Odin*
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If they're calling it "OG Kush" and using that nomenclature to refer to an OG cross, then that would be accurate. If they call it "OG Kush" and believe that it is "pure" OG, then that is false.
Boom, there it is. It's not OG.
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If they're calling it "OG Kush" and using that nomenclature to refer to an OG cross, then that would be accurate. If they call it "OG Kush" and believe that it is "pure" OG, then that is false.
kgp
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Talking about orgnkid, I acquired a ghost cut from the early 90's. Throughout the years he lost the ghost cut but someone else have it back to him. A couple years back he re-released ghost to the public and my buddy got one. My old cut was much better, they were different cuts. The new one had bigger buds, and was less potent. You know these guys got to be internet celebrities because of cuts they were given. Many believe everything they say like their words are holy grail but my opinion is they are trying to hold on to every bit of stardom they can. The only one that seemed to keep it 100 is big Ricky. Just my opinion.
Afgan King
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kmog33
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I agree with this. And lol at the cornbread comment lol. I'm going to restate that I think it's fishy that orgnkid sources a cut 10 years prior to the "actual breeder" taking claim to it using the chemdawg/og bagseed story and slightly modifying it so it involved bubba as well.
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Odin*
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I was curious to see if the description for SFV OG matched the cut I had and found evidence of the "Kush" misnomer added to OG crosses on Leafly;
"Although their names are barely distinguishable, SFV OG Kush is actually the Afghani-crossed child to SFV OG."
The rest of the description describes small nugs for the "SFV OG Kush". Mine was large, big yielder, closer to Sour D. So, I had an "SFV OG Kush" (meaning it was an OG cross), but not the one described on Leafly (unless no one could get it right). Anyhow, there's proof of the old "Medicine Man's" sales tactic. (Can't believe I found solid info on Leafly)
"Although their names are barely distinguishable, SFV OG Kush is actually the Afghani-crossed child to SFV OG."
The rest of the description describes small nugs for the "SFV OG Kush". Mine was large, big yielder, closer to Sour D. So, I had an "SFV OG Kush" (meaning it was an OG cross), but not the one described on Leafly (unless no one could get it right). Anyhow, there's proof of the old "Medicine Man's" sales tactic. (Can't believe I found solid info on Leafly)
Afgan King
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Odin*
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@Afgan King I would love to get my hands on a cut. I had THE Sour D years ago. My own bro screwed that up, lost (SoB). If it were anyone else...
Again, those plants are beautiful, should be proud to have a number of good cuts. It took so many years and so many headaches for me to put together a decent "line up".
Keep on rockin' 'em.
Again, those plants are beautiful, should be proud to have a number of good cuts. It took so many years and so many headaches for me to put together a decent "line up".
Keep on rockin' 'em.
thump easy
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Just came from oregon i was visiting elephant extracts or sweet leaf an old friend he doing great things ARIE great guy man how time flips the script!! But on my way i was in washinton i had the quad dog its some FIRE FIRE ASS STRAIN I ALSO SEEN ALOT OF CLONES I AINT NEVOR HEARD OFF.. as i seen my old budy i felt inspired once again to out and grab some clones ill be their in a month from now i got to say the genetics do differ from place to place but that quad dog is fucken hella ripe!!! I can see some one place with that strain!!!!
kgp
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The problem with sfv is that there are so many cuts of it floating around. It got the hype. I've got monster yielding sfv from a couple clubs that were not sfv. A lot of times it's a seed stock from Cali connect.
akhiymjames
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Odin*
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Yup, whatever cross I had may have yielded, but it wasn't anything special. Didn't last too long in my garden.
I had a cut that was referred to as "OGiesel", but don't think it had any Sour Diesel, a "Sour OG" cut I had was better, but what I received had been exposed to a really bad mildew. It kept popping up, so I had to toss it to prevent spreading the infection.
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CannaBruh
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If I see someone say something about "rare" with regards to a cut that I know was being passed around ten years ago.... and the person saying it's "rare" holds the cut... you do realize that you can share right, and lots of others have done the same right??
You realize that the only thing driving this "rare" bullshit is unethical opportunists looking to make a buck off of this plant.
You realize that the only thing driving this "rare" bullshit is unethical opportunists looking to make a buck off of this plant.
kmog33
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Most of the times that's the case, but some cuts when they get passed to you, you are informed not to pass any out. So either you don't out of respect, or you do and probably burn a connect.
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CannaBruh
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Sure, how do any of us have any Chems if we are supposed to respect the wishes of the inner circle that couldn't do as much?
Don't want it out, don't share it, be that asshole... you don't want it shared don't give it to me, cause I'm passing that shit as far as I can reach. If I need to shut down or step away, when I come back, look at all those I helped that are now in a position and have a stable of the genetics that I let go.. neat concept.
kmog33
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Not every cut comes with the stipulation. But if I was gifted something from another grower and they asked me not to pass their cut out, I wouldn't. It was a much bigger thing 5-10 years ago when these cuts were going for thousands of dollars. A few cuts came with physical threats, DJ short blueberry in 2006-06 I remember for sure.
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CannaBruh
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Often times, those saying "don't pass this" are those that are benefiting monetarily directly from the fact that it is upper echelon and unobtanium.
Then those use this "witholding" tactic, ahem debeers, artificially inflating the value and worth, and driving prices and hype... ahem rezdog.
We'd be legal already if we quit raping each other with this plant. Give it away, help each other, quit being pretentious dicks about a fucking plant that came from a seed from a bud that was prolly in a bag.
Dj short gave away the parent stock, and rez tried to exploit that...anyone remember???
Be like DJ, not rez...
Then those use this "witholding" tactic, ahem debeers, artificially inflating the value and worth, and driving prices and hype... ahem rezdog.
We'd be legal already if we quit raping each other with this plant. Give it away, help each other, quit being pretentious dicks about a fucking plant that came from a seed from a bud that was prolly in a bag.
Dj short gave away the parent stock, and rez tried to exploit that...anyone remember???
Be like DJ, not rez...
kgp
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Just like any other business/hobby/occupation when it comes down to being the best you have to be a step ahead of the next man. Call me an asshole. If I spent years and thousands of dollars to acquire something that most can't get, I'm not whoring it out. It's mine and it didn't come easy. Supply and demand is a part of the world for all existence. If I gave it to any and everyone the price would drop, it wouldn't be rare, it wouldn't be special. This is what sets me apart from the others, this is the reason people make me their caregiver, this is the reason I'm successful.
I share many things, ask around the forums here and others. I've handed out free seeds, flowers, cuts of quality genetics, and plenty of buzz's and never ask a dollar.
I am far from cheap and always try and help anyone who needs help. But you can't get a couple cuts I have.
I've found the best way to acquire elite or rare cuts is by having some yourself. Trading is a great thing. That cut dude won't give out can be persuaded by an equally valued cut that he can't get. Win-win.
Just my opinion of coarse.
I share many things, ask around the forums here and others. I've handed out free seeds, flowers, cuts of quality genetics, and plenty of buzz's and never ask a dollar.
I am far from cheap and always try and help anyone who needs help. But you can't get a couple cuts I have.
I've found the best way to acquire elite or rare cuts is by having some yourself. Trading is a great thing. That cut dude won't give out can be persuaded by an equally valued cut that he can't get. Win-win.
Just my opinion of coarse.
Odin*
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It's the unethical opportunists that us farmers are trying to keep from attaining these girls. Sure, there are plenty of people that will treat a girl well and protect her integrity, but there are far more looking to blow up a warehouse and whore her out, robbing her of her dignity.
Even worse, the clubs/commercial growers will be pumping her full of paclo until the buds look like bloated pigs, then cover them top to bottom with E20 and a bunch of pesticides. It's the sad truth. I can't count the number of people that say "they (referring to club members) want paclo in there" and "I spray every week up to finish with E20 as preventative". Yes, I'm dead serious. This is the very reason I started growing. I wanted quality and I wanted to know what I was smoking. The elite cuts put out better than most out there even at mediocre level, so clubs can fill their shelves with paclo20 BS and all the rec holders will be eating that shit up. Happy with what they get, they won't see the value in growing their own, perpetuating the BS market.
Remove the elites from the hands of clubs/commercial growers/cash croppers and people will seek better. Unable to find anyone "selling" it, but someone willing to pass them a plant and share some knowledge (because there is "0" chance of this person becoming a cash cropper), this person will grow responsibly and hopefully share with like minded people. Sadly, greed tends to take hold, "paclo20" it is. Shit, "Paclo20" should be a strain. "Why's it called that?", because it's been pumped full of synthetic PGR's and every carcinogenic fungicide/pesticide known to man, and a few dropped here by aliens that want the human race exterminated.
Cuts will be passed more freely when the clubs and greedy are gone, the people that want good greens will grow their own or just get it from a close friend that does. Be careful who you pass your best to. They may be "cool", but what about their friend, or a friend's friend? Also, if an honest farmer gives you a cut and asks that you not pass it out because of the reasons above, I believe that is the honorable way to accept the cut, not "sure, I won't pass it out", then 6 months later, 2 people down the chain from you, she's getting whored out under 1,000 lights. If the farmer knew that, you would never have received it, not worthy of "carrying the torch". I'll share the cuts that are "out", GG4, GSC, Purple Kush, even the phenos I keep from my recent seed pop, but the "old" strains that were only given to me because I promised an old "green thumb" that I wouldn't whore her out, that's different. I have one person I trust enough to mentor and pass my entire collection to, and possibly my sons if they get into it when they're older (I don't want to steer their path or hobbies).
I want to ensure that everything I have lives on, but I would hate for them to be "abused" by the greedy. It's more than a hobby to me, very passionate about it.