Classic weed strains
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What you are looking for are called "Landrace" strains. ACE seeds is a good spot to look for some interesting landrace strains.
However, there is a reason why so few people grow landrace strains. Unless you plan on breeding with them and you yourself know what you are doing already there isn't much point to growing them. If you are new to growing or new to breeding you are way better off starting with a hybrid if not a poly-hybrid.
Durban Poison is one landrace that I do grow, but that's probably not actually a landrace either, it's been worked for years. (If you want a Sativa to breed with that's close to a landrace try that strain, it's easy to grow because it's been worked with already.) Pakistani weed has a few landrace strains that I've played around with and some from Mexico and Panama that were pretty good, but I wouldn't suggest playing around with landrace strains unless you are a seasoned grower AND breeder. First learn to grow really well, then do a few chucks to see what it's about and maybe then get into playing with the landraces, to create your own hybrids, that's my advice, for what it's worth.
Maybe I shouldn't assume you are new, but most people who are breeders/chuckers know what a landrace strain is and what the basic ones are. I'll just say this. If you aren't already doing fantastic with a bunch of grows from modern strains you aren't going to have better luck with landrace strains which are usually harder to grow, take a better eye to pick from them, etc. etc. etc. Taking the step back to landraces to create new hybrids might someday be the way to go, but honestly, it's like taking ten steps backwards and starting over. IF you are a fantastic breeder, have years to take your time and get it right AND get really lucky, maybe you will catch up to modern strains and even surpass them, but the odds of that happened are slim to none. The modern strains have a giant headstart and that's just the way it is.
However, there is a reason why so few people grow landrace strains. Unless you plan on breeding with them and you yourself know what you are doing already there isn't much point to growing them. If you are new to growing or new to breeding you are way better off starting with a hybrid if not a poly-hybrid.
Durban Poison is one landrace that I do grow, but that's probably not actually a landrace either, it's been worked for years. (If you want a Sativa to breed with that's close to a landrace try that strain, it's easy to grow because it's been worked with already.) Pakistani weed has a few landrace strains that I've played around with and some from Mexico and Panama that were pretty good, but I wouldn't suggest playing around with landrace strains unless you are a seasoned grower AND breeder. First learn to grow really well, then do a few chucks to see what it's about and maybe then get into playing with the landraces, to create your own hybrids, that's my advice, for what it's worth.
Maybe I shouldn't assume you are new, but most people who are breeders/chuckers know what a landrace strain is and what the basic ones are. I'll just say this. If you aren't already doing fantastic with a bunch of grows from modern strains you aren't going to have better luck with landrace strains which are usually harder to grow, take a better eye to pick from them, etc. etc. etc. Taking the step back to landraces to create new hybrids might someday be the way to go, but honestly, it's like taking ten steps backwards and starting over. IF you are a fantastic breeder, have years to take your time and get it right AND get really lucky, maybe you will catch up to modern strains and even surpass them, but the odds of that happened are slim to none. The modern strains have a giant headstart and that's just the way it is.
JoeBlow5823
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This clown uses grammar like "growed" sorry you wasted your time with that response lol.
U don t know me, so mind ur own business, he understood the message and u wasted ur time with that observation, this thread is not about grammar or being an "asshole" so go and be an asshole somewhere else please!
Thanks man!Have a nice day!
Michael Huntherz
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Honestly, friend, people will treat you with greater respect if you type using complete sentences and words. Punctuation is also helpful. If you want to be treated as intelligent then take the time to present yourself and your posts with dignity. It is a choice you get to make. My first impression is also that you are dumb as a box of rocks, solely because of your poor writing. If English is not your first language, then I am sorry to say you need to study a bit more. If it is your only language then honestly it comes down to self-respect. Try having some.
Regardless; Landrace strains are an interesting topic, have fun learning about them!
No, is not my first language and I was in a hurry writing and I didn t payed verry much attention to my grammar even though I know how to write and spell, so it could happen to everyone
Michael Huntherz
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Fair point, and I can see you are capable of better.
My apologies and blessings to you. Carry on!
I'm on a computer and I type fast so it's easy for me to make comments that are Way TOO long. LOL Don't sweat it. It's just that there are always some people who come on and ask something quick like that then never show back up or act up, whatever. I like to help people and if anyone else wants to jump in or just read it that's cool.
I used to play around with landrace strains more in the past out of necessity than anything else. When I first started growing I had mostly just bagseed junk, then in the mid 80's I got some great strains but only a couple, (Durban Poison and Purple indica) but I also had gone to Central America and picked up seeds in Panama and I picked up some Columbian gold that was seedy as F. So I thought I'd be a rock star and be the next Nevil. LOL It's a lot freaking harder than you think to make really good true hybrids and since the work has already been done better than I could ever do it, I'm probably not going to go back and try again. Maybe if I hadn't been forced to take a brake for a while (Army stuff) I might have kept up with these new strains, but then again, probably not.
Guys like Nevil that created the first hybrids worked with a TON of seeds, they would pick from 500 males and more all the time. Rosenthal started with hundreds of Durban Poison males too. Finding a Male is what it's all about when it comes to landrace breeding and it was harder then. Looking for a good male with these poly-hybrids is a breeze compared with finding a good one in the wild. Now with males I look more for structure and vigor more than anything and just take the potency and flavor for granted in a way you can't with landrace strains.
Some people think these modern poly-hybrids will play themselves out and if you want to get True Hybrid Vigor you need to go back to working landrace strains into true hybrids. I will say there is something to that. The very first crosses from the Sativa's I made with the Purple Indica were really good and grew Huge. The first f1's from that run still stick in my mind as great for back then, I still don't think they would be as good as modern strains though.
Hybrid vigor vs Poly-hybrid vigor is a good topic too.
I've been tempted by ACE seeds many times and I would try to make another true hybrid if not for these damn plant limits.
I wanna put my hand on some Acapulco gold or some Panama red to grow outdoors but unfortunately I live in Romania where is temperate climate I just wanna feel that high like in the 60's , grew some og Kush outdoors and smoked some bud from it when it was way to early and it was kinda psychedelic if u know when bud is harvested early
You should try the Durban Poison some people call it a landrace strain and I guess technically it's true, but the guy who bred it worked a long time to pick through and find the best. He did this in Amsterdam and it can grow outdoors there, it's one of the only Sativa's I know of that can be harvested that early.
And I know exactly what you mean about buds that are harvested early. Wired trippy buzz that doesn't last long. The Durban is a trippy buzz too but not in the kind of nasty way that picking too early does. It's a real Upper, they call it the "espresso of weed". It's also easy to grow and easy enough to find. The European strains of Durban usually have two pheno's one that looks more Sativa and one that looks more Indica, I like the bigger Sativa looking one. I think it's Dutch Passion or some company like that over there who still has it going.
Most sativa's indoors are a PITA but if you have the time they can be grown, I start Sativa's on 12/12, they grow almost like they would started with 24 hours of light. They grow up a ways before they start to bud, top them really young, as soon as they are healthy enough to do it. Panama Red and Columbian Gold indoors take about 120 days started from 12/12 to absolutely finish up. Everyone talks up the Panama Red but when I was down there they had one that was a dark green with some orange hairs that was my favorite. A dollar from street vendors would get you a handful of buds wrapped in newspaper. If you knew someone you could get a paper grocery bag full for $5. The Columbian Gold was a little more and it was always seedy but worth digging through the seeds to find the gold, lol. The first time I smoke the dark green weed I wasn't even sure it was weed it was so different, my mind couldn't process that it was the same drug. The second time I smoked it my mind went click and "got it" and then I loved it. If I could ever find that exact bud again I'd love to grow it.
spliffendz
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Fleur Du Mal is back on Strainly and has Durban x's and c99 x's that were really popular in the 90's I think, I never got to try them so don't know what the hype was about, closest spacey ones I tried were Spacequeen and Blueberry but I don't know where the seeds were from.