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HydroGp

HydroGp

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Had a great time Jig. Lots of up's and down's along the way though.. Ill elaborate later :)
Gifted seeds:
Grow city/Unknown breeder - Amnesia x 9
Grow city/Unknown breeder - Critical + auto x 1
Devils Harvest seeds - Shoreline x 3
Horitilab - SourAmnesia x 10
VIP Seeds - White Berry x 5
VIP Seeds - Chingis Khan x 1
VIP Seeds - Amnezia x 1
VIP Seeds - Tank x 1
VIP Seeds - Auto Love Cheese x 1
VIP Seeds - Colombian Sweet x 2
Delicious Seeds - Northern light Blue auto
Family Ganja - Critical Man
Xtreme Seeds - Xtreme Kush x 5
Xtreme Seeds - Secret Ducky x 1
Unknown Breeder - Kraken 47 x 1
Zamnesia - OG Kush x 10

Bought seeds:
Sweet Seeds - Dark Devil Auto x 7
Vision Seeds - Chocoloco x 5

Pretty cool! Could not find any lemon strains tho :/ Spent most my money at the club... Holy crap.

Ive missed my dogs. All of them :)
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My eyes are drying out and im so tired but my mind is going 100 singing Im an albatroz :/ Vikings should do it.. Night night
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Dr.D81 said:
Cool read!
All I can say is I tried it and liked the way it made the plants finish in a side by side, so I do it now:)
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Yeah that's called 'anecdotal', it's purely subjective and doesn't stand up to the scientific method.

Chromatography laughs in the face of side by sides.




We can throw fertilising with Alfalfa (for triacontanol) and defoliation for yield (redirection of energy) into the same pot of bullshit.
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Dr.D81 said:
It adds to the finished product IMO.
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Like I said, that's your subjective opinion, it's not fact.

You must be growing some seriously bunk gear if (in your opinion) the finished product from a plant that has had it's roots boiled is of a better quality than that from one which hasn't.

If you can't logically, rationally and objectively explain the mechanism by which you think it has been improved then that should indicate to you that whatever marker you are using to judge it is purely a figment of your imagination and nothing more than bold assertion.


Sorry mate.
 
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The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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curious old fart said:
In defense of doc, he grows some damn fine plants and is a whiz on breeding. He knows his genetics.
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And that's a textbook 'appeal to authority' fallacy.

I could have just spouted the information from my own knowledge but how can I expect anyone to just take my word for it because 'Hey I know what I'm talking about'?

Hence Robert Connell Clarke was quoted.
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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genuity said:
When you gonna fire that up?

For some reason,I still have not fired my de up yet....
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Already have!

I've been vegging for weeks under a 315w CMH, it was getting very full under that light and my plants were stretching due to overcrowding.

I've moved my 6 biggest under the gavita, set at 400w for now to acclimate them. I love being able to switch wattages.

I'll be picking up another 6/750e FLEX in a few weeks! I'll have the 2x gavita 6/750s in a 4x8x8 tent.

My plants are gonna be happy to have more space to themselves.
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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The Yorkshireman said:
And that's a textbook 'appeal to authority' fallacy.

I could have just spouted the information from my own knowledge but how can I expect anyone to just take my word for it because 'Hey I know what I'm talking about'?

Hence Robert Connell Clarke was quoted.
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You are appealing to authority as well...

Just because the technique hasn't been studied and quantified doesn't mean it is bunk.

Your argument is that

Some people claim that watering with boiling water has a positive effect on final product.
Science has no quantifiable proof that this is true.
Therefore, watering with boiling water is bunk.

You are appealing to the authority of science, when all science has done is "not prove" that boiling water works. There hasn't been scientific proof to support that boiling water doesn't work. Science disagrees with the conclusion because science cannot prove the conclusion, but this doesn't disprove our first premise.

I think that all makes sense lol.

I'm super stoned and its been a while since my last logic course, but it occurred to me that there were multiple appeals to authority taking place.

Looking forward to your rebuttal lol
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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a senile fungus said:
You are appealing to authority as well...

Just because the technique hasn't been studied and quantified doesn't mean it is bunk.

Your argument is that

Some people claim that watering with boiling water has a positive effect on final product.
Science has no quantifiable proof that this is true.
Therefore, watering with boiling water is bunk.

You are appealing to the authority of science, when all science has done is "not prove" that boiling water works. There hasn't been scientific proof to support that boiling water doesn't work. Science disagrees with the conclusion because science cannot prove the conclusion, but this doesn't disprove our first premise.

I think that all makes sense lol.

I'm super stoned and its been a while since my last logic course, but it occurred to me that there were multiple appeals to authority taking place.

Looking forward to your rebuttal lol
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No not at all, maybe you could read my posts again and try to understand them.
 
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oldman60

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HydroGp said:
Had a great time Jig. Lots of up's and down's along the way though.. Ill elaborate later :)
Gifted seeds:
Grow city/Unknown breeder - Amnesia x 9
Grow city/Unknown breeder - Critical + auto x 1
Devils Harvest seeds - Shoreline x 3
Horitilab - SourAmnesia x 10
VIP Seeds - White Berry x 5
VIP Seeds - Chingis Khan x 1
VIP Seeds - Amnezia x 1
VIP Seeds - Tank x 1
VIP Seeds - Auto Love Cheese x 1
VIP Seeds - Colombian Sweet x 2
Delicious Seeds - Northern light Blue auto
Family Ganja - Critical Man
Xtreme Seeds - Xtreme Kush x 5
Xtreme Seeds - Secret Ducky x 1
Unknown Breeder - Kraken 47 x 1
Zamnesia - OG Kush x 10

Bought seeds:
Sweet Seeds - Dark Devil Auto x 7
Vision Seeds - Chocoloco x 5

Pretty cool! Could not find any lemon strains tho :/ Spent most my money at the club... Holy crap.

Ive missed my dogs. All of them :)
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My eyes are drying out and im so tired but my mind is going 100 singing Im an albatroz :/ Vikings should do it.. Night night
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Where's the pix of the 4 legged ones?
:peace:
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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a senile fungus said:
Please go on, continue to dismiss me and make implications that I don't understand your logic...
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I'm not dismissing you and it's not MY logic that you don't seem to understand.

I'm tired and it's a bit late here to be getting deeper into this and how to properly construct a logical argument but for a start off you need a quantifiable premise with which to work from otherwise it's just speculation and assertion which can in no way form a rational argument.

If you read my posts again and try to wrap your head round what has been said rather than what you think has been said then maybe we can discuss it another time, I have no problem with this.
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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The Yorkshireman said:
I'm not dismissing you and it's not MY logic that you don't seem to understand.

I'm tired and it's a bit late here to be getting deeper into this and how to properly construct a logical argument but for a start off you need a quantifiable premise with which to work from otherwise it's just speculation and assertion which can in no way form a rational argument.

If you read my posts again and try to wrap your head round what has been said rather than what you think has been said then maybe we can discuss it another time, I have no problem with this.
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Sounds good.

I had a long day and short fuse.

I should probably smoke a bowl before I infer anything else...

Have a good night.
 
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