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SpectatorFernFirm

SpectatorFernFirm

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hornedfrog2000 said:
Does this mean you're doing good or bad? I wanna puke when I hear lil wayne.
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I rag on him all the time lol. Real main stream but as long as my "bitches" love me I'm good! Lol. I do like Future tho so I like the song. But yes very good night. And now I'm entering club zima with DJ Pillow on the ones and twos. With that said good night to all 6ers!
 
Shwagbag

Shwagbag

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A shout out to the 600's organic growers for some infoz if ya'll don't mind? I've read some info on expired mushroom compost as a soil amendment. It appears to have all kinds of goodies in there at low concentrations including macros and micros. But I've read from some sources that its pasteurized and others suggest otherwise? I want to get my hands on some of this shit either expired or enriched, but I'd like to know for sure if the recycled stuff is pasteurized since that would kill the microbiology of the compost. I suppose it could be re-introduced but I'm curious like a cat, my friends call me "Whiskers"

With Spanish subtitles because NBC hates Youtube lol.

[video=youtube;haAhdtDmsOw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haAhdtDmsOw[/video]
 
wormdrive66

wormdrive66

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Shwagbag said:
A shout out to the 600's organic growers for some infoz if ya'll don't mind? I've read some info on expired mushroom compost as a soil amendment. It appears to have all kinds of goodies in there at low concentrations including macros and micros. But I've read from some sources that its pasteurized and others suggest otherwise? I want to get my hands on some of this shit either expired or enriched, but I'd like to know for sure if the recycled stuff is pasteurized since that would kill the microbiology of the compost. I suppose it could be re-introduced but I'm curious like a cat, my friends call me "Whiskers"

With Spanish subtitles because NBC hates Youtube lol.

[video=youtube;haAhdtDmsOw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haAhdtDmsOw[/video]
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I have seen it used in a few soil recipes. I think Vermisoil uses it. It is also a big part of most Biodynamic soil preparation. I think it comes sterilized so it is just fast food for the beneficial microbes already in your soil.
 
Shwagbag

Shwagbag

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I'm very interested in getting my hands on some to play with. It seems like a fantastic tool for a microbial breeding ground.willing to bet a phat j of some hericules that WhoD is typing a response right now Too lol :joint:
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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Shwagbag said:
I'm very interested in getting my hands on some to play with. It seems like a fantastic tool for a microbial breeding ground.willing to bet a phat j of some hericules that WhoD is typing a response right now Too lol :joint:
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lol hand over that fat J mr shwag :eyesmoke: I got nothin bongsmilie


is it wrong im rubbing the mouse cursor in between the ass cheeks of your AV? :-D
 
wormdrive66

wormdrive66

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Shwagbag said:
Do you think it vermifire would make a respectable replacement for roots organics in super soil? Will look at that link now thx!
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To tell you the truth I was disapointed in vermisoil. I used it last year on some small outdoor plants. It came out of the bag looking dark and great but after a few waterings it looked depleted and pale. plants were pretty weak too. The Vermifire might be better.
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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That link looks like some fantastic soil! Next grow I will simply be amending my compost with similar ingredients.

edit: I think bobo is using vermifire. Iv yet to even read up on it... The stuff Im using is keeping me and the plants fairly satisfied,, thank FSM.
 
Shwagbag

Shwagbag

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wormdrive66 said:
To tell you the truth I was disapointed in vermisoil. I used it last year on some small outdoor plants. It came out of the bag looking dark and great but after a few waterings it looked depleted and pale. plants were pretty weak too. The Vermifire might be better.
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That's the one I'm thinking of I need to look at it. My local products are limited I'll see if i c an grab those with some luck. The empire soil looks really nice. I'd prolly add some extra N to the mix.
 
wormdrive66

wormdrive66

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Shwagbag said:
Do you think it vermifire would make a respectable replacement for roots organics in super soil? Will look at that link now thx!

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Do you add blood meal or com posted manure to EB? Looks and sounds very nice.
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Unless you are making a supersoil you do not need to add anything. Are you using it indoor?
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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From the list of ingredients Empire Builder is a supersoil. IMO nothing needs to be added except for some extra castings and perlite... Other than that this is a hot mix :-) It says no other amendments are needed but maybe that package design is just a little too pretty.

Of course, tea is ALWAYS recommended :-)

Edit: Outdoors may need something extra if growing giant plants with a relatively small amount of this. In this case I always keep the rootmass in mind, if im growing giants plants I want giant containers/holes just meaning more soil. I would also like to stress that I have never grown outdoor lol

Edit edit: One thing I dont see in there is dolomite lime or granular lime... I see limestone, but not sure if this is just as quick and effective as your usual dol lime... But also keep in mind I dont sell soil for a living... That would be cool :-) Bring a new meaning to "hitting pay dirt" ;-)

INGREDIENTS

Empire Builder Producers Blend contains generous amounts of perfectly mineral balanced and microbe enhanced ingredients:
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
Available Phosphate (P2O5): 0.07%
Soluble Potash (K2O): 0.52%
Derived from rock phosphate, potassium sulfate.
ALSO CONTAINS NONPLANT FOOD INGREDIENT:
0.6% Humic acid from lignite.
SOIL AMENDING INGREDIENTS: Coco Coir, Sphagnum Peat Moss, Composted Forest Humus, Worm Castings, Coco Chips, Lava Rock, Pumice, Perlite, Gypsum, langbeinite, sea bird and bat guano, fish bonemeal, feather meal, bonemeal, limestone, greensand, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, glacial rock dust, azomite, soybean meal, and rice bran.
 
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