Club 600

OD I guess there aren't any grow stores in your area?...

whodatnation said:

OD I guess there aren't any grow stores in your area?...

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No, I want to take a trip to a good hydro store, but thats about a 2 hour drive. I will check out my normal spot for soil, but I dont know what they would have this time of year. Hmm, what am I thinking... recycle! These wont get transplanted until the switch to the flowering room, so I will have the soil from the plants that are flowering now. That should solve my soil issue.

glad to see everythings poppin' in the six hundo club. 1bmm your cave is looking sweet. got some little ones in the mail from a couple cool cats on here. almost done trimming my OD...and by almost i mean only another 3 or 4 pounds. Ive been super busy with ID and OD latley, and I cant wait to get some chill time and catch up on the 100s of posts ive missed.

Thanks seedless. Taking my sweet ass time getting it all dialed.

I know how to get in touch with edward scissor hands if you need him Seedless hehe.

Whodat picture perfect buds shots, and that drying rack is genius.

I'm a bit upset about some seeds I germd around a week ago. I germ'd 3 Cataract Kush and 3 Headband and all that sprouted were 2 of the Headband. they all had nice tap roots when I put them in the rockwool so I dunno what happened.

Anyway, here's the progress I made today. Got the insulation in the walls, the OSB sheeting on and the mylar hung. The shelf placement is laid out on the walls and the extra OSB I'm making them out of is marked up and ready to cut so tomorrow I'll run it all through the table saw ans mount them up. Then it's on to the veg area, which won't take long since I'm mainly taking stuff out instead of building stuff.

After taking these pics I started thinking about changing my creen name to Goldmember, LOL.

Some good vibes for Yeee.

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Got my 600watt room under way over the past couple days...

Repost of my thread in the indoor section


Here is the progress and supplies so far. Soil is ordered (Fox Farm Ocean Forest, Fox Farm Happy Frog, Fafard B Mix, and Fafard Custom Mix) they will all be tested side by side for a few different variables. Other than that the only things I am still waiting for are the oscillating fans, mylar, and a couple duct reducers.

The final setup will have four very short tables on casters measuring 3.5' x 6'...the room is 8' x 14' and the floor is in the process (first coat in pics) of having a rubberized floor laid...One 8" Can Fan per three lights, one 8" Can Fan for exhaust and one 6" Can Fan for intake...all High Output models which will exhaust to the Ozone Generator and exit threw an 8" hole in the chimney. This is all for now.

The space I had to work with



Mother room is in the back left corner of the room in this pick


The mother/clone room (measures 5' by 4'...those square pots are 12" x 12" 4.75gallon)


Framed and rubber floor going in


Flower room


And the toys






In the next week the flower and mother room will be wired with a total of three new 20amp breakers, all the walls and ceiling will be insulated with R5 Styrofoam Board, and the tables, lights, and fans installed.

From my estimate with three gallon bags I have a max capacity of 200 plants in flowering at a time. This first run will have 100 plants.

Thoughts?

Heads Up said:

That flushing thing again. I have flushed and not flushed. The last grow I flushed, maybe this one I won't? I think it makes no difference if your bud is dried and cured properly. Actually I don't like to flush, that's a week to ten days of nothing but water. I don't care for that idea, maybe the last few days of nothing but water but ten days?

DST you are correct, this and the last grow I have been concentrating on creating that living soil idea. First I concentrated on the buds, then after acquiring a little knowledge concentrated on the leaves, now it's time to concentrate on the root structure. As those who have been around know, I don't use hot mixes of nutes, I use the less is more method of fertilization. Anyway since starting the clones on rhizotonic a few days ago, today it seems like they have exploded with growth. I gave them some more rhizo today, yesterday they got a light dose of N and some hygrozyme. I also use liquid karma every once in a while on all my plants. As for the chelating, it makes nutrients available immediately to your plants as dst said. My actual macro nutrients pretty much stay the same. I use 9-3-6 for grow and jacks classic blossom booster for flowering, 10-30-20 and I'm quite happy with the results. If I think they need extra N, I give them fish emulsion 5-1-1. I also use silica, 0-0-3. About every fifth watering or so I give them some molasses for the bacteria in the soil to eat. Every once in a while they get some cal-mag. Today in the mail my Zone from dutch master arrived, more root stuff to try out.

Back to the pk thing, it's something like week three or four of flowering, how much pk should I start them with?

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What I would suggest is roughly calculate how many more waters you think you are going through (say an extra 6 weeks worth) and then start with the min 0.1ml per litre (roughly 0.5ml per gallon) then increase this 10 times over the next 6 weeks worth of watering until you are at 5ml per gallon...

littlegrower2004 said:

hey guys been a little while since ive posted. i harvested most my plants and put a couple more in to replace them. ive got a ? though for my new plants. i was trying to keep these plants healthy and green, so i have been PHing my nutes adding superthrive and molasses yet i still have yellowing on my leaves around the second full week of flower. i havent changed watering cycle so its not over watering, my nutes for flower are 0-10-0 mixd with a small amount of my veg 3-1-3. not sure if i need to get a flower stimulant that is real high in P, like beastie bloomz. thanks for the advice.

last two pics are the plants in ?- the others have the dead growth and yellowing but too far into flower to worry about.

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I would go for a macro problem, give them something like the product I suggested, contains all those essential elements (including molybdenum - which I would guess as your problem.) Then continue with a light feed from there....

Outdoorindica said:

No, I want to take a trip to a good hydro store, but thats about a 2 hour drive. I will check out my normal spot for soil, but I dont know what they would have this time of year. Hmm, what am I thinking... recycle! These wont get transplanted until the switch to the flowering room, so I will have the soil from the plants that are flowering now. That should solve my soil issue.

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Recycle for sure!!! Works wonders.

MedHeadGRWR said:

Got my 600watt room under way over the past couple days...


Thoughts?

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Thoughts...WOW! That's my first thought, second thought...wish I had that much space....third thought, You have spent quite a bit of $£'s I hope it all works out, seems like you are on top of things....and just a few 600's eh?!?! lol. Please keep us posted of your progress and feel free to post and chime in whenever you like.

Peace to all 600's.

DST

yeh MedHeadGRWR that room is something serious
Any a/c or dehumidifier? Im sure you got it covered.

OK, back to the guano thing. Do you guys have to brew your guano before using it? The international house of guano variety pack is what I was looking at, looks interesting. I seem to recall reading something or other about organics and aerobics, good and bad ones and if you let your brew sit around too long it develops those bad aerobics...pardon the wording I don't recall the proper terminology.

Outdoor, if you have a home depot around you, I use Scott's premium potting soil for containers with great results. Of course I add perlite and worm castings among other things.

DST that DPQ looks excellent man, frostastico

lovely colours little grower!

whodat always coming with the fat nugs man.

MedHeadGRWR daaaamn man thats going to be some sweet setup

loving the slightly stoopid track 1bmm, looks like your going to be up and rocking in no time man!


so i got a question for the 600, i took a couple of clones well into flower like 5 ish weeks, the clones are lookin crazy, almost not like mj at all, question is will they eventually sort themselves out ?

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Don, what ya' got there? Confederate Jasmine?

medhead, do you have someone who comes in to read your water meter? That's the first thing that pops into my mind...other than WOW! That is quite the serious outlay of dollars. Just please don't tell me after all of that you are going to start with bagseed. Just for future reference, you could have gotten your HO lights for much cheaper. In case they take a dump, you can get what is called high bay HO lights from contractor lighting supply for half the cost. They are not grow lights per say but they do the same thing at half the cost. I've done two complete grows with a four tube, four foot t-5, 20k lumen output and I currently have said fixture in my mother keeper grow tent for vegging and it does a great job.

http://www.contractorlighting.com/high-bay-c-32.html?page=1&sort=2a

Other than that, a tip of the hat to you, that is going to be one mean set-up. Good luck and good growing.

Whodat, very, very nice bud. Please tell me more as to how you use guanos.

And DST, I started my girls off with one ml of pk 13-14 last night, per gallon of water.

hahah its cherry cheese but more like a black rose pheno it came from this rude gal

Don

That's normal for a re-veg, she'll look like a mj plant shortly...don't give up on her.


cof

thanks cof i wasnt about to! i hate seeing any mj plant die even the males

cof, thanks for that info, I was not aware of that little fact. Some of my clones are showing a bit of strange traits also, twisted mutated leaves seems to be the common factor. I do however notice that the more they grow, the more normal the growing pattern.

DST said:

Thoughts...WOW! That's my first thought, second thought...wish I had that much space....third thought, You have spent quite a bit of $£'s I hope it all works out, seems like you are on top of things....and just a few 600's eh?!?! lol. Please keep us posted of your progress and feel free to post and chime in whenever you like.

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Thanks and will do.

whodatnation said:

yeh MedHeadGRWR that room is something serious
Any a/c or dehumidifier? Im sure you got it covered.

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Thanks, A/C hopefully should not be needed. The room will have two 8" 750 cfm Can Fans just for cooling the lights which the air being pulled through is cool basement air...dehumidifier will be used if necessary (hopefully neither will be needed to cut down on electric consumption.

Don Gin and Ton said:

MedHeadGRWR daaaamn man thats going to be some sweet setup

so i got a question for the 600, i took a couple of clones well into flower like 5 ish weeks, the clones are lookin crazy, almost not like mj at all, question is will they eventually sort themselves out ?

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Thanks! What strain is that?

Heads Up said:

medhead, do you have someone who comes in to read your water meter? That's the first thing that pops into my mind...other than WOW! That is quite the serious outlay of dollars. Just please don't tell me after all of that you are going to start with bagseed. Just for future reference, you could have gotten your HO lights for much cheaper. In case they take a dump, you can get what is called high bay HO lights from contractor lighting supply for half the cost. They are not grow lights per say but they do the same thing at half the cost. I've done two complete grows with a four tube, four foot t-5, 20k lumen output and I currently have said fixture in my mother keeper grow tent for vegging and it does a great job.

http://www.contractorlighting.com/high-bay-c-32.html?page=1&sort=2a

Other than that, a tip of the hat to you, that is going to be one mean set-up. Good luck and good growing.

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Thanks man, in the year of owning the house they never came in to check the water meter so I am not concerned about that. As for the strains being used, here is a list of what I have to choose from.

DNA Genetics - Kushberry Feminized

Barneys Farm - Night Shade Feminized

Paradise Seeds - Sensi Star

Green House Seeds - Himalayan Gold Feminized

Dutch Passion - Holland's Hope Feminized seeds

T H Seeds - Chocolate Chunk

Paradise seeds - White Berry Feminized

Reserva Privada - OG Kush #18 Feminized

Barneys Farm - LSD Feminized

Sensi Seeds - Big Bud

Dutch Passion - Twilight Feminized

Homegrown Fantaseeds - Cheese

Barneys Farm - Vanilla Kush Feminized

UFO #4 Royal Queen Seeds - Amnesia Haze Feminized

UFO #3 Royal Queen Seeds - Shining Silver Haze Feminized

UFO #2 Royal Queen Seeds - Special Queen #1 Feminized

UFO #1Royal Queen Seeds - Special Kush #1 Feminized

UFO #5 Royal Queen Seeds - Blue Mistic Feminized

As well as a couple different cross breed white widows that are in the works

I will probably keep 10 mothers of a few different strains...more than enough to choose some good one.

As for the lamps, well I got 6 of those High Par Lumitek bulbs for $400 (about $65 a piece), I got the Lumatek ballasts for $700 (about $115 a piece) and the Yield Master hoods for $500 (about $85 each) and the T5 lights I got the 4' 8 bulb for $230 and the 4' 2 bulb for $95 so I can't complain about those prices IMO.

Well you are in week 3 (i think thats what you said) of flower so I don't think that'll be such a biggie. Let us know if you see any difference

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And DST, I started my girls off with one ml of pk 13-14 last night, per gallon of water.

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Just got back from my local House and Garden growshop....there were a couple of dudes buying the shop out (Dutchies in a German car - which means they live on the border and probably register their car in Germany since it's cheaper - although illegal to do!!!) However, I don't think the illegal car really worried them since they were buying about the same, if not more grow equipment than Medheadgrwr....it's always interesting to see the character that come into a grow shop!!