Clone only strains

mdjenks

mdjenks

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Yodaweed said:
That is the whole problem, is the space and time worth the effort and money you will be putting in to crossing back and forth these genetics? It's going to take years to do and a shit load of effort before you get to F7's. There is going to be a huge process of popping seeds to get the best breeding stock. We need a real breeder someone who only does this to take the time to do it.For people that grow from home as a hobby it's not worth it to us.
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http://news.marijuana.com/strains/ogkushbreath-girl-scout-cookies/

Looks like OGKB and the CookieFam are in it together.
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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giggles26 said:
When did I ever say there was no breeders in Boulder?

Pretty sure I said the breeders with the goat I knew weren't in Boulder. I know plenty of them from Boulder.
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My bad must have miss read.

I took this statement you posted as there where no real breeders in boulder.

"Oh and I'm not talking about any breeders from Boulder either. The people I'm talking about are real breeders."
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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mdjenks said:
http://news.marijuana.com/strains/ogkushbreath-girl-scout-cookies/

Looks like OGKB and the CookieFam are in it together.
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I think I've stated this before. That's how he(OGKushBreath) got the cut. Supposedly help the Cookie Fam rescue an operation and they gave him the cut which took on his handle since he was the only one at that time to have it. With him being on ICMag and I guess people being cool with him the cut got passed around so there are people with it and breeders have it too. You just don't see it being passed out like GG#4. Prolly never will be. If you see the pics of OGKB on Instagram you can see why it's held so tightly. Supposed to be the most potent highest yielding cookie cut out there. Would love to have her maybe one day I can source it
 
kgp

kgp

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akhiymjames said:
I think I've stated this before. That's how he(OGKushBreath) got the cut. Supposedly help the Cookie Fam rescue an operation and they gave him the cut which took on his handle since he was the only one at that time to have it. With him being on ICMag and I guess people being cool with him the cut got passed around so there are people with it and breeders have it too. You just don't see it being passed out like GG#4. Prolly never will be. If you see the pics of OGKB on Instagram you can see why it's held so tightly. Supposed to be the most potent highest yielding cookie cut out there. Would love to have her maybe one day I can source it
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No doubt it's good, but man that veg just really turns me off. If you have to veg 4-6 months to get a plant 3-4 feet tall, then flower it for another 60~ days you'd be lucky to get 2 crops a year which in turn would lower production. I just don't see why that's so appealing even if he smoke it top notch.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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kgp said:
No doubt it's good, but man that veg just really turns me off. If you have to veg 4-6 months to get a plant 3-4 feet tall, then flower it for another 60~ days you'd be lucky to get 2 crops a year which in turn would lower production. I just don't see why that's so appealing even if he smoke it top notch.
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Yea I feel you on that. That would be the only thing I would hate about it but if I did have it to run I would run hydro with it and use the Cyco nutes. I think the XL treatment would help her stretch much faster. That's why I thought the cut I had is OGKB cus it fits the description to the tee. Slow as veg looks structure but the buds is the difference. Still have a week or so on Karmas so we shall she what hers look like fully done
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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akhiymjames said:
It can be done with way less seeds. There's a formula I saw reading about furthering lines and if you can get the best representations if can be done with less than 50 seeds per generation. I would love to see someone work OG to seed form tho
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Breeding is all about numbers, which sucks for all us small time personal growers, we are not breeders we cant pop 1000 seeds then select from there we select from usually a pack or less of seeds. If the lines were worked down more we could select from fewer seeds and get more keepers from those selections. It's making popping seeds for people with the ability to get clones less and less appealing. Why pop 12 seeds and waste my whole grow space when I know if I run clones of something in that space I will get a great crop? I know a dispensary that popped 200 seeds to find 1 keeper phenotype, i cant do that. It would be worth it if keepers could be nearly guaranteed but when you pop 12 seeds, spend 4 months growing them to find out you have nothing to show for it , it can get very agitating and frustrating.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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Yodaweed said:
Breeding is all about numbers, which sucks for all us small time personal growers, we are not breeders we cant pop 1000 seeds then select from there we select from usually a pack or less of seeds. If the lines were worked down more we could select from fewer seeds and get more keepers from those selections. It's making popping seeds for people with the ability to get clones less and less appealing. Why pop 12 seeds and waste my whole grow space when I know if I run clones of something in that space I will get a great crop? I know a dispensary that popped 200 seeds to find 1 keeper phenotype, i cant do that. It would be worth it if keepers could be nearly guaranteed but when you pop 12 seeds, spend 4 months growing them to find out you have nothing to show for it , it can get very agitating and frustrating.
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I feel you all the way bro and that way would be best but for a grower like me I do it for the love of growing and hoping to find something good. Yes clones are more appealing but all people can't grow clones so seeds is the way to go. Popping seeds unless it's a worked line is always crapshoot that's what makes it so interesting. Plus that's why you have to get gear from good breeders looks Bodhi and a few others as you will get something good out the pack may not be the best keeper but will be something good. Popping seeds is never a waste for me cus I don't grow for patients, for major yield, or to sell so this is all in the love for me but I totally overstand where you coming from. I love cuts of great strains now that I've been able to acquire some but I'll always pop seeds cus as kgp said all these great clones come from seed at one point so if no one pop seeds won't be anymore clone only elites
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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akhiymjames said:
I feel you all the way bro and that way would be best but for a grower like me I do it for the love of growing and hoping to find something good. Yes clones are more appealing but all people can't grow clones so seeds is the way to go. Popping seeds unless it's a worked line is always crapshoot that's what makes it so interesting. Plus that's why you have to get gear from good breeders looks Bodhi and a few others as you will get something good out the pack may not be the best keeper but will be something good. Popping seeds is never a waste for me cus I don't grow for patients, for major yield, or to sell so this is all in the love for me but I totally overstand where you coming from. I love cuts of great strains now that I've been able to acquire some but I'll always pop seeds cus as kgp said all these great clones come from seed at one point so if no one pop seeds won't be anymore clone only elites
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Yep there's always a clone only possibility to be had in every pack, but sometimes it's just better to do what works the best to get the best meds you can for yourself, running with seeds over and over hoping to find a keeper isn't for everyone. I know I can only do a run or two of seeds before having to do a run of clones. I hope I get a good male plant that I can collect some pollen from and make my own polyhybrids because I know where to get some good females and never made seeds before so i'm excited.
 
shishkaboy

shishkaboy

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Yodaweed said:
Yep there's always a clone only possibility to be had in every pack, but sometimes it's just better to do what works the best to get the best meds you can for yourself, running with seeds over and over hoping to find a keeper isn't for everyone. I know I can only do a run or two of seeds before having to do a run of clones. I hope I get a good male plant that I can collect some pollen from and make my own polyhybrids because I know where to get some good females and never made seeds before so i'm excited.
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Guys like me cant just keep placing orders for seeds. Its just not worth the risk. So I make my own crosses and backcrosses, I know I am not a "breeder" but I love the plant and really care about its evolution. I just try to create something better than the parents. If not I dont keep it

With the current legal battle around mj I think breeding must be done with smaller numbers, but it will take way longer.

.The way I see it there are not many landraces still pure out there. In order to get a true f1 you would have to have 2 true breeding strains, then the offspring will be a 50/50 mix, but since most of the parental stock has not already been stabilized, it just be comes a pot genetic stew. Where some bowls are way better then other bowls of soup. Imo, there are different ways to evolve the plants.

Hybrids lead to knew terps/flavors and chemical compounds, but once those traits are located, there should be someone that is trying to stabilize those characteristics in seed form.

We all want the same thing, so just do your part.

Not directed specifically at you Yoda, but this is just the post I replied to.
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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akhiymjames said:
I think I've stated this before. That's how he(OGKushBreath) got the cut. Supposedly help the Cookie Fam rescue an operation and they gave him the cut which took on his handle since he was the only one at that time to have it. With him being on ICMag and I guess people being cool with him the cut got passed around so there are people with it and breeders have it too. You just don't see it being passed out like GG#4. Prolly never will be. If you see the pics of OGKB on Instagram you can see why it's held so tightly. Supposed to be the most potent highest yielding cookie cut out there. Would love to have her maybe one day I can source it
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Yeah you did man, I just posted that link I found
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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mdjenks said:
Yeah you did man, I just posted that link I found
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I wasn't saying it to be I said it first I just thought I did. Hell we talk about so much and lots of the same topics in other threads so it's hard for me to remember what I said and what thread I said it in. I'll see is I can find any new info from them
 
giggles26

giggles26

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kgp said:
No doubt it's good, but man that veg just really turns me off. If you have to veg 4-6 months to get a plant 3-4 feet tall, then flower it for another 60~ days you'd be lucky to get 2 crops a year which in turn would lower production. I just don't see why that's so appealing even if he smoke it top notch.
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I see it really as more of like a novelty really, sure the veg sucks and all but the hash she makes is amazing. I would in no way run an entire run of her, but if you have the room then I don't see the problem with having her in there. Like with my setup I'm running perpetual so I'm always running different things.

I'm weird and collect strains, I'm like a hoarder....

Well I'm sure there is others like me but ya lol, sorry I'm baked....
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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giggles26 said:
I love me some fucking Shortbread, I don't give a shit what anyone says.

Oh ya and thin mints and carmel delites lol, fuck me I'm hungry now....
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Do Si Dos and Thin Mints are my favorite. Now talk for me wanting some lol. It's a good thing when your mom in law work for Girl Scouts. I get boxes of them every year and get them when they're not in season
 
genuity

genuity

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mdjenks said:
this is the cut I want more than any other cut out in the world!!!!!

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ABC Bakers
Little Brownie Bakers

Thin Mints
Richer, smoother chocolate coating; distinct peppermint taste


Thin Mints
Crunchier, with more mint than chocolate in each bite


$0.16
40
1.8g
2.8g
0.5g
COST*
CALORIES
TOTAL FAT
SUGAR
PROTEIN
$0.16
40
2.0g
2.5g
0.3g



Samoas
Heavier caramel layer, darker chocolate coating, more toasted coconut


Caramel deLites
More cookie than caramel, milkier chocolate; cookie has vanilla flavor


$0.31
65
3.0g
6.0g
0.5g
COST*
CALORIES
TOTAL FAT
SUGAR
PROTEIN

Ok...back to clone only
My bad.
 
giggles26

giggles26

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akhiymjames said:
Do Si Dos and Thin Mints are my favorite. Now talk for me wanting some lol. It's a good thing when your mom in law work for Girl Scouts. I get boxes of them every year and get them when they're not in season
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genuity said:
ABC Bakers
Little Brownie Bakers

Thin Mints
Richer, smoother chocolate coating; distinct peppermint taste


Thin Mints
Crunchier, with more mint than chocolate in each bite


$0.16
40
1.8g
2.8g
0.5g
COST*
CALORIES
TOTAL FAT
SUGAR
PROTEIN
$0.16
40
2.0g
2.5g
0.3g



Samoas
Heavier caramel layer, darker chocolate coating, more toasted coconut


Caramel deLites
More cookie than caramel, milkier chocolate; cookie has vanilla flavor


$0.31
65
3.0g
6.0g
0.5g
COST*
CALORIES
TOTAL FAT
SUGAR
PROTEIN

Ok...back to clone only
My bad.
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Haha holy fuck I'm out here like hey girl scout sell me some fucking cookies!

Thank god my niece is in the girl scouts haha!
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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akhiymjames said:
I wasn't saying it to be I said it first I just thought I did. Hell we talk about so much and lots of the same topics in other threads so it's hard for me to remember what I said and what thread I said it in. I'll see is I can find any new info from them
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Ah I know man its all good, I know your chill and not one to be a dick.

I guess CookiesSF and Treemed dispensary are affiliated, I know CookiesSF is working on a website cause it says it is under constructions but check out their current menu for all you bay area folk on the thread, they even have the forum cut along with the CookieFams Sunset Sherbert

https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/treemed

It is hard as fuck to get cotton candy, I have been trying to get it forever and the beans are always sold out and so are the flowers, fuck I wish I knew about this place before I moved! And a hundred an oz, I would have bought 3oz of cotton candy
 
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