Clones: Good Genetics / Bad Conditions

highlander1

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I have a couple young plants that I've acquired, they come from really good genetics, but I haven't been very kind to them for the first month or so of their lives. Poor lighting/nutrients/watering all of it... almost total neglect aside from bare basic keeping them alive. I know... I'm sorry.

I know that these plants will definitely not be great producers because of the stress, but could I take clones and get my genetics back or will the environmental stress from the mother pass down to the clones? Should I just start over with new genetics?
 

jacksthc

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really I need to see a picture to give you the best advice

weed is a vey hard plant, you can cut it right back to a twig with half a leaf (clone), 4 weeks later could be 18" high and ready for flower
very hard to kill anless you over water, over feed the plants
 

Gbuddy

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really I need to see a picture to give you the best advice

weed is a vey hard plant, you can cut it right back to a twig with half a leaf (clone), 4 weeks later could be 18" high and ready for flower
very hard to kill anless you over water, over feed the plants
I fully agree with Jacksthc!

Peace
 

highlander1

Member
basically what I did was double down - I got my youngsters under appropriate lighting/food/ventilation but I went ahead and started germinating a few more seeds in case it goes south.

It hasn't even been 48 hours yet and I've already seen significant improvement in the new growth,
 

chained

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I straight up mistreated some of my seedlings and did some dumb shit, I thought one of them was dead and I just hadn't cleaned it out of the pot yet. I killed roots on it and everything. Playing around with pH, nutrients and watering and they've all come back, one is definitely lagging behind but not bad considering I thought it was dead and it did nothing for nearly a week, the other is now growing so fast it's so thick and bushy it hasn't got room for its own branches.

I don't have enough experience to know if this is indicative of weed itself, but from what I can tell as long as it's alive there's hope.
 

MammothGrow

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thanks for your quick reply, I'm hoping I can... but I dont want to waste my time/money if I would be better off starting back over from seed and get a better mother out of it.
I got a bunch of Afgoo clones once from Harborside that were off the chain, some of the biggest and dankest cola's I've done, 3-4" diameter buds 9-12" long. The mother got spider mites, defeated those, then I neglected it for awhile and had the soil all fucked up, plant was showing a few different deficiencies and was looking real rough, brought it back to good health and the next 3 crops that i did one tray of those they would grow big but all larfy bud. Same nutes, soil, etc as when it crushed it when I first got it. Maybe was just a fluke, but i felt like the genetics broke down or something, if thats possible.
 

GrowerGoneWild

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I know that these plants will definitely not be great producers because of the stress, but could I take clones and get my genetics back or will the environmental stress from the mother pass down to the clones? Should I just start over with new genetics?
Depends on the damage, try to use new growth areas that do not have damage to take clones from, I would never take a cutting that had visible signs of stress.. etc..

If anything, try selfing the clones (S1). I know i'm going to do this with a GSC cut I have. Shes getting a bit long in the tooth, and its the only way I can think of to keep the genetics mostly intact.
 

BobCajun

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The clones will be exactly the same as the original plant regardless of the environmental conditions the mother plant was grown in. Environmental conditions only alter genetics if the plants are seeding in the environment for several generations. Yours haven't seeded even once so there will be no difference. Cuttings might not root as well as from a healthy plant but I'm pretty sure they will root eventually under the right conditions.
 
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