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st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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akhiymjames said:
Oh yea for sure had to have it lol and bro you ain't lying my wife is the same. Sad part about it is I got her to smoking and just think I could be having all this to myself :lol: oh well :)
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Dr.D81 said:
Yea man I used to hustle growing up so I didn't smoke my self broke:eyesmoke:
Plus my wife is almost as bad as mebongsmilie
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Ditto, my old lady smokes like a chimney. I guess they gotta do their thing to put up with us bozos. :-)
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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I vape more on the weekends, I say about 4 grams for the weekend and .5 each weekday mon - fri so 6.5 a week. I vape just under a 1/4 oz a week. During the weekday I vape one maybe two bowls and each bowl holds .3 grams and that is to unwind after work. The weekend I like to wake and bake, have a vape after lunch and then one after dinner and maybe another in the late evening.

And my wife does not like cannabis at all and she doesn't care that I do so I guess lucky me.
 
giggles26

giggles26

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mdjenks said:
I vape more on the weekends, I say about 4 grams for the weekend and .5 each weekday mon - fri so 6.5 a week. I vape just under a 1/4 oz a week. During the weekday I vape one maybe two bowls and each bowl holds .3 grams and that is to unwind after work. The weekend I like to wake and bake, have a vape after lunch and then one after dinner and maybe another in the late evening.

And my wife does not like cannabis at all and she doesn't care that I do so I guess lucky me.
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Lucky you lol. My wife has to smoke or she has attacks, she has TS and a few other underlying conditions that pot helps too. So it's nice to be able to conserve with 2 people.

I feel ya though. I smoke more on the weekends lol.

On another note I'm getting ready to throw a HAOG into flower and transplanted a couple SCMK.
 
mdjenks

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shishkaboy said:
I need to step my game up I dont smoke nearly as much as you guys. I go through like 3-4 blunts a day at .5 each. Like 2 g's max. High and hungry all day tho.
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@shishkaboy: no you don't need to step your game up you're just fine, don't smoke all your herb man. And stop smoking damn blunts, you know that is tobacco right? smoke spliffs they are much better for you.


genuity said:
Smoking on some Obama kush & raspberry kush

Pics soon..

Very nice smoke on both,very nice.
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@genuity: I have read a lot about a lot of strains and the Obama Kush was one of them, does it live up to the hype?
it sounds very nice with (Skunk x Unkown) x (OG Kush x Afghani), seems like it would be great for chilling in the evening watching a movie or for a night cap. I'm guessing its damn near all indica. Huh, the Raspberry Kush has an unknown lineage but en.seedfinder says it is an indica. You OG and Kush heads on here crack me up with all those indica's. Don't get me wrong I love a good indica leaning hybrid like cherry pie but I love love a sativa leaning hybrid the most like Green Crack, Blue Dream, Chernobyl and Orange Crush
 
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mdjenks

mdjenks

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giggles26 said:
Lucky you lol. My wife has to smoke or she has attacks, she has TS and a few other underlying conditions that pot helps too. So it's nice to be able to conserve with 2 people.

I feel ya though. I smoke more on the weekends lol.

On another note I'm getting ready to throw a HAOG into flower and transplanted a couple SCMK.
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That sucks your wife has TS man but at least cannabis helps her with it. Does the cannabis work really good or just good enough and do different strains have better medicinal effects? Sorry for all the questions but my father has glaucoma and I give him a 1/4oz a week and it keeps the pressure down in his eyes. One time he was out of town for a month and didn't have any herbal meds and the pressure got so high in his eyes he couldn't close his eye lids all the way. He went to the doctor and they gave him some pills that had crazy side effects but he only had two days until he came home and I gave him some herb and 3 days later he went back to the doctor and his eye pressure was back to normal, i mean if that doesn't tell you something about the benefits of cannabis then you are f'ing retarded. The strain he likes the most and the one I gave him when his eyes got worse was blue dream so I try and keep that on hand for him.

Yeah I wish my wife knew the joys of smoking and it would be nice to light some candles and lay in bed listening to music and just conversing. We did once and she fell asleep.
 
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mdjenks

mdjenks

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mdjenks said:
Yeah I know Its the clone only thread but i like to throw out the vapes here and there. I can understand getting soar lungs from vaping especially from portables because that heated vape is going to hit your lungs and sometimes it can make you cough your ass off but it is still healthier than smoke even though cannabis smoke has never been proven to cause lung cancer or emphysema. So if you're getting the harsh vape hit from a portable just take smaller hits and over time your lungs will get use to it.

You would have no oil in your lungs due to the oil turning into vapor but i understand what you mean about having soar lungs, fuck me 10 grams is a lot to vape in one day, no fucking wonder you where having a problem, as the beastie boys say "slow and low".
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Shit I feel stupid I miss spelled the word Sore twice, damn stoner.....meaning me
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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Dr.D81 said:
Md I am a heavy smoker too and I can put 10g down a day man. It takes a lot to get me there and we are dieing waiting on a harvest. We smoked up 80% of 1100 watts of flower.
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Slow it down man or make you some shatter or wax or bubble. 10 grams is craziness!
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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mdjenks said:
That sucks your wife has TS man but at least cannabis helps her with it. Does the cannabis work really good or just good enough and do different strains have better medicinal effects? Sorry for all the questions but my father has glaucoma and I give him a 1/4oz a week and it keeps the pressure down in his eyes. One time he was out of town for a month and didn't have any herbal meds and the pressure got so high in his eyes he couldn't close his eye lids all the way. He went to the doctor and they gave him some pills that had crazy side effects but he only had two days until he came home and I gave him some herb and 3 days later he went back to the doctor and his eye pressure was back to normal, i mean if that doesn't tell you something about the benefits of cannabis then you are f'ing retarded. The strain he likes the most and the one I gave him when his eyes got worst was blue dream so I try and keep that on hand for him.
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Whoppi Goldberg smokes medical for glaucoma. I've known several people who smoke for that cause and it truly helps. Plus all the cases of kids not having seizures once they started taking CBD oil should have changed everyone's opinion but it's hard cus the government can't patent cannabis like they can medication so they don't want it. It's getting to the point tho where they can't say no cus of so many benefits
 
shishkaboy

shishkaboy

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akhiymjames said:
Whoppi Goldberg smokes medical for glaucoma. I've known several people who smoke for that cause and it truly helps. Plus all the cases of kids not having seizures once they started taking CBD oil should have changed everyone's opinion but it's hard cus the government can't patent cannabis like they can medication so they don't want it. It's getting to the point tho where they can't say no cus of so many benefits
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I am pretty sure there is a patent held by the gov. for mjs med uses.
But wait schedule one says no med uses.
So whats this?
patent number 6630507
Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants
Hmmm
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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akhiymjames said:
Whoppi Goldberg smokes medical for glaucoma. I've known several people who smoke for that cause and it truly helps. Plus all the cases of kids not having seizures once they started taking CBD oil should have changed everyone's opinion but it's hard cus the government can't patent cannabis like they can medication so they don't want it. It's getting to the point tho where they can't say no cus of so many benefits
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The government can't patent a plant unless it is a new plant never seen on earth so its impossible but they can patent a chemical like Marinol did with THC, the Government gave them a special 20 year patent where as all other companies get 10 year patents and the reason for that is so they can make their money back on research and development. I doubt the government/big pharm would patent CBD unless they see huge market for it but even with that said they cannot patent the plant itself, they can't patent the strains, and they can't stop the movement. Using cannabis works best when using the plant itself whether it is juiced whole or smoked, vaped, or eaten.
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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shishkaboy said:
I am pretty sure there is a patent held by the gov. for mjs med uses.
But wait schedule one says no med uses.
So whats this?
patent number 6630507
Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants
Hmmm
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yeah they can patent a chemical but when it comes to medical patents generally they only last for 10 years then other companies can start making generic versions like Vicodin had a patent and when it was up you saw hydrocodone everywhere because everybody could make it.

Its very complicated and I wouldn't even try and wrap your brain around it because most of it is boring as hell and hundreds of pages.
 
shishkaboy

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mdjenks said:
yeah they can patent a chemical but when it comes to medical patents generally they only last for 10 years then other companies can start making generic versions like Vicodin had a patent and when it was up you saw hydrocodone everywhere because everybody could make it.
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You prolly know more about it than I do. I just know that it was patented by the govt, at the same time as having no med use.
 
mdjenks

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shishkaboy said:
You prolly know more about it than I do. I just know that it was patented by the govt, at the same time as having no med use.
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yeah they did some tricky stuff during that time. I had a friend explain it to me in detail and should have had him type it up for me because i can't remember all the details.

here is some info:

It is a further requirement that the plant can be asexually reproduced.

This means reproduction by means other than seeds such as grafting, budding, layering or the rooting of cuttings.

A plant patent cannot be obtained for tuber-propagated plants.

If you've found a new plant variety by discovering it in nature, you cannot obtain a patent for it, unless you can asexually reproduce it and prove the variety is stable, uniform and "new".

A patent grants the plant breeder the exclusive right to gain financially from the new variety. It can be by producing and selling the plant, selling the rights to breeding the plant or by receiving royalties from sales made by someone else.

Note: Once someone has duly bought a plant, no royalties are payable on the crop it may produce.

They can also use the seed for growing another crop without further payment of royalties.

The lifespan of a plant patent is about 20 years and applications are made through

this line is what saves us: If you've found a new plant variety by discovering it in nature, you cannot obtain a patent for it, unless you can asexually reproduce it and prove the variety is stable, uniform and "new".

Since cannabis has always been around and cannot asexually reproduce a stable strain that means cannabis itself cannot be patented.
 
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genuity

genuity

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mdjenks said:
@shishkaboy: no you don't need to step your game up you're just fine, don't smoke all your herb man.




@genuity: I have read a lot about a lot of strains and the Obama Kush was one of them, does it live up to the hype?
it sounds very nice with (Skunk x Unkown) x (OG Kush x Afghani), seems like it would be great for chilling in the evening watching a movie or for a night cap. I'm guessing its damn near all indica. Huh, the Raspberry Kush has an unknown lineage but en.seedfinder says it is an indica. You OG and Kush heads on here crack me up with all those indica's. Don't get me wrong I love a good indica leaning hybrid like cherry pie but I love love a sativa leaning hybrid the most like Green Crack, Blue Dream, Chernobyl and Orange Crush
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This stuff still needs a few weeks cure..
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But I will put up a lil smoke report,after I eat..^^^obama kush
 
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