??? clone from a clone, clone, clone, clone...how long ???

i would like to hear from those that use this method...

how long have you been doing this ?

do you notice any decrease in potenecy or growth ?

pros and cons....PLEASE.

all others if you have any good thoughts or have read any good reads on this please chime in.

i will give my thoughts after i hear from some of the growers that have tried this method.

It worked. There is a paragraph that says you lose genetic info cloning the clones from the clones which were cloned from clones. Or something like that. Hope this helps.

GreenHog said:

It worked. There is a paragraph that says you lose genetic info cloning the clones from the clones which were cloned from clones. Or something like that. Hope this helps.

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thank you, anyone else ????

i would think it would be like any cloning or insested item the more of the same "blood" that is reproduced over and over and over again start to cause some defects and such. just think of your plants as humans and you have a better thought of what i am say here.

i dont believe it has any thing to do with insest ??? it is simply cloning. if a clone is the same as the mother plant then where does it break down ?

clone only starins come from clones from clones form clones form clones from clones from clones......... nothing wrong with any of them.


Clone Only Cultivars

• 35 Day
• 84 University of Washington Hashplant
• 85 Oregon 4-way
• Accidental Haze
• Aeric 77 Cali-O
• Airborne G-13
• Afgooey
• Albert Walker
• Aloha 98 WW
• Arcata Trainwreck
• Arcata Wreck
• Backstage
• Banana / Bonanno / Bwananna
• BC Hash Plant
• Berks
• Big Blue Dump Truck
• Big Sur Holyweed
• Blackberry
• Blowfish
• Blue Mountain Jamacian
• Blue Dot (old)
• Blue Dot (new)
• Blue Velvet
• Blueberry Sativa
• BR - 13
• Bubba Kush
• Bubba Kush pre-2001
• Bubba Kush mint
• Bubble Gum
• Bullrider
• Cafe Girl
• Cali-O Sativa
• Catpiss
• Champagne
• Cheese
• Chem. (same as dawg)
• Chemo
• Cherry Bomb
• Cherry Slyder
• Coral Reef
• Corn
• Chocolate Thai
• Chocolate trip
• Cotton Candy Kush
• Cough #1
• Cough #2
• Crazy Train
• Cuddlefish Hash Plant
• Cush, (same as green crack)
• Dabney Blue
• Dank Ass Bitch
• Dawg (same as chem.)
• DHK’s Black Domina
• Diesel, Original
• DOG
• Dogshit
• Dumpster
• Durban Thai Highflier
• Elvis
• Emerald Triangle
• G-13
• Garlic
• Ginger Ale
• Genius
• Gilgarj
• GOD
• Golden Goat
• Golden haze
• Grandaddy Purple
• Grape Ape
• Grapefruit
• Gravity
• Green Crack, (same as Cush)
• Grimm White Widow
• Hash Plant #1
• Hawaiian Webbed Indica
• Herijuana (aka Hero)
• High Octane
• Hogsbreath
• HP13
• Humbolt snow
• Jacki-O
• Jacks cleaner
• Jedi
• Killer Queen
• Kings Kross (King Kush)
• Kong
• Kryptonite
• Krystal Spike
• Lemon Bomb
• Lemon G
• Lemonaid
• M-39
• Manic
• Mango
• Mass. Super Skunk
• Matanuska Thunderfuck
• Millies
• Mother Ship
• MSM’s Mr. Nice
• Norcal Cript
• OG Kush
• Old Blue
• Orange Bud
• Orange Friesland
• Oregon Funk
• Oregon Purple Thai
• Ortega
• P91
• Pacific G-13
• Pez
• Pineapple Thai
• Pine Bud
• Pink Kush
• Princess
• Pukeberry
• Pure Kush
• Purple Indica
• Purple Kush
• Purple Urkle/urple
• Rene
• Romulan (Pine Pheno)
• Romulan (Grape Pheno)
• Schrom
• Sharon
• Skunk #2
• Socal BubbleberrySocal G-13
• SoQuicks AK99
• Sour Diesel
• Sour Kush
• Spirit of 76
• Squirt
• Stella Blue
• Strawberry Cough
• Strawberry Fields
• Superfruit
• Super Funk
• Sweet Skunk
• Tarantula
• Tashenk
• Terminator
• Texada Timewarp (Twister)
• The Purps aka Mendocino Purple
• Trainwreck, E-32
• Trainwreck, nor cali pine
• Trinity
• Ultraviolet
• UW
• Vision Thai
• West Coast Nice
• Wheel Chair
• Williams Wonde

all those are clone only?

thanks for the info FDD.

i grow in one gallon pots and for me to keep moms was just taking up to much room in the veg/clone closet. also moms dont last long vegging in a 1 gallon pots before starting to get root bound, then having to send them to flower this way was not working to good. so now what i do is clone the clone from the original mom that is just about ready for flower...taking 2 cuttings from each. this way im ready for the next round with out having to keep moms veging. i have been doing this for over 9 months with no problems what so ever in decrease of potency or growth...hope this makes sense to others. i had the same thoughts as FDD from the start. just wanted others to chime in..

anyone else ??? ......thanks FDD again.

ORECAL said:

all those are clone only?

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some of them have been bred with something else to create seeds but they all originated from clone only. a lot of them are still only clone only. we have several locals strains that have been around for years that i have never seen anywhere else. these are clone only as well.


it's all bullsh*t.

i just trimmed these yesterday from a clone from a clone and so on...from a original PAPAYA that i kept, about a year now. it looks better from the first grow i did with this strain.

you can look at these and other clones that i grow updated on PAGE 20-23 of my journal in my sig.

BIGMIKE13 said:

thanks for the info FDD.

i grow in one gallon pots and for me to keep moms was just taking up to much room in the veg/clone closet. also moms dont last long vegging in a 1 gallon pots before starting to get root bound, then having to send them to flower this way was not working to good. so now what i do is clone the clone from the original mom that is just about ready for flower...taking 2 cuttings from each. this way im ready for the next round with out having to keep moms veging. i have been doing this for over 9 months with no problems what so ever in decrease of potency or growth...hope this makes sense to others. i had the same thoughts as FDD from the start. just wanted others to chime in..

anyone else ??? ......thanks FDD again.

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a friend used this method for 3 years..."cloning the clone"... I thought it was working fine.. a few others in the inner circle claimed the strain had lost "something"....

me personally, never kept a mother in my life... NEVER

BUT i have seen some fine looking MOTHERS...

iloveyou

Garden Knowm said:

a friend used this method for 3 years..."cloning the clone"... I thought it was working fine.. a few others in the inner circle claimed the strain had lost "something"....

me personally, never kept a mother in my life... NEVER

BUT i have seen some fine looking MOTHERS...

iloveyou

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i love all MOMS...

next update in two years... thanks for sharing the info GARDEN KNOWM.

thought i would bump this for others.

what is dhk's black domina i am growing b.domina clones and wonder if it is the clone only you had mentioned the one i have stays short and grows many dense crystal covered buds. have you had p-91 i here it is mostly in san diego have you had it ive heard it can be good thanks

When i was working a g-13 strain at the beginning of 2k we would use one mother for about a year then put her outdoors with some of the other plants. that way we never saw too much degration of the strain this went on for several years and we never saw any substantial differences.

BIGMIKE13 said:

i just trimmed these yesterday from a clone from a clone and so on...from a original PAPAYA that i kept, about a year now. it looks better from the first grow i did with this strain.

you can look at these and other clones that i grow updated on PAGE 20-23 of my journal in my sig.

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The genetics from one plants cloned over and over cannot change. You will have the exact same plant every time however, as you noticed already with your statement above your plant is better now than a year ago. That fact will only be related to you figuring out exactly what that particular strain needs in order to grow to its fullest possibility. I have run many strains in this way and none of them ever lose any genetic information. Any differences you see in a clone will likely come from environmental factors. If your plant doet mind getting topped, this is a great way to not keep mothers and still clones with a perpetual system.

Bigmike13 currently i have been cloning blueberry, ice & white rhino for the last 4 years. I got clones given to me from a professional grower who had been cloning his for years before I got them. So really i dont know how many times they have been cloned but id say and this is just a estimate but its prob @least 50-60 times. Ive noticed no change in potenecy or growth actually on the contrary they seem to growing better and get stronger with each season. There are def pro & cons to cloning like if a certain plant is suceptible to disease your clones from that plant will be too. Im sure theres someone else on here that could explain that alot better to you because ive never really looked into it to much but so far since ive received my clones i had no problems and it seems like its the best way to keep a good female strain going. And ive found that between using aroponic cloners, rooting gel & dirt, sticking the cutting in water and rockwool that rockwool & olivias cloning solution along with roottech cloning gel is the best way to get your clones to grow, at least for me. Currently since i have switched from my aeroponic cloner to rockwool I have had around a 98% success rate probably
about 200 of out 220 give or take a few. Hopefully this helps and this is just my two cents on the conversation.

*Disclaimer* All statements made above are purely fictional and hypothetically what I may do were I in that situation.

BIGMIKE13 said:

it looks better from the first grow i did with this strain.

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i've found my clones from clones from clones also grow better than the original mom... i feel this is because you learn the characteristics of each strain and can accomodate it's health much better as you get used to it's particular needs...

richiesworld said:

i've found my clones from clones from clones also grow better than the original mom... i feel this is because you learn the characteristics of each strain and can accomodate it's health much better as you get used to it's particular needs...

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Exactly what I said