Clone Killer needs help

Quickset

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I have 2 plants (greenhouse cheese fem) that I was keeping as mother plants but now I want to start them flowering so I can get some bud going. I've recently taken 6 clones from them but they've all fallen flat after 7-8 days time. The last that died I had put in a warm place (on top of my gas cooking stove) and it really perked up so I'm thinking it's due to the cuttings just not being warm enough. As it was in the way, I moved the last plant to another room where it soon died.

All cuttings were kept moist cuttings but due to insufficient heat seem to have succumbed to infection easily. In line with the RIU FAQ on cloning, I cut all stems at 45 degrees with a sterile knife, dipped them in water, then into rooting powder, then put them straight into soil. I used ocean forest soil in 1 quart containers to put them into having nothing else on hand as a growing medium. I was hoping those that developed roots would simple continue to grow in the 1 quart containers. All cuttings then went into a styrofoam insulated cooler with a plastic bag placed over them and kept at room temperature that ranged from 65-70F.

I'm going to take cuttings one more time soon before switching the would-be-mothers over to the 12/12 flower cycle. If these cutting fail also I'll just grow from seed again (3 seeds remaining) but would prefer to have the cuttings succeed. A heating pad/mat placed in the insulated cooler is probably in order here.

In the RIU FAQ I read of one person who put his cuttings into water and rooted them there with success. I may likewise try this but would like to hear people’s opinions on the matter.

Any/all advice is appreciated. Thanks!!!

QS

 

Quickset

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Took clones and started mothers flowering. Recycled aluminum cooking pans used as support for plants suspended over shallow bowls filled with clorinated tap water. Holes made in aluminum supports to allow plant stems to be inserted to reach the water below. Whatever else I did ....

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Eharmony420

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you got roots! Let more of them grwo til they have hairs. good idea would be to through an airstone in that water and a drop of superthrive found at home depot. You will get a lot more success. I cant comment on the chloirne except that i heard that a no no unless u afraid of rot. I read albfuct essay on clones in rw and have got it all set up to go for about 40 bucks. That s with shipping. Howver the first time I cloned i used a coffe can with holes in it and an airstone and i got 100 percent success. I planted when the roots had hairs and roots on roots. Wait a while you will see how incredible they get.
 

Quickset

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Hi E420.

Yes I'm letting them grow till they're loaded with hairy roots. I've read that one shouldn't watering plants with clorinated water. Here clorinated water is used to help keep the plant free of infection & decay while the roots are developing.

An airstone's a good idea. I wouldn't change the water as often as I do now. Have to do some homework on the superthrive product.

Thanks for commenting!

QS
 

dmoneysaver

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airstones hmmm did you try a big hydroponic setup? Like if you want max roots you need max room and supps.
 

Quickset

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Yes bigger is better but I don't need or want a big hydro setup. I'm simply tying to root a few cuttings in water.

An airstone would save me the task of changing water that's sitting in 3 shallow bowls I'm using to root some cuttings in. I need this setup for a short time while the roots fill in before transplanting the cuttings into soil.

By the time I get around to purchasing a pump, airstone & tubing, the cuttings will be in soil anyway so I'm passing on using an airstone for now. The airstone idea is a good one I'll use the next time around (early spring 09 maybe).
 

DivinePower

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I did the same thing as you except I used rockwool and used cloning gel vs the powder but it all works the same from what I hear.

I put them inside a big rubbermaid bin with two two foot tubes mounted to the lid. Put those on 24/0. Misted 2-4 times a day to keep the humidity up... 10 days later I was transplanting to soil because the roots were busting out of the rockwool.

I'm a newb, never done this before - and got 100% success out of it. I would get some rockwool for more O2 to your root zone, make sure you have a bin to keep them in that can be covered so you humidity stays high... keep the temps up... and stop worrying so much.

I thought I wasn't going to get a single one to survive going into it and reading of all the stories on here and how hard it can be. Just use your head, and dont over complicate things.. you'll be fine!

Just my two cents.
 

Busmike

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I clone all the time. I've found that I need to put the fresh cuttings in water and leave them there for a day or 2 before dipping them in rooting gel and planting them.

Try that.
 

Quickset

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Hi DP,

I believe that in my case it simply was the lack of heat (plants were trying to grow in low 60s F temps) that lead to the demise of my first round of cuttings. I stuck to all directions for cloning except for the heating requirement.

This time around I took cuttings before putting the mothers into the flower cycle and decided to try rooting the cuttings in water. First night they were on a radiator and then moved into my veg box to get needed light and heat (temps around 80F). So far so good. The pics below should tell the story. I cover the styrofoam container with a somewhat translucent plastic tray which diffuses the 24/0 light the cuttings are receiving. It's as easy as pie! :weed: Thanks for your thoughts !!!

I like Busmike's method of soaking 2 days then dipping into rooting gel (Hey Mike! :bigjoint:). I read elsewhere of someone doing similarly. The clorinated tap water helps to disinfect the cuttings before they're put elsewhere (soil/hydro).
 

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DivinePower

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Sounds good dood, let us know how it turns out. Since your doing it in water, did you put an airstone in there? Sorry if I missed it.
 

Quickset

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No airstone for this batch, relying on a fresh change of tap water every few days for now. Will do so for future batches! I'll post results be they good or bad so people can learn from my trial and error.

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QS:leaf:
 
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