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TenEmies

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kgp said:
What Is tmv
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It's not even tmv but it looks like it. The real Chem d always has that odd pattern. Tmv is tobacco mosaic virus. Some believe it can effect cannabis. I thought it was tmv but more educated people corrected me.[/QUOTE]
Yup yellow veins beginning to end freaks people out but normal good sign this time real D
 
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greenghost420 said:
if you check out any clone thread, lemon g and deathstar are in demand and talked about frequently. once in a great while u see someone ask for dumpster. im not saying its not good but of the ohio clonelys it seems dumpster is the least liked. iv never tried it so i cant judge. have u had the deathstar?
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Queece said:
HAHAHAHAHA you ever see a properly grown GG4? You're an idiot.
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gg4 played anyway 4years ago got cut willing toss away someone wants to catch it feel free
 

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Queece said:
I took two pants down earlier than the rest, all looks pretty good, no keeper phenos or anything but it'll make for some good rosin. Why is it so hard to believe that someone is actually successful? The salt in this thread, wherever UncleBuck shows up, he brings a truck-load of crybabies with him. I've been outlining how I do it, read my posts and stop conjecturing and making value judgments about my character. That will not help you grow better medicine. Stop acting like morons and take someone's advice that knows what he's doing or continue to grow B- nugs.
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Ya yours little odd no foxtails swollen Caylx ...
 
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Queece

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You realize "clone only" is just regular breeding practice? You propagate via cutting. Check out picture number five on HGNW website's listing, and keep in mind, I wasn't doing a professional photo shoot. My light was also far more powerful than the one they were using, and I use a 11.3/12.7 cycle which brings out more phenotypical expressions than what a typical 12-12 will.

I'm going to make it a clone-only strain as soon as I take cuttings to a nursery, different people will grow the plant different ways, but having just rosined the first couple nugs for a few low-temp dabs, I can tell you it's top shelf. If you don't like foxtails, don't grow the plant with your light so close (mine was 8 inches away without burning, swag). I'll post some nug porn here as soon as I have the motivation, you gaiz gunna shiiit.

You gotta make F1 crosses man, don't put one version of a plant on a pedestal, that's not correct or scientific thinking. Why would I care to grow the same plant everyone else is? To have something to talk about with elitists? Clone only is absurd, if you only buy clones from a bank, you're missing out on a lot of really cool hybrids that are getting better and more stable every day. I've had genetics where I kept a cut of every pheno, all winners. Can't argue with results, I'm personally blown away by the quality of seeds anyone has available to them a few clicks away. We're living in a cannabis renaissance and I refuse to believe that "elite genetics" even exist.
 
mr sunshine

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Queece said:
You realize "clone only" is just regular breeding practice? You propagate via cutting. Check out picture number five on HGNW website's listing, and keep in mind, I wasn't doing a professional photo shoot. My light was also far more powerful than the one they were using, and I use a 11.3/12.7 cycle which brings out more phenotypical expressions than what a typical 12-12 will.

I'm going to make it a clone-only strain as soon as I take cuttings to a nursery, different people will grow the plant different ways, but having just rosined the first couple nugs for a few low-temp dabs, I can tell you it's top shelf. If you don't like foxtails, don't grow the plant with your light so close (mine was 8 inches away without burning, swag). I'll post some nug porn here as soon as I have the motivation, you gaiz gunna shiiit.

You gotta make F1 crosses man, don't put one version of a plant on a pedestal, that's not correct or scientific thinking. Why would I care to grow the same plant everyone else is? To have something to talk about with elitists? Clone only is absurd, if you only buy clones from a bank, you're missing out on a lot of really cool hybrids that are getting better and more stable every day. I've had genetics where I kept a cut of every pheno, all winners. Can't argue with results, I'm personally blown away by the quality of seeds anyone has available to them a few clicks away. We're living in a cannabis renaissance and I refuse to believe that "elite genetics" even exist.
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Wtf. Go home bro, you're drunk.
 
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Queece

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Do you guys not understand how clone-only works? I take clones from my pheno hunt to a nursery. You buy the clones. It's a clone-only strain. That's it. Most of you guys aren't even good enough at growing to notice strain differences. Take homies' gorilla glue up there. That looks like hot shit, look at all those single-leaf sets, anyone could tell you that plant is unhealthy. What does it matter that it's "Gorilla Glue #4"? You're not growing it properly, call it "clone-only elite genetics" all you want, I'm sure it could have been decent bud, but that's irrelevant.

Calling you out, that plant looks like shit, you don't know what you're doing and here you are trying to grill me. Get your mind right dudes.
 
Joedank

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Queece said:
Do you guys not understand how clone-only works? I take clones from my pheno hunt to a nursery. You buy the clones. It's a clone-only strain. That's it. Most of you guys aren't even good enough at growing to notice strain differences. Take homies' gorilla glue up there. That looks like hot shit, look at all those single-leaf sets, anyone could tell you that plant is unhealthy. What does it matter that it's "Gorilla Glue #4"? You're not growing it properly, call it "clone-only elite genetics" all you want, I'm sure it could have been decent bud, but that's irrelevant.

Calling you out, that plant looks like shit, you don't know what you're doing and here you are trying to grill me. Get your mind right dudes.
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i am here to learn so i apprecate you trying to share the knowlegge you think you have ....
single leaf sets have somthing to do with health?? do expound on this THEORY ...
i am under the assumption epigenetics plays a large role in this expression .
also weather the plant genetics want single leaf sets during flower . like all my haze and sour d crosses . i HAVE made f1's from the cuts i hold .need to find a homozygus male to breed them correctly ...
looks like you have osmotic pressure problems with your plants . what happened to much salt ?
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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IMO elite cuts have community approval and support, whether it be local or international, and a following.

These cuts get praise for a reason.

Cannabis has heterozygous genotypical expressions, you know as well as I do that pheno hunts are a lottery game with various odds.

Do you plant the seeds in the apples you eat in order to see if there is a better pheno than granny smith or red delicious? No, because the work has been done and besides, I like the specific flavor of the apples available at the market. Also, apples, like cannabis, have offspring which display heterozygousity. So, seeds from plant A may not resemble the parents at all...

Also, monocropping from seed is no fun...
 
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Queece

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Joedank said:
i am here to learn so i apprecate you trying to share the knowlegge you think you have ....
single leaf sets have somthing to do with health?? do expound on this THEORY ...
i am under the assumption epigenetics plays a large role in this expression .
also weather the plant genetics want single leaf sets during flower . like all my haze and sour d crosses . i HAVE made f1's from the cuts i hold .need to find a homozygus male to breed them correctly ...
looks like you have osmotic pressure problems with your plants . what happened to much salt ?
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I can grow any plant into a healthy, viable product. I keep all my runtiest plants on purpose, that's what my 5 week cookies came from. You have to realize that genetics (in general) are a relay race, not a sprint. Your "elite" genetics are just the guy that gets to cross the finish line, the other guys passing the baton are not bad at running. The only reason a breeder would value a clone-only cut is because of it's genetic potential in crosses. Who cares about the smoke? I have infinite weed in 20 different flavors, I doubt it'll blow my skirt up harder than anything else. Good weed to me is weed that's interesting to grow. Good weed scientifically is weed with specific terp profiles with cannabinoids, not the most exclusive cut in the room. Even if it looks bomb, I guarantee you, I can give you some absolute ditch-looking weed that'll hit you like a car crash.

My weed doesn't have osmotic problems, you wouldn't even know how to diagnose that, you aren't very good at growing yet but that won't stop you from learning more, don't think I'm being a dick. Plants turn colors at the end of flower whether you flush them or not, there is no basis to your claims. I run 750 ppm from seedling to flower, and took 4 years of chemistry at university, that isn't how osmosis works.

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Single leaf sets happen when a plant is trying to re-veg itself or is a result of stress. There are also two different kind of foxtails, one results from re-veg and stress, the other results from your lights being really intense and your light cycle being geared for phenotypical expression. These are facts man, you can pretend that years of compiled information on the science of cannabis doesn't exist, but the research has been done, the burden of proving you have a healthy plant with single-leaf lets is yours to bear.
 
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Queece

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a senile fungus said:
Also, monocropping from seed is no fun...
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Well, sometimes it is, here's a trick. When you do an f1 cross, you pretty much get a run of the same homogeneous plant, give or take some subtle phenotypical variations. Now, make an f2 and run those seeds. Shit goes nuts, you'll start seeing blueberries come out of land-races (this is how the blueberry line was worked). F1 sucks, it's like a video game though, there's always the boring tutorial level. F2 is where you have to be pretty nimble though, if something is going to be unstable, it'll be in the f2.
 
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