shotnva777
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I cut a clone off about 3 weeks ago from a plant that was in flower (didn't want to clone a MALE plant), as soon as I saw those first two pistils - out came the RAZOR!!!
I did everything correctly - I think: put on gloves, cut off a healthy branch that had leaves growing off of it and was about 6-8" long, trimmed the leaves to the branch (so that root's could possibly grow off them once buried), soaked the branch from the top three leaves, down in a Superthrive/fish emulsion/water mixture for about 15 mins (followed by cutting the bottom of the branch at a sharp angle while under the mixture), then COATED the branch in a Rooting hormone ( followed by a flick of the finger) and planted it in a complete mixture of 45% Peat Moss, %45 Perlite and 10% of organic potting soil. (that had a big enough hole in the medium so the hormone wouldn't "scrap" off - in a small dixie cup with drain holes). I soaked it with a spray bottle on a consistent basis and covered it with saran wrap (with holes poked in it for air) every other day. A tall thin piece of clothes hanger in the growing medium and a rubber band made this possible. (JUST think about it for a second and you'll picture it) lol. Like a tent!
Anyways, it seemed like it rooted... couldn't really tell! (it was green and looked EXACTLY like it did when I cut it off - so I figured it wasn't DYING, so it had to have grown a root system within the first 2 weeks!) I knew it would take some time to go back into vegging since it was in flowering mode. It didn't seem like it was growing any NEW growth though and their was still signs of "small pistil type things" - until the other day when SMALL leaves started to grow out of the center of the top of the clone!! I immediately thought, "time to transplant!!" and that's EXACTLY what I did.
Probably a dumb ass move because now it seems like it's dying!!! Here's what it looked like (excuse the new sprout, it was pulled - bag seed)!
When I saw that new growth, I proceeded with the transplant: I again put on gloves and VERY carefully dropped it out of the dixie cup upside down (with the main stem between my fingers - it fell right out). I then began to VERY CAREFULLY pick apart the growing medium, PRAYING for roots! Well my prayers were answered but they took a minute to find! They were all in a ball (about the size of a small golf ball), at the VERY bottom of the clone/stem! I think the reason behind this is because the "ball" was on top of a bunch of stray pieces of bark/hard chunks of growing medium or some bullshit!? It's like it couldn't grow through it and the roots just halted! So instead of growing downwards/outwards or whatever - it couldn't grow anyway because it was like the bark pieces or w/e were SURROUNDING it! It was odd and pissed me off, BUT I HAD ROOTS DAMNIT!!! But because the roots were being blocked it started to almost grow backwards and weird... it kinda just twisted up in a ball in a sense. It essentially got "root bound" in a GROWING MEDIUM!!! lol
But than again I'm sure it could've kept growing (eventually around/through it) if I would have gave it time to get past it. Well I didn't and this is what happened...
I just kind of got the dirt off the roots (not taking my time or anything) and placed it straight into my normal growing pot (3 gallon) ball and all. Grow medium/light's and light cycle - figuring it would start to flourish until it was done.... 5-6 daylight CFL's and 2 soft white cfls (my veg box - good ventilation and never breaks 85 degrees - what I've always used for vegging). It went on an immediate 20/4 light cycle and I used 70% soil, 15% perlite and 15% peat moss.... and started on some superthrive and low doses of vegging nutes. WELL THIS DID NOT WORK OUT WELL AT ALL!!! and this is how it looks NOW after I did another transplant to try and save it...
Here it is with the "humidity dome - should I even be using one of these??"
I inevitably pulled the roots apart VERY VERY VERY carefully and got it to looking like some straight down typish roots (like this - but I couldn't get them ALL apart and super clean like this obviously, though I DID get 3 damn good sized roots (2 1/2") free'd and a lot of small ones as well)... I then soaked them in a fish kelp/superthrive/H20 solution for about 15 mins and steadily tried to free as many roots as I could. Next I took the rooting hormone and caked all of the "ball" and loose roots. Then I took a clear tupperware container and filled it with 50/50 perlite and peat moss and made a new humidity done (showed in pics). Then I just gave it a SMALL amount of superthrive/h20 and h20/fish emulsion, to try and boost it. I soaked it one good time with pure water first, just so the rootball would settle in the new "pot".
Does this all seem like it was done correctly? Why is this plant dying if it has a semi DECENT root system? Now it's in something that stays humid, hot, loaded with organic fertilizer, B vitamins, gets plenty of oxygen and I feel like the roots should fucking EXPLODE and this plant should take off.....? Right?
Thanks for any input ahead of time!
I did everything correctly - I think: put on gloves, cut off a healthy branch that had leaves growing off of it and was about 6-8" long, trimmed the leaves to the branch (so that root's could possibly grow off them once buried), soaked the branch from the top three leaves, down in a Superthrive/fish emulsion/water mixture for about 15 mins (followed by cutting the bottom of the branch at a sharp angle while under the mixture), then COATED the branch in a Rooting hormone ( followed by a flick of the finger) and planted it in a complete mixture of 45% Peat Moss, %45 Perlite and 10% of organic potting soil. (that had a big enough hole in the medium so the hormone wouldn't "scrap" off - in a small dixie cup with drain holes). I soaked it with a spray bottle on a consistent basis and covered it with saran wrap (with holes poked in it for air) every other day. A tall thin piece of clothes hanger in the growing medium and a rubber band made this possible. (JUST think about it for a second and you'll picture it) lol. Like a tent!
Anyways, it seemed like it rooted... couldn't really tell! (it was green and looked EXACTLY like it did when I cut it off - so I figured it wasn't DYING, so it had to have grown a root system within the first 2 weeks!) I knew it would take some time to go back into vegging since it was in flowering mode. It didn't seem like it was growing any NEW growth though and their was still signs of "small pistil type things" - until the other day when SMALL leaves started to grow out of the center of the top of the clone!! I immediately thought, "time to transplant!!" and that's EXACTLY what I did.
Probably a dumb ass move because now it seems like it's dying!!! Here's what it looked like (excuse the new sprout, it was pulled - bag seed)!
When I saw that new growth, I proceeded with the transplant: I again put on gloves and VERY carefully dropped it out of the dixie cup upside down (with the main stem between my fingers - it fell right out). I then began to VERY CAREFULLY pick apart the growing medium, PRAYING for roots! Well my prayers were answered but they took a minute to find! They were all in a ball (about the size of a small golf ball), at the VERY bottom of the clone/stem! I think the reason behind this is because the "ball" was on top of a bunch of stray pieces of bark/hard chunks of growing medium or some bullshit!? It's like it couldn't grow through it and the roots just halted! So instead of growing downwards/outwards or whatever - it couldn't grow anyway because it was like the bark pieces or w/e were SURROUNDING it! It was odd and pissed me off, BUT I HAD ROOTS DAMNIT!!! But because the roots were being blocked it started to almost grow backwards and weird... it kinda just twisted up in a ball in a sense. It essentially got "root bound" in a GROWING MEDIUM!!! lol
But than again I'm sure it could've kept growing (eventually around/through it) if I would have gave it time to get past it. Well I didn't and this is what happened...I just kind of got the dirt off the roots (not taking my time or anything) and placed it straight into my normal growing pot (3 gallon) ball and all. Grow medium/light's and light cycle - figuring it would start to flourish until it was done.... 5-6 daylight CFL's and 2 soft white cfls (my veg box - good ventilation and never breaks 85 degrees - what I've always used for vegging). It went on an immediate 20/4 light cycle and I used 70% soil, 15% perlite and 15% peat moss.... and started on some superthrive and low doses of vegging nutes. WELL THIS DID NOT WORK OUT WELL AT ALL!!! and this is how it looks NOW after I did another transplant to try and save it...
Here it is with the "humidity dome - should I even be using one of these??"
I inevitably pulled the roots apart VERY VERY VERY carefully and got it to looking like some straight down typish roots (like this - but I couldn't get them ALL apart and super clean like this obviously, though I DID get 3 damn good sized roots (2 1/2") free'd and a lot of small ones as well)... I then soaked them in a fish kelp/superthrive/H20 solution for about 15 mins and steadily tried to free as many roots as I could. Next I took the rooting hormone and caked all of the "ball" and loose roots. Then I took a clear tupperware container and filled it with 50/50 perlite and peat moss and made a new humidity done (showed in pics). Then I just gave it a SMALL amount of superthrive/h20 and h20/fish emulsion, to try and boost it. I soaked it one good time with pure water first, just so the rootball would settle in the new "pot".
Does this all seem like it was done correctly? Why is this plant dying if it has a semi DECENT root system? Now it's in something that stays humid, hot, loaded with organic fertilizer, B vitamins, gets plenty of oxygen and I feel like the roots should fucking EXPLODE and this plant should take off.....? Right?
Thanks for any input ahead of time!
