Club 600

duchieman said:

Ok Doobie, I think we better simmer down the Rush talk. I keep flashing to scenes from I Love You Man. Slappa da bass mon!

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You mean "RIU" doesn't stand for "Rush It Up"!?
I'll sue, I tell you, I'll sue!!!

Hey smokebro. Looks like your good to go. Were you growing under something else before or is this your first crack?

DoobieBrother said:

You mean "RIU" doesn't stand for "Rush It Up"!?
I'll sue, I tell you, I'll sue!!!

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No, you must have misunderstood. I'm telling you though, if we keep it up these guys will be telling us to get our own thread.

Yeah, you're probably right, duchie.
(I'm feeling like such a Rush nerd right now )

Hey smokebros:
Nice setup!
Looking forward to seeing those digilux bulbs in action, so I hope you'll post lots of pics/vids as your grow progresses.
Peace!

The owner of the shop I go to said this bulb would work great in either magnetic or digital. I have a Sunmaster also in the other tent and am now using a Growbright MH conversion in the veg room.

I'm really interested in trying out those Sunpulse MH bulbs so I'm leaning that way a little right now. Thinking I'd then have a Hortilux Eye Super HPS in one hood, A Sunmaster Super HPS in another and the other two would have the Sunpulse MH bulbs in 3K. I could then see for myself how they all compare.
I'm not set on anything yet though.

Dezracer said:

The owner of the shop I go to said this bulb would work great in either magnetic or digital. I have a Sunmaster also in the other tent and am now using a Growbright MH conversion in the veg room.

I'm really interested in trying out those Sunpulse MH bulbs so I'm leaning that way a little right now. Thinking I'd then have a Hortilux Eye Super HPS in one hood, A Sunmaster Super HPS in another and the other two would have the Sunpulse MH bulbs in 3K. I could then see for myself how they all compare.
I'm not set on anything yet though.

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Yeah, while I've had good luck so far with the Hortilux & SunMaster bulbs, I'm keenly interested in seeing how other bulbs do, especially the new breed of digital-ready bulbs.

andrewcovetsall said:

@Budmasterflash Show pics of your setup if you wouldnt mind. im interested in your hydro system. just a out side shot?

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This is my ress with drain and air manifold

Water/Nutes are pumped and Aerated via 365 GPH pump and adjustable fish tank air pump

Water /nutes go to 1/2 inch PVC

1/2 inch PVC goes through the 4 inch PVC

and connects to a 90 and extension to keep aeration levels up

Water /Nutes and O2 flow through the 4 inch PVC feeding the girls

fluids flow back to the res out the drain tube"right" and water level/overflow tube "left"


here is a link to the parts list "IMO" My system is a combination of...

Just gotta love things that are clean and simple. Nice job putting that together and stuff, looks cool.

Back on the bulb topic, I have priced out buying two more 600 ballast/bulb setups with Hortilux Eye bulbs and priced out buying the Sunpulse Splitter and two Sunpulse MH bulbs in 3K. If I buy two more 600s I'll sell my two 1000s to get them and can sell the 1000w ballasts, two bulbs and one hood for around $350. Two more 600w ballasts with two Eye bulbs will cost around $500 with tax (new) so I'd be coming out of pocket about $150. If I buy the splitter and two MH bulbs they'll cost $300 shipped so if I sell one 1000w ballast, bulb and hood for $200, I'd be out of pocket about $100.

I guess it will come down to which bulbs I want to run since $50 won't make much of a difference in anything. I've got one ballast and bulb up on Craigslist and Ebay right now but if I were to keep a 1000 and get the splitter, I'm not sure which ballast I want to keep. I have a Harvest Pro switchable from Sunlight Supply and a GLobal Greenhouse magnetic. I've been told by a few people that these GG magnetics will run forever and are bulletproof but have also heard the Harvest Pro series from SS are good too. I don't forese any use for the MH option on the SS ballast but it is quieter than the GG ballast and the SS ballast is new whereas the GG I have no idea how old it is. I can only say it looks almost new and works but don't know the history of it.

what are the thought's of the peeps tuned in tonight to the 600?

I would spend the little extra and have all new gear/tec for sure.
pimp that shit my man and give your girls what they love." SUN "

Since i have to cut sooner then i thought its time for project "Mastercraft Mom box" lol
perfect timing cause it was on sale lol

Budmasterflash said:

Since i have to cut sooner then i thought its time for project "Mastercraft Mom box" lol
perfect timing cause it was on sale lol
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Nice!
Those pulse start MH bulbs are supposed to be really good and I'm just not convinced the Eye bulbs are really any better than some other bulbs out there that are less expensive like the Sunmaster Super HPs I'm running that I can get for just over half of the Hortilux. I war running all digital 600s and two magnetic 1000s but just had a digi go out on me and picked up a SS 600w mag to replace it in a pinch. I'm trying to get the digi covered under warranty but so far no luck.

Whe you read the specs on bulbs there doesn't appear to be any advantage of running the Hortilux over some others being that they claim the same color spread and lumen output. There are definitely some inferior bulbs out there when you look at lumens and color range so I'm not saying they aren't any better than any other bulbs. I just see similar claims and specs on other bulbs that are less expensive and those pulse start MH bulbs are actually more expensive than the EYE bulbs. I would just save about $50 because the splitter is less than a second ballast.

I have always used the cheaper bulbs "Sunmaster" and when I used my 400W hortilux bulb I really didnt see much of a diff in crop size and the Sunmaster lasted longer lol

A short clip of me transplanting my third clone:
(*wife was sleeping in the next room, so narrative was quiet and hardly audible, so added titles.)

[video=youtube;3DE2AmqIT0M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DE2AmqIT0M[/video]

1badmasonman said:

She may make it Headsup. Ive had a few snaps happen this grow and mine all mended ok but slowed that branches growth down a bunch. Best of luck ole pal.

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I'm hoping it heals, if not, it will have a few main colas instead of one.

duchieman said:

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I've done it twice now with my widows and I splinted them together and kept spraying the joint, and I was 90 percent on both as well, and they didn't even hiccup. Last shot is side by side with her sister. She was tied down just like her but because of the break I had to let her loose.

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I'll give this a few days and if I see no improvement I'll remove the top. She doesn't look good, as you can tell the top is wilting. The red cup is a killing field, she has been a slow one from the beginning. I think I have the cure, next week, she's going outside. Let's see what happens nine months from now? Flori-duh ain't exactly the equator but I'm interested to see what a sativa dominant plant will do outdoors. My crazy in the head vietnam vet buddy will be gifted this plant. I'll help him take clones so he can have more than one going...after they are sufficiently accustomed to being outdoors.

Smokebros, you can take this with a grain of salt it's just a suggestion. Save yourself some money and get some 6500k cfl's. You don't need that big light for seedlings. Everything else looks good.

@Budmaster Yo, i really like the spouts where the plants sit. did you get that idea somewhere or come up with it? i just trashed my old system like that. i cut hole directly in the 4 inch pvc and the cubes sat right in the pipe. now i got gutter with smaller net pots. your setup is awesome! are your pumps on timer?

just bored so heres a pic of my nugget and my rootball.

del66666 said:

did you cross it? coco or compost?

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No it's a Mr West, and was in a bit of both, old composted coco and new coco.

andrewcovetsall said:

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thanks for being bored, lol.

Late Friday night I re-potted 17 seedlings into 9 oz cups and woke up Saturday to something cutting the top out of 7 of them. I watched them all day and saw no further damage and woke up this morning to discover 4 more totally eaten and the remaining 6 have been chewed on. They also ate another seedling on another shelf. It's only coming out at lights out, outside temps have been in the 70's and some insects are starting to appear. I have the remaining plants in a dome for protection. Any ideas what could be causing the problem? There is a no pest strip hanging.

the 'other' seedling


remaining babies


6 day old clones

What's so frustrating is that some of those seedlings were one of a kind and they were all of my english garden.


cof

wow that sucks man....pissed off wife maybe???? LOL "I'll show him"