clone stem and leaf changing color

here is my clone, im growing it indoors under cfl's. the stem is changing color near the top and the bottom leafs are changing colors too. I had it in water for 3 days then i planted it in soil even though there was lo leafs. Will this clone survive?


the clone:

The stem changing color:

Bottom leafs:

did you cut the bottom of the stem on a 45 degree angle ? Did you use any rooting gel or powder? If you did not then keep it pretty moist for two to three weeks and it should start to root ?? It looks pretty beat up though But good luck. You could also use a clear dixie cup upside down ontop of the plant to keep in needed moisture for about a week that helps because clones with no roots cannot transpire or collect any moisture on there own , the cup helps with this.

stoneymontana said:

did you cut the bottom of the stem on a 45 degree angle ? Did you use any rooting gel or powder? If you did not then keep it pretty moist for two to three weeks and it should start to root ?? It looks pretty beat up though But good luck. You could also use a clear dixie cup upside down ontop of the plant to keep in needed moisture for about a week that helps because clones with no roots cannot transpire or collect any moisture on there own , the cup helps with this.

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nah i didnt use and rooting gel or powder and i did cut it at a 45 d egree angle. and thx ill try with the cup

I like Shultz rooting powder that they have at Wal-mart, that is great stuff.

Have you been noticing any new growth on your clone? If it's making new growth that is a sign of life.

misshestermoffitt said:

I like Shultz rooting powder that they have at Wal-mart, that is great stuff.

Have you been noticing any new growth on your clone? If it's making new growth that is a sign of life.

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nope no new growth yet, instead of a plastic cup can i use a glass? if not then ill just go get some cups

misshestermoffitt said:

I like Shultz rooting powder that they have at Wal-mart, that is great stuff.

Have you been noticing any new growth on your clone? If it's making new growth that is a sign of life.

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That schultz take root is great stuff. That is all I use and it works everytime for me so far as long as you take the clones right!!

ALSO the cup will begin to get condensation on it then you know it is still alive

Just make sure no part of the plant is touching the cup on the inside. If it touches the side of the cup (the one over the top) it can cause rot. Make sure you check that a few times a day.

thx alot guys but would a regular transparent glass work instead of a cup?

50/50 chance, either it will or it won't.

Cloning powders work but gels seem to coat the stem better than the powders to me. Try this next time: Stores have this product called rapid rooter cubes. There made from decayed tree matter. I've heard that you can root a clone in willow tree water without anything else so I guess thats why this stuff works so good. You can get about a 100 for $20 if you buy the ones you gotta rip apart. Use Clonex gel. Cut at 45. Dip and stick. Cover with dome. No nutes, just distilled water. Spray with water 4 to 5 times a day. You should be ready to plant in 10 days or less.

Good luck either way!

thx ill try some rooting gel next time i clone

Blow4life, What do you mean by willow tree water? Like boil some of the inner bark and use that?

I havn't tried that but what the heck right! lol. I'm just saying that some natural things are there to help us already.

I read an article about that willow tree water thing before so thats what made me start using the rapid rooters. Before that I was a rockwool junky. Now you can't pay me to use that stuff, no offense to you rockwool guys out there. Anyways, there's something in the willow tree water that makes the clones root but the article was inconclusive because they didn't know what exactly made the clones root, they just new it was in willow water.

so what exactly is willow tree water, is it the name of the product?

Hester, willow bark teas are an old, old trick for getting cuttings, such as those from other trees, to root. Just gotta find a willow! Cut it up into pieces, I guess let it set overnight or such (someone posted to let the willow branches set in water til they sprout, then use that water), then use. Another one is aspirin.

Blow4Life said:

50/50 chance, either it will or it won't.

Cloning powders work but gels seem to coat the stem better than the powders to me. Try this next time: Stores have this product called rapid rooter cubes. There made from decayed tree matter. I've heard that you can root a clone in willow tree water without anything else so I guess thats why this stuff works so good. You can get about a 100 for $20 if you buy the ones you gotta rip apart. Use Clonex gel. Cut at 45. Dip and stick. Cover with dome. No nutes, just distilled water. Spray with water 4 to 5 times a day. You should be ready to plant in 10 days or less.

Good luck either way!

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Subcool uses those and I can't fucking find them! I found rockwool at the local garden center and they keep it in the back, gotta ask for it (I just realized, maybe I should get to know the ladies who own the place a little better, they carry all the FF stuff). Every time I've tried to root a cutting of mj without using rooting powder (I dipped in seaweed extract first, then shook it off, then dipped in powder) it wilts and dies in less than a day. That's sticking it in soil.

I haven't tried Honkeytown's method of growing the roots in bubbling water. But, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of using bubbling water EXCEPT for the transplanting to soil bit, as I've never been able to get any plant (not even pothos!) to make the transfer--they either live their lives in water, or they don't live.

i just made a dome out of a 2liter pepsi bottle and put it over the clone, just before i sprayed some water on it and it absorbed the water quikly so im guessing its still alive

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so what exactly is willow tree water, is it the name of the product?

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I just read the rest of the thread, sheesh, sorry. It's the salicylic acid that's where the compound that spurs rooting is contained.

I.. I lost my links. Here are some others, aren't as helpful though.
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/23809-couple-questions.html#post246373

According to this site, it's the willow's secretion of auxin that spurs rooting.
Willow as a rooting agent - Fine Gardening Question & Answer

Thanks seamaiden. Couldn't find all that tech info, to stoned!

Blow4Life said:

Thanks seamaiden. Couldn't find all that tech info, to stoned!

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Shit! Then it looks like I have some work to do...

how long ago did you plant this clone.... also remember that when it clones it will turn yellow when its rooting. It might take a couple days to a couple weeks especially since you didn't put the root powder or liquid on the stem first. keep watching it and remember sometimes it takes awhile. Good luck

I have a willow tree in my back yard, so I don't have to look to far.

Asprin would make sense too, so it is the inner bark that works. You can steep the inner bark of willow to make a home made remedy for aches and pains. It's asprin in it's natural state.