Clones

the cloner · Jan 1, 2011

hi all asking if anyone with exp of taking clones could help me out
this was my first go at cloning cut them put them in root gel and moist rockwool
cubes and in to propagator under cfl light spray with canna rhizo as advised 2wks now an still no roots there all still alive and growing new growth and nice and green
any help would be great :peace:

brick20 · Jan 1, 2011

did u cut the tips of the fan leaves.?

it sounds like u pretty much got things down packed.

Post some pics so i can further help u..?

the cloner · Jan 1, 2011

no i never should i have as i say first time
wot does down packed mean good or bad lol

stickystink · Jan 1, 2011

try and wait until the root system is properly established (dont try n make it run before it can walk!!!) but new growth is good, keep it as u r going m8 itll be fine

Hum215 · Jan 1, 2011

You are doing fine. Some varieties can take 3+ weeks for nodes to appear. As long as they look healthy up top, I wouldn't worry too much about it. What temperature are they?

Hydrotech364 · Jan 1, 2011

Never spray the cutting.Just spray your dome.Clones get used to foliar feeding/moisture if you spray the leaves.Take the dome off every day and for a little more time every day.The goal is to not need the dome at all,forcing the cuts to produce roots.Usually onn the sixth day I will give them 6 hours of dark.They show more root growth @ this time.Last but not least roots hate light.Darken the rooting area if its not already dark.I always have 100% survival.Took a long time to get it right.Its really not complicated Bro

ink the world · Jan 1, 2011

I have a perpetual grow so Im constantly taking cuttings.

Make sure the clones are in a warm and moist environment. Ive found that if you have that environment I only need to lightly mist the clones 2 times a day. Over misting can slow root development i believe, you want the roots to search for water, if you are spraying all the time they wont need to run.
Mist the inside of the humidity dome to keep it humid in there. I also use a normal heating pad under my tray to keep it warm when needed.

Have patience man, some strains can take a while to root. As long as the tops stay green and the clone doesnt wilt they are OK.

brick20 · Jan 1, 2011

the cloner said:
no i never, should i have..? as i say first time...
what does down packed mean..? good or bad..? lol...

yes u should cut the tips after u take the cutting from the mom...

cutting the tips would send a signal(hormone) to the cutting to make new fan shoots with new leaves,
that would speed up the rooting processes...

brick20 · Jan 1, 2011

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DrFever · Jan 1, 2011

hydrotech364 said:
Never spray the cutting.Just spray your dome.Clones get used to foliar feeding/moisture if you spray the leaves.Take the dome off every day and for a little more time every day.The goal is to not need the dome at all,forcing the cuts to produce roots.Usually onn the sixth day I will give them 6 hours of dark.They show more root growth @ this time.Last but not least roots hate light.Darken the rooting area if its not already dark.I always have 100% survival.Took a long time to get it right.Its really not complicated Bro

exactly once you cloned spray dome and dont touch for least 4 days then lift dome give it air give leafs a light mist but most importantly is give it water on the bottom forcing roots to go to water many problems is people foiler feed an plants will grow even with no roots you want to reverse the sequence and force it to root i found that once roots are noticed switchin light cycle to 20 /4 will induce vigerious growth then week later transplant into 4 " cubes and 18 /6 and your on your way

DrFever · Jan 1, 2011

brick20 said:
yes u should cut the tips after u take the cutting from the mom...

cutting the tips would send a signal(hormone) to the cutting to make new fan shoots with new leaves,
that would speed up the rooting processes...

if that was the case then why not cut all your fan leafs on a plant in veg wouldnt it send (Hormones to activate more nodes
were cloneing here you want to reverse plants cycle from growing to makin roots people cut leafs in half to allow more light penetration to the soil or what ever medium you are useing cant imagine not cutting fan leafs on clone when you got 98 clones in a jiffy cube

brick20 · Jan 1, 2011

DrFever said:
if that was the case then why not cut all your fan leafs on a plant in veg wouldnt it send (Hormones to activate more nodes
were cloneing here you want to reverse plants cycle from growing to makin roots people cut leafs in half to allow more light penetration to the soil or what ever medium you are useing cant imagine not cutting fan leafs on clone when you got 98 clones in a jiffy cube

oh, ok thank u for pointing that out...

the cloner · Jan 2, 2011

thanks guys for all the help but as for cutting the tips i was told not to remove any leafs til they had
roots as the plants would try to repair the damage rather than concentrate on the root some now
have a tint of yellow on them think that this batch may fail gutted cos the mother is in flower now

Hydrotech364 · Jan 2, 2011

DrFever said:
if that was the case then why not cut all your fan leafs on a plant in veg wouldnt it send (Hormones to activate more nodes
were cloneing here you want to reverse plants cycle from growing to makin roots people cut leafs in half to allow more light penetration to the soil or what ever medium you are useing cant imagine not cutting fan leafs on clone when you got 98 clones in a jiffy cube

On a plant in veg yes.A cutting however is in a state of shock/transformation.If you damage any part of the cutting that part usually dies.Cutting leaves allows leakage from the leaf.At this point in a cuttings life the only leakage you want is the growth hormone that has been stored in it to only leak out of the original cuts.Moms growth hormone is usually stored mostly in the lower oldest limbs of the plant,thats why you want to take the cuttings from here.

Hydrotech364 · Jan 2, 2011

the cloner said:
thanks guys for all the help but as for cutting the tips i was told not to remove any leafs til they had
roots as the plants would try to repair the damage rather than concentrate on the root some now
have a tint of yellow on them think that this batch may fail gutted cos the mother is in flower now

Yellowing of leaves usually means the cutting is using nutrients to build roots.If shes standing leave her alone.ONLY MIST THE DOME.By day 5 you shouldnt need a dome at all.After 24 hours you should be removing the dome more and more each day.Starting at ten minutes a couple of times a day and if the plant starts to look weak wilted the spray the dome and put it back on the plant.When I 1st started taking cuttings I would kill them just by fucking with them too much.now I am patient and realize its going to take 7 days might as well do it right.

the cloner · Jan 2, 2011

hydrotech364 said:
Yellowing of leaves usually means the cutting is using nutrients to build roots.If shes standing leave her alone.ONLY MIST THE DOME.By day 5 you shouldnt need a dome at all.After 24 hours you should be removing the dome more and more each day.Starting at ten minutes a couple of times a day and if the plant starts to look weak wilted the spray the dome and put it back on the plant.When I 1st started taking cuttings I would kill them just by fucking with them too much.now I am patient and realize its going to take 7 days might as well do it right.

thanks for the info but like i said these are 2wks old now so is there still hope

the cloner · Jan 4, 2011

thanks for all the help ppl half of the clones now have roots
the rest shud follow soon ther abit yellow at the tops could they need any nutes
wot do you fink

Aussie5468 · May 22, 2011

I always hit them with 1/4 strength nutes as soon as the first roots appear

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