clone wilring! 3rd day in humdi dome> more or less water?

(edited) comp errot before. My clones are in a clones dome. Heat mat, insert, perfet temp. humid meter broek, but tis wet. Three days old. Wilting has begun. I was wondering do you think i have to much water going on, to little water going on, to much heat, to little heat? Basically i was hoping someone could say what causes this. I did everything buy the book. No dark period though. I have not been able to find how long to take humid dome off each day. That could be problem.

Mostly i bwt its too wet. But the rw cubes are perfext weight. It could only be the heavy amount of water i sprayed the clones with. I direid the dome off and am watching. Help? please ty,

heat 30c
dome is on
only few minutes each day outa dome
3rd day in
40 watt cfl
no dark period
misting with water
h202 is used
just started getting bad though
ill rep for any help

bump, ahhhhhhhh i read all night. Did you know that al bfuxt has his clone essay on grass city. Ours is better, more insightful commentary. Hehe. . .

Wilting a little better but still a huge prob. I had the dome off for like 30 min. Matbe that did it. That a risky thing to do here right now. In the morning it freases and ony the little clone box is climate controlled.

I also have a seed sprouting in the clone box. I guess that should come out. Perfect there at least. Ghs feminsised cheese seed. Not 1 prob with germination.
Lol, Any adivce on cloning and wilting?

How do you handle your sprouts. I got a 6 week veg going with some nortern lights. Should I just through her in there. Prob not. A 400 watt mh. Maybe, on the edges of the table.

clones my wory now though.

the problem has gotten worse. I took the dome off and the tray insert off and just put the clones on a heat mat. They wilted in half hour. I put the humid dome back on with clones inside, they wilted while i was at work. I heavily misted and put for 6 hours of sleep. I wil check in morning. If they wilted or not better then its off to the dwc cloner they go. I

I had hoped to master rockwool. Dam.

any ideas i am quite crestfallen.

Did you follow Al. B fucts method to the T but with the hummid dome?----

Too hard to tell without some pics but sounds like they need some oxygen so like every 4 hours spray them and take off the dome for 1 min then wipe down all of the excess water then just spray it again with new water.....also if you have clone nutes (clonex sol.) that will help as well

i forgot to mention that i followed al b fucts essay to the letter and used olicias cloning gel. I did deviate in one area. I did not do the 6 hours of dark. I am trying that now. ty

I never do the dark period and i have 100% success rate.....Some people say it helps but I personally have never seen a difference!

Eharmony420 said:

i forgot to mention that i followed al b fucts essay to the letter and used olicias cloning gel. I did deviate in one area. I did not do the 6 hours of dark. I am trying that now. ty

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If you used the cloning dome from the start the 6 hours of dark would'nt make a difference----The gel would---As you read in Al's method--the powder forms a paste and holds to the rock-wool and stem but even that should make that much of a difference----when you took your clones did you put them in water soaking befor you stuck them? what was the h2o2% that you used?----did you soak the rockwool overnight and what was the ph of the rockwool when you used it? did you shake out all the soak water and add 28ml of h202 enriched water to the rockwool?

where did you go???---thought we we're going to fix you're problem...

I am here, i had to sleep. Work gets to some us non weed barons. Lol, guess what i have found at least one thing i think wrong. I gave the clones a 6 hour period of darkness. I just put them lights on and they are looking better! Well a few of them look to sick to make it.

However i checked some and the stems are brown. Not realy any rot just browning. I read that was too much water? Idk that one. I am not using the insert with the water layer underneath. I am just using the seed tray, the heat mat, and the dome. I took the dome off and the tray off and the clones wilted right off.

Maybe if i just take the dome off?

Also i was using a 42 watt cfl., so i switched it to a 26 watt cfl only this one is 2600. I hope it ok. A little less bright.

Any other suggestions? I could recut everybody. That will be hard as they are geting wuite short. Hehe. The brown is slight.

thank you so far for responses/

to answer von dank-

I presoaked the rockwool in 5.3 or so ph overnight. Then i allowed it to dry.

i made a clone watering solution of h202 and ro water and 1 drop superthrive a gallon. I used al's formula. I added though 1 drop superthrive. Ph 5.8/

I took the clone cut. Then i recut inderwater. I cut at 45 degrees and ,ade a slice up the stem. Then i dipped for 30 secs in olivias cloning gel. Then i planted.

Then i watered each cube with 20 grams of water by al's dipping method. Then I let her rip.

Still i got the drill and a rubbermaid ready to go dwc. I have has success doing that before. My ultimate medium for most of these girls was going to be 4 inch cubes though. I was hoping to get rw down.

I gues i can oack there roots if i have to into the 4 inchers, but lets hope this works.

as the hydro store suggested i cut some vents in my clone dome, i did this originally when i purchased. Maybe that is the problem. Maybe i should seal them shut.

Eharmony420 said:

as the hydro store suggested i cut some vents in my clone dome, i did this originally when i purchased. Maybe that is the problem. Maybe i should seal them shut.

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1. Seal them shut(your opening them once a day for a few mins)
2. Don't let the rockwool dry out----fill your container with water-----add 1 drop of superthrive per gallon or 5ml/gal of POWERTHRIVE ORGANIC W/B and ph the water to 5.0---then add your rockwool----let sit overnight(24hours)----pull rockwool out one at a time and shake/snap excess water out of rockwool---I use a salad spinner after that---then you can take a 1/2 gallon of the water that the rockwool was soaking in and add your h202 to that---if you are using 35%h202 it's 1.7ml/liter.---I then add tap water till I hit 250 ppm's then ph to 6.3 for soil or 5.8 for hydro-you then add 28ml of this solution to the cube---then--- cut------dip-------stick-----put your cutting in the tray--cover with humm dome and set on heat matt at 80 to 83 deg. When you take the hummidity dome off just spray the inside of the dome--not the plants---replace dome and don't touch till the next day---do this for 5 days then remove the dome for good---at this point mist the clones often and check for roots at day 7---most will root by day 14.-----I like to use powerthrive organic w/B at a rate of 5ml/gal as my rockwool soak.

Excellent advice, reps. I assume this is 24 hour light? I read somewhere else that misting the dome and not the plants was a good idea.

well up date.

They were doing fine. Humidome, holes closed, misting reg. So i read hou to let them get some air, of more than the few min variety.

I read in 2 posts that after the third day let the dome rise like a few inchs until the fifth day take it all the way off.

Nit a good idea for me or at least it makes more sense when i read another post where it was stated to only do that after they roots and you could see some growth.

Lol, they wilted again. SO i moisted everything, then went lights out for 6 hours. I am sure they will be better.

worrried now about hermies. This is 2 nights with 18/6. I not wooried about that or going back to 24/0 but i put them on 18/6 this time 4 hours after I did it the night before. Thats is a little irregular. I hope not to do it again.

I did the dumbest mistake and jumped too a conclusion. Well i read several posts but i missed some crucial evidence and was wrong. Feels like I lost all my money at a casino. Lol, ow ow.

WSO back to humidome, misting the lid, 30c heat mat and air temp. Hope for the best.

Eharmony420 said:

Excellent advice, reps. I assume this is 24 hour light? I read somewhere else that misting the dome and not the plants was a good idea.

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Yes 24 hours---when you take the lid off at day 5 you will have to mist often and sometimes add h202 enriched water to the cubes( this all depends on the humidity of the room as well.---the reason your clones are wilting so fast is that the rock wool is close to dry--The rock wool needs a happy medium--not to wet/not to dry. I would stop the light fluctuation--it will cause stress and possible hermi tendencies---just keep the light on 24----what is the wattage of the flou's you are using and how close are they to the dome----cuttings only need minimal light and can do very well if the light is a foot or 2 above the dome.

Fuck, i just wrote a full page. It was mysteriously deleted. rofl, i shit you not. Well i cant type that again.

the sum.

you are right. it was too dry. I have wetted them again by dunking and letting some but not all the bubbles escape. I checked a few and no stem rot.

I had the sa,e problem trying to learn to germ in rw, too dry. I got that down so i fig I get the rest like cloning also.

I love rockwool, i wanna master it. It takes such good care of the plant.

I am using a 26 watt ref 2600 cfl. I know, 6500k, but the only other 6500 cfl i got is 42 watts. I gotta go to store, lol.

Res change a i put the donor plants for their first feeding in flower tonight. Nice lookers.

Thanks to riu I might save my clones.

I was much more thankful in my first deleted post. Almost poetic. hehe

i read that clones only need to be reminded to grow, so i use a tiny light.

soak rockwool overnight? wtf? ive always just saturated the cube right before inserting the cutting and i have had 100% success rate... stick it right under the T5 and bam... roots in a week or less =X