Club 600

So I have 2 600 watt hps, a 400 hps and a 400 halide. A friend of mine wants to trade me a 1000 watt switchable hydrofarm setup for one of my 600 ones with a bat wing....I cant decide if it is a good idea or not though. Id be getting the better end of the deal as far as value for sure. I just dont know if running the 1000 instead of running 2 600's would be bennificial. I would be growing in a 4x4 tray with it next grow.

when it comes to lumens per watt the 600 wins hands down....but what do I know....I'm runnin 1000

ENDLSCYCLE said:

when it comes to lumens per watt the 600 wins hands down....but what do I know....I'm runnin 1000

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see my 600's both dont have exhaust, but the 1000 he has does, so it would be better for summer use maybe, and save me 200 watts....I know the 600's do get more lumens per watt though.

I came up with 130 lumens per watt for 1000 watt hps, and 150 lumens per watt for 600 watt hps.

That makes 600 watters 15% more efficient.

I run a 1000 and wish I had 2 - 600's myself. It's more light and it's coming from two places... lots of spread. Of course, your talking about more than just the lights. I like having lights close to the buds, so if you can't cool the 600's, I might go with the hood and the 1k. Haha... how's that for not telling you what to do.

jigfresh said:

I run a 1000 and wish I had 2 - 600's myself. It's more light and it's coming from two places... lots of spread. Of course, your talking about more than just the lights. I like having lights close to the buds, so if you can't cool the 600's, I might go with the hood and the 1k. Haha... how's that for not telling you what to do.

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Thanx for confusing me more!! Lol j/k I see the 1000 is less efficient, but then so is a batwing that one of my 600's has. Idk

Keep the 600s... Just upgrade your shit every couple grows Bass.. Dont worry about not having a vented hood now.. Youll be happier with the 6s

Said like a true Six Hunner bru!!!

Marlowe said:

Keep the 600s... Just upgrade your shit every couple grows Bass.. Dont worry about not having a vented hood now.. Youll be happier with the 6s

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Lovely looking Casey HeadsUp!!! and Tryna got some new pressies on his hands. Bassman I would agree with ENDLYs, wash some micros in there, hahaha. Seriously they do look quite damp but if you have just transplanted them I would also give em a day or two to spring back before doing owt drastic.

Take it easy gents (and ladies of course)

DST

well finaly got my rhino cuttings he gave me 17 instead of 12 so god knows what im going to do my grow room only 1x1 meter and about 6 ft high

Alright Gang! Just stopped by to ask if anybody know's anything about WBW? I know he was getting a lesson on Germing beans and a bit heednip fi the teacher lol and eventually closed the thread. But i don't think he's trying to figure out how to germ seed's hahaha. If you'r still about friend Hit Me Up!
jambo;>)

Marlowe said:

Keep the 600s... Just upgrade your shit every couple grows Bass.. Dont worry about not having a vented hood now.. Youll be happier with the 6s

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Yea. I started out with basic reflectors. I wish I hadn't but I didn't have the dough. But I found upgrades pretty easy to do, once harvests started arriving. Air-cooled lights are great. 1000W puts out a lot of heat compared to a 600 too. Hang on to the 600s.

budolskie said:

well finaly got my rhino cuttings he gave me 17 instead of 12 so god knows what im going to do my grow room only 1x1 meter and about 6 ft high

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get some cfls, keep one as a mother and bang the other 16 in you cupboard 4x4, veg for no more than 2 weeks and they will be manageable. that is what i would do anyway, you wanna be self sufficient, i learnt my lesson about depending on other people this grow.

I'd be with 2 6's as well. The math, along with the added versatility, makes sense to me. One of 2 bulbs/ballasts burning out is better than one of one, is another benefit.

greenjambo said:

Alright Gang! Just stopped by to ask if anybody know's anything about WBW? I know he was getting a lesson on Germing beans and a bit heednip fi the teacher lol and eventually closed the thread. But i don't think he's trying to figure out how to germ seed's hahaha. If you'r still about friend Hit Me Up!
jambo;>)

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he's pretty cool in my book.. i know he lurks these parts, but he is actie in my journal.

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

winter months are like that, running heat and growing. mine is 284.

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I don't run any heat in the winter in florida and my air conditioner is set at seventy five to keep my canopy temp at seventy eight. During the summer I have to run my air at sixty eight to keep my room around seventy eight. Last month my bill was two twenty five, this month, two twenty. One month last summer I hit three seventy, that's an ass kicker.

WBW is around and lurks here like Tryna. You're right though, he wasn't trying to learn how to germ a seed. He's got that down but was checking out some info based on something else that went down.

With the 600s vs a 1000, The only benefit to running the 1000 is that you've only got a single heat source instead of two. Sure a 1000 puts out more heat than a 600 but not more than two 600s. I currently have a singe 1000 in my vert room and the temps dropped 5 degrees over the two 600s with everything else being exactly the same. If it were me in your shoes though and I knew I could keep the room cool enough, I'd rock the two 600s too due to the amount of increased light you get for the small increase in electricity used.
Only reason I'm running a single 1000 in my vert room is because I'm experimenting with something. Otherwise there'd still be two 600s in there.

I would only take a thousand watter if I could handle the heat without having to kill my electric bill to cool it. I don't have that luxury in florida. Personally the only regret I have about my six hundreds, I didn't get big enough reflectors with my original purchase. One of these days I'm going to upgrade that portion of my equipment. I really don't like to grow more than six plants at a time when I'm growing bigger plants. I can put two directly under each light and the way my lights are set up, two between the lights where they receive great light from each light. I have about a five foot long or so spread by about three feet wide that receives great light, two thousand plus lumens right down to floor level with my lights sitting three feet plus from the floor. I think I will be a die hard six hundred watter for as long as I'm growing.

Heads Up said:

I would only take a thousand watter if I could handle the heat without having to kill my electric bill to cool it. I don't have that luxury in florida. Personally the only regret I have about my six hundreds, I didn't get big enough reflectors with my original purchase. One of these days I'm going to upgrade that portion of my equipment. I really don't like to grow more than six plants at a time when I'm growing bigger plants. I can put two directly under each light and the way my lights are set up, two between the lights where they receive great light from each light. I have about a five foot long or so spread by about three feet wide that receives great light, two thousand plus lumens right down to floor level with my lights sitting three feet plus from the floor. I think I will be a die hard six hundred watter for as long as I'm growing.

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with the right reflector,u can reach that sweet spot over the whole canopy.
that my next grab is some better reflectors..

during the winter or summer. my heat or air is on 73, my grow usually stays within +5 of that and lower.

Reflectors are my downfall at the moment as well. Cooltubes aren't the best reflectors, just run cooler than some others. I have one good one in the smaller tent with a 600 in it and the other tent has one of the cooltubes in it. Using my cheapo light meter I can see the good and bad spots in the tent with the cooltube. The one over the scrog has a nice reflective surface and looks nice but it's long and skinny instead of being more square.

The smaller tent has light coverage that's almost perfectly even with the meter not being pegged only in the corners but even there the meter only drops a little.

The tent with the cooltube has an excellent spread to the sides and the meter stays pegged from wall to wall in a 4x4 but going the direction the tube is pointing (end to end) is a different story. It only pegs the meter a few inches past the tube on either side.

These readings were all taken with the BULB at the same distance from the canopy in both tents and by running the meter along the top of the canopy. Again, it's a cheapo meter so not very accurate but I figured it should at least give the same info from one tent to another.

The scrog reflector's shape limits the light spread to the sides. It's exactly the opposite of the cooltube and I'll be turning it 90 degrees as soon as I can get to it. I would like to get a couple nice reflectors and just use the cooltubes for vert grows.

Here's the ones I'm looking at right now:





This is what's in the smaller tent that is giving me the most even coverage: