut and plus there are some diseases ya know lol)
 

ENDLSCYCLE

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People have their vices.....it's funny when you find out someone is a toker and you had no clue......lots of people that you wouldn't even think to smoke the dank...or mexi brick....LOL
 

Dropastone

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Got a question for guys and gals on the 600. I've been doing some research on the best/fastest way to raise my soils pH. I've read wood ash dose a better job than lime if you want fast results but adding lime to your soil works just as good as wood ash but with slower results. Well I'm looking for fast results and I'm considering mixing a tablespoon or 2 per gallon in with my nutes or should I just mix it with plain water. Or should I just forget about the ash and lime and just use pH up and raise my nutes around 7.5 - 8 next time I water. I'm new to soil and I aint got it all figured out yet so I"m in need of some advice. I've been experiencing some deficiencies and I narrowed it down to low pH levels in my soil. I've never checked the runoff before until tonight and it's like 5.1 and that just seems way to low me and I know that's probably not the best way to accurately check it. I read about all these pH soil testers that aint worth a crap either so I never bought one. Well to sum it up, if anybody has some good advice they want to throw my way, it would be greatly appreciated.

Peace 600
 

DoobieBrother

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Got a question for guys and gals on the 600. I've been doing some research on the best/fastest way to raise my soils pH. I've read wood ash dose a better job than lime if you want fast results but adding lime to your soil works just as good as wood ash but with slower results. Well I'm looking for fast results and I'm considering mixing a tablespoon or 2 per gallon in with my nutes or should I just mix it with plain water. Or should I just forget about the ash and lime and just use pH up and raise my nutes around 7.5 - 8 next time I water. I'm new to soil and I aint got it all figured out yet so I"m in need of some advice. I've been experiencing some deficiencies and I narrowed it down to low pH levels in my soil. I've never checked the runoff before until tonight and it's like 5.1 and that just seems way to low me and I know that's probably not the best way to accurately check it. I read about all these pH soil testers that aint worth a crap either so I never bought one. Well to sum it up, if anybody has some good advice they want to throw my way, it would be greatly appreciated.

Peace 600
When I was a kid and helping my parents tend their gardens, my dad would add ash for a quick fix to PH problems (too acidic).
But it's best to mix in the dolomitic lime into the soil before planting as it helps to maintain a more constant PH level throughout the grow cycle.
You can add it later to the soil's surface, but it won't do as well since it takes time for it to break down and start to work.
I don't think adding it to water during feeding will work since it takes time for water to break down the limestone. But I could be wrong.
 

DST

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I'm with Doobie on this, I think the lime should be tilled into the soil prior to planting. Any type of bark or wood will increase the ph of your soil as they leach out solubal substances into the substrate. I can't exactly remember but someone was telling me they chopped a tree down and thought they'd spread it through their soil...wrong, ruined their veg crop through high ph. What is your medium, most purchased soils have a decent ph range to work with so I am surprised you are suffering low ph. Would be interesting to see both methods tried and see the results. Goo dluck whatever you decide Dropa! Keep us posted please.

DST

Have a good Friday folks!!!
 

DoobieBrother

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I'm still bummed about GnomeGrown, but was in my grow box tonight and noticed well-defined female pre-flowers on the largest of the three plants.
The other two plants aren't quite as big as the first one, so should only be a day or two before they show gender.
They're now 17-inches tall, so only about 3 more days until I put them into flowering mode.
Stay strong GnomeGrown!
Peace!
bongsmilie
 

Dropastone

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When I was a kid and helping my parents tend their gardens, my dad would add ash for a quick fix to PH problems (too acidic).
But it's best to mix in the dolomitic lime into the soil before planting as it helps to maintain a more constant PH level throughout the grow cycle.
You can add it later to the soil's surface, but it won't do as well since it takes time for it to break down and start to work.
I don't think adding it to water during feeding will work since it takes time for water to break down the limestone. But I could be wrong.
I'm with Doobie on this, I think the lime should be tilled into the soil prior to planting. Any type of bark or wood will increase the ph of your soil as they leach out solubal substances into the substrate. I can't exactly remember but someone was telling me they chopped a tree down and thought they'd spread it through their soil...wrong, ruined their veg crop through high ph. What is your medium, most purchased soils have a decent ph range to work with so I am surprised you are suffering low ph. Would be interesting to see both methods tried and see the results. Goo dluck whatever you decide Dropa! Keep us posted please.

DST

Have a good Friday folks!!!
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I'm using fox farm ocean forest nothing added. I think it's a little late in the game to deal with this issue properly. It's definitely a lesson learned and next time I'll amend the soil with a some dolomite lime to help stabilize the pH. Thing is I only got about 2.5 weeks left till harvest, so for now I think I'll just try and raise the pH of my nute solution to about 7.5 - 8 on my next watering to see if that will bring it up some. They still look good, just a few crispy leaves is all. I just want em to be all that they can be, especially in the last weeks of flowering.

Pics) The one on the left I'm not to happy about, you can definitely tell the difference between the two pheno's The one on the left has real airy buds vs the one on the right that are real dense. I got 10 clones 5 from each pheno ready to go for round 3 but I think I'm gonna scrap the clones from the plant on the left or just give em all away. I don't know, maybe I'll try a cpl of em and see what happens.



















Peace 600
 
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Dropastone

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I've been on attitude this morning trying to get in on there new birthday promotion and I've been kicked off the site like 5 times trying to order some G13 labs, pineapple express or killer bud. Looks like I"m gonna have to wait it out. I'll be a first time customer at the tude. Anybody got any good recommendations for a high yielding Indica or mostly Indica strain. I'm looking for something that really packs a punch.

Wish me luck, I have a feeling there gonna be jammed up for a while.

Peace 600
 

Heads Up

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Dstone, I'm not sure about raising your nute levels to an 8 on the ph scale. I'm thinking with that high of a ph you may just keep locking out the nutes you are giving them. Personally I wouldn't go over 7 to insure the plants can use what you are giving them. If you only have a few weeks left, I'm not even sure you could raise the ph of your soil enough to matter at this point. That's my two cents on the subject and as usual, it is only my humble opinion.
 

Heads Up

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So my plants are entering the fifth week of veg. I gave them a strong dose of nutes this morning, almost 1200 ppm. This will be their last feeding of grow nutes before I switch them to flower next weekend. I snapped the main stem of my NY47, I thought it was my blackjack but it isn't. The blackjack is showing pistils in veg so I know she's a female. Now I only have the NY47 and the extrema to go and I think the extrema is also a female. I see preflowers and they have no stalk on them like the males do, nice and snug against the stem they are. I'm going back to bed, I feel like crap. No work for me today.

Peace
 

ENDLSCYCLE

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I'm with headsup on the raising of nutes to 8...the best PH for soil is between 6.0-6.5(I water at 6.3,right in the middle)..my question is, what is the PH of nute mix you currently feed with????? That's probably where the problem started if you were feeding too low....and Fox Farm OF always needs about a cup,cup and a half of lime per 5gal when mixing.....and use Dolamite lime....it is a finer lime and breaks down into the soil faster.
 

Shwagbag

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Yeah, I too use FFOF and had acidic soil problems my last flower cycle. This time I used FFOF with 20% perlite and about 1/2 cup of dolomite lime per 3 gallon pot at transplant like endlscycle suggested. Probably should have added more too. A member of this forum suggested some "fast acting lime" to move my PH in a hurry when I need to. I have not tried it yet, but it is on hand. I would also probably feed with higher PH water and get plenty of runoff... I would add some lime to the top of the soil before doing so.

I'm thinking of switching from FFOF after this one. I think I had better results with Happy Frog. I'm hearing good things about root organics too. Either that or using a combo of light warrior, FFOF and perlite to make it less hot.

Anyways, good luck.
 

DST

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the NY47 are fem's from Sweet Seeds.

So my plants are entering the fifth week of veg. I gave them a strong dose of nutes this morning, almost 1200 ppm. This will be their last feeding of grow nutes before I switch them to flower next weekend. I snapped the main stem of my NY47, I thought it was my blackjack but it isn't. The blackjack is showing pistils in veg so I know she's a female. Now I only have the NY47 and the extrema to go and I think the extrema is also a female. I see preflowers and they have no stalk on them like the males do, nice and snug against the stem they are. I'm going back to bed, I feel like crap. No work for me today.

Peace
 

dr green dre

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This page doesnt stop growing !! To much to catch up on.. I been busy,sick & sidetracked for a while but ive manged to get a little something back on. Dont know how long ago everyones dogs finished but one of mine died young. Got another on in the room now in flower. still got the cheese added blue cheese aswell and ak47 ,most Hydro and 2 soil pots.
Started a journal so feel free to take look and comment.
Layout might change soon as i got a few problem plants that look like they have to go and temps are so low im might try and hang a light vertical with the shade (got that off whodat) i think theres space for it.
Anyway heres a few snaps ,not the best but its ipod cam proper pics by mon.
there 4wks in now i only vegged for 2 weeks this time round .:leaf:
The set ups explained more in the link ..

DGD

edit: it looks like my D'og wants to grow 2tops without being topped its the 4th pic
 
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