Club 600

Don Gin and Ton said:

ok 600 lil help!

so as those that follow my ramblings know ive had a smell problem for a while hahah BO...

ive had my setup like this CAN> COOLTUBE> COOLTUBE> FAN> VENT OUT. I spoke to the guy at the hydro store i shop at n he said its no where near as effective with the fan that far away from the filter thats why its not working as it should.

so ive bought myself another 5" fan and am now wondering the best way to go about setting it up.

if you look at my CAD drawing hehe... should i put the new fan driectly behind the filter and run it in line with the other before the 2 cooltubes.

Or run the cooltubes straight out of the tent with no filter and have a seperate line fro the new fan with the filter directly on the end and merge the two outlets to go out?

will it cause a pressure problem running the two on the same line? anyone have any input ideas it would be much appreciated. its going to be hard enough to get the things in there as the tents full at the minute.

cheers guys

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I put my fan right on top of the filter and push the air through my hoods and out. I had to slow down the fans as it was working too well.

what size tent do you run? 8 x 4? and how many hoods? thanks for the reply man

oh and what was happening when it was working too well? just lots of airflow or anything else?

I have mine running exactly as you do Don but I'm sure our fans aren't rated the same since there's soo many out there. I've got another fan identical to the one I'm using but have'nt installed it yet for the same reason as yourself. I don't really need it yet though since there's pnly 4 plants that aren't that far along into flower so they're not stinky.

I was considering installing a 'Y' adapter just before my fan and mounting the other fan on the other side of the 'Y' but then, like you, I'd have to cut another hole. An 8" one too...

I was checking out different vertical systems out there and came across this company's site:
http://www.hg-hydroponics.co.uk/eco-system-300-plant-vertical-system-115-p.asp

Check it out, they've got some pretty cool systems. I'm not planning on buying one since they're $$$ but they're cool just the same.

Can someone explain Prop 19 in a few simple sentences please? I hear so much about it and feel quite ignorant to it all.....oh, Rep of course, lol.

DST said:

Can someone explain Prop 19 in a few simple sentences please? I hear so much about it and feel quite ignorant to it all.....oh, Rep of course, lol.

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i just read this article.

theres pros and cons as with everything. i support prop 19 cause it allows the peoples voice to be heard. weather or not it works is another story. the feds are gunna be like naaah though, so we're just gunna have to say fuck you

I can give you my understanding of it. It doesn't mean I'm right, just the way I understand it.

The claimed basic goal is to help our states deficit by making it legal for the general public to purchase and smoke MJ and taxing the sale of it.

It states all of the stipulations that will be placed on the sale and use of MJ which are lengthy but the ones that would apply most often are that you have to be 21 (like alcohol) and that it can't be used in public areas or establishments (unless said establishment has proper permits) and that everyone will be able to grow their own MJ in their home with a limit of 25 Sq. Ft. TOTAL space related to the grow. You have to contain every aspect of your grow to 25 Sq. Ft. or you will be in violation of the law. It doesn't superceed Prop 215 so medical patients and growers will not be affected by limitations placed on others like the 25 Sq. Ft. rule or the carry limit of 1oz.

We (215 card holders) can currently carry 8oz and have no space limits on our grows but we do have plant count limits. We just have to be able to convince the law enforcement and judicial system, if it comes to that, that our grow is for personal consumption only.


I'll leave my personal opinions out of this post since you only asked for an explanation.

Don Gin and Ton said:

what size tent do you run? 8 x 4? and how many hoods? thanks for the reply man

oh and what was happening when it was working too well? just lots of airflow or anything else?

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Its a 6x6 with 2 hoods. , It was creating a vacuum and turning the tent into a 5x5 the cold air input was dropping temps to 65-67. so i slowed down both fans and added a little heater, now it run at 72-74 with 55-60% humidity consistently.

See for yourself.......

[video=youtube;PPpwBV6fg1Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPpwBV6fg1Y[/video]

Dezracer said:

I can give you my understanding of it. It doesn't mean I'm right, just the way I understand it.

The claimed basic goal is to help our states deficit by making it legal for the general public to purchase and smoke MJ and taxing the sale of it.

It states all of the stipulations that will be placed on the sale and use of MJ which are lengthy but the ones that would apply most often are that you have to be 21 (like alcohol) and that it can't be used in public areas or establishments (unless said establishment has proper permits) and that everyone will be able to grow their own MJ in their home with a limit of 25 Sq. Ft. TOTAL space related to the grow. You have to contain every aspect of your grow to 25 Sq. Ft. or you will be in violation of the law. It doesn't superceed Prop 215 so medical patients and growers will not be affected by limitations placed on others like the 25 Sq. Ft. rule or the carry limit of 1oz.

We (215 card holders) can currently carry 8oz and have no space limits on our grows but we do have plant count limits. We just have to be able to convince the law enforcement and judicial system, if it comes to that, that our grow is for personal consumption only.


I'll leave my personal opinions out of this post since you only asked for an explanation.

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i agree with this but the reason most growers incali are not liking it is cuz they will not be making as much money any more, they will still make it but not as much, cuz as you know they already have indoor factories down their growing huge amounts of weed.

mcpurple said:

i agree with this but the reason most growers incali are not liking it is cuz they will not be making as much money any more, they will still make it but not as much, cuz as you know they already have indoor factories down their growing huge amounts of weed.

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IMO It adds more Regulation and More gray area, Do we really need More Government Regulation? I think not.......

wormdrive66 said:

IMO It adds more Regulation and More gray area, Do we really need More Government Regulation? I think not.......

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yes in way i think. but if it passes any one over 21 wil be bale to use legaly right? instead of just patients, so that would be a lesser of a restriction. But then it is going to be just like alcohol in a way and regulated like that. and no i really dont think we need more gov. regulations. im just putting in my opinions, im not aware of what prop 19 fully is, i read alot about it but not every thing on it

Supposedly it will aid our budget in many ways like the increased revenue from taxation, reducing the cost of running the prisons since there would be a decrease in arrests for MJ related crimes (I don't believe this one since the penalties are soo high for passing a J to a minor), etc.

What will be funny though is to see just how much it costs the state to fight all of the appeal cases that get filed for people that are currently in jail for MJ related offenses and people that want their MJ related probation lifted. There's already hundreds of appeal cases pending in my county alone. I was given that info from the attorney I spoke to regarding my niece the other day.

She got suspended from school for 5 days and has to appear in court for her mess. My brother said that the info he was given was blown out of proportion and it wasn't nearly as bad he was told. She had a hobby knife that she was using to make single use pipes out of pens and not a serious weapon. She also didn't have anywhere near an oz on her. Some of it was split up into little amounts though so she could pack the bowls in the pipes which shows nitent to sell so she's stil going to get reamed pretty good. Stupid girl...She tried to justify it to her dad by saying she was doing it because she knew they didn't have any money. They've only been without money for a few weeks because they just moved and he had to out of pocket a boatload of cash for deposits and stuff. He's since got his deposit back from his old place and is fine.

mcpurple said:

i agree with this but the reason most growers incali are not liking it is cuz they will not be making as much money any more, they will still make it but not as much, cuz as you know they already have indoor factories down their growing huge amounts of weed.

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This I'm aware of and agree with as well. The mass production will reduce the price that everyone will have to pay, even after taxes are levied. The dispensaries will be paying less to buy from them so they'll expect to pay less to everone else too. That will hurt the profits of typical, non-commercial growers.

Dezracer said:

Supposedly it will aid our budget in many ways like the increased revenue from taxation, reducing the cost of running the prisons since there would be a decrease in arrests for MJ related crimes (I don't believe this one since the penalties are soo high for passing a J to a minor), etc.

What will be funny though is to see just how much it costs the state to fight all of the appeal cases that get filed for people that are currently in jail for MJ related offenses and people that want their MJ related probation lifted. There's already hundreds of appeal cases pending in my county alone. I was given that info from the attorney I spoke to regarding my niece the other day.
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wow i didnt even think of this. know one should be in trouble for weed or on probation anyways for it, mabye they wont even fight it but who knows. im on probation right now if it passes i just might go down theri and see if i move if i can get it dropped mabye

wormdrive66 said:

IMO It adds more Regulation and More gray area, Do we really need More Government Regulation? I think not.......

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I agree with this statement too.
The whole thing kind of sucks and everyone keeps saying, "we have to start somewhere" but if you stop to think about who the people are that are placing themselves in the spotlight and endorsing the prop you'll se that the vast majority of them have something to gain financially from it. From Subcool to Jorge Cervantes. You think his book sales will go up if this passes? I do. You think seed sales will go up? I do. If these people have something to gain, of course they'll endorse it. Think about it...

I'm saying I'm for it or against it, I'll keep that to myself so as not to start a debate. That's not what the 600 is here for. I'm just pointing a few things out.

mcpurple said:

wow i didnt even think of this. know one should be in trouble for weed or on probation anyways for it, mabye they wont even fight it but who knows. im on probation right now if it passes i just might go down theri and see if i move if i can get it dropped mabye

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Exactly, and you should too...

We'll know soon enough how accurate everyone's guesses are about if it's going to pass or not, right?

It all sounds hypocritical to me after all federal law still classes weed as a schedule 1 drug, how can the government profit from taxes of a substance that they say has no medical benefit? On the other hand i wish we had the chance to vote on something like this in the UK even medical weed would be a forward step here.

3eyes said:

it all sounds hypocritical to me after all federal law still classes weed as a schedule 1 drug, how can the government profit from taxes of a substance that they say has no medical benefit?

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ding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's an argument that's been made over and over again. I'm confused about it and find it hypocritical in a way too. The only thing is that it's a state governing body that will benefit and not a federal one that still considers it illegal. They are separate to a point here but not entirely.

It would also be interesting to see how long it is before the feds step in and shut down the commercial ops for federally illegal activities. They'd really be nothing more than big time dealers that have a state issued permit to manufacture and sell a substance that's considered to be a controlled one at the federal level. Not sure how that works exactly but somehow they (wegrow and other corporations) think they've got it covered.