Cig Quitters

roseypeach

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spent the whole day without any nik, been smoking cyber crystal like crazy tho. Being high half of me wants to smoke a cig and the other half is having enough fun without it. so i try to stick that side. Kinda use mary to take my attention offem.
One day at a time bro, good to see you made thru day one!
so ive had a few drinks id kill for a smoke man
Almost through day one, hang in there chick..
 

theexpress

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I quit tobacco cold turkey awhile ago. It was definitely a pain in the ass the first week, but once you get beyond that, you've got it made.

Been using this stuff ever since.

monday will be a month for me. i still feind for them wen angry i smoke since i was 12 everyday untill i was almost 29 :(

Helps to recondition mind and body by using it instead of the tobacco, cheaper, keeps your breath fresh, and won't kill you.

Give it a go, and good luck.
 

Nutes and Nugs

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Yup.. I fell off the wagon and was back to smoking 2 packs a day for the last few months. Made me sad because I was smoke free for 2 years. Im a huge nic and caffine freak. Give me a smoke and a coffee and Ill move a mountain for ya. :)

Anyways I havent touched a cig in at least a month, been using e cigs (vision spinner dual coil with 1600mha battery) started at 21 mg and now I'm down to 3 mg. Whats good is that I dont have run off and burn one..

Made my own flavor.. Girls scout cookies.. "thin mint" e juice. 1/2 peppermint juice 1/2 chocolate chip cookie juice. Tasty.
The "vision spinner" looks like a good unit.
Strong and powerful battery and it's adjustable.
530 thread - interchangeable main parts and the cooker part lasts at least a month. (better than a week or two on cheaper units)

So many choices.....
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
i am extremely bitchy from not smoking ....i actually snapped shit on someone on here andi dont ever do that LOL
 

H.M. Murdoch

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i did actually quit before, and i was completely fine until about 9 months in i had a few drinks with friends who were all chain smokers and than i got sucked back in again
That's a common pitfall for many quitters.

When you first quit, you tend to guard yourself from getting into tempting situations. But as time goes on, you slowly reenter your "old life" by resuming activities that can leave you vulnerable. Drinking with friends is one of those things.

Good luck on this quit attempt. Most life-long quitters take a few quit attempts before they ultimately succeed. Keep at it. I can tell you from experience, it's hard, but it's SOOOOO worth it.
 

H.M. Murdoch

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Please let me offer you people some encouragement.

Seven years ago, I quit a 32-year tobacco habit (addiction). I had tried quitting many times before, but never stayed quit very long.

I found a web site that specialized in helping people quit. It was sort of like "Alcoholics Anonymous" online. I joined a quit group, and got to know my "quit brothers and sisters" via online chatting. We logged in every morning, made a post in which we promised to quit tobacco for just that day (one day at a time), and promised to call a quit brother or sister before we "caved" and went back to tobacco. The group approach really helped me. The depressing thing is that sometimes when I go back to that web site (after 7 years of being quit), I see that some of my quit brothers or sisters have joined a current quit group. They caved. Nicotine ALWAYS wants you back.

Here are some things I learned that might interest you:

1. Only about 5% of people who quit actually stay completely quit for the rest of their lives. The same quit percentage as heroin addicts.

2. The best way to quit and stay quit for the rest of your life is to just get pissed off and quit cold turkey.

3. All quitters are still addicts. No matter how long you stay quit, you're still an addict. "Just one" is one too many, and will likely put you right back in the midst of your previous habit. Just like an alcoholic taking "just one drink" after being quit for 10 years.

4. Anyone who quits and fails will return to their previous level of consumption, or greater. Most people who go back to their habit fool themselves into thinking they'll "just smoke on weekends" or "keep it to 5 cigs a day". That's just their still-addicted brain trying to fool them into giving it what it wants: nicotine. And it will always demand more and more, until you're right back to your previous level of consumption.

5. Nicotine Replacement Therapies (NRT - nicotine gum, patch, etc.) work only to a moderate level. And based upon what I've learned, they are a waste of time. You are still an ACTIVE nicotine addict; you've just changed the delivery method. And once you quit the NRT, you'll still have to go through the hell of withdrawal and recovery. The NRT just delays that; it doesn't eliminate it.

6. There ARE drugs that can help. Chantix and Zyban (generic name is Bupropion). Chantix reduces your body's ability to "enjoy" nicotine by blocking nicotine receptors in your brain, thereby (hopefully) causing you to quit since you can't enjoy it.

Zyban (which I used successfully) is a very good anti-depressant (with no sexual side effects). When it was first developed, there was one unintended positive side effect reported by many users - they lost the desire to smoke and were able to quit. Since you'll likely be depressed as hell for a few weeks after you quit, Zyban will help kill both the depression and nicotine cravings. As I said, after 10 days of being quit, I tried it and it IMMEDIATELY helped a lot.

Good luck to you all.
 

roseypeach

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Please let me offer you people some encouragement.

Seven years ago, I quit a 32-year tobacco habit (addiction). I had tried quitting many times before, but never stayed quit very long.

I found a web site that specialized in helping people quit. It was sort of like "Alcoholics Anonymous" online. I joined a quit group, and got to know my "quit brothers and sisters" via online chatting. We logged in every morning, made a post in which we promised to quit tobacco for just that day (one day at a time), and promised to call a quit brother or sister before we "caved" and went back to tobacco. The group approach really helped me. The depressing thing is that sometimes when I go back to that web site (after 7 years of being quit), I see that some of my quit brothers or sisters have joined a current quit group. They caved. Nicotine ALWAYS wants you back.

Here are some things I learned that might interest you:

1. Only about 5% of people who quit actually stay completely quit for the rest of their lives. The same quit percentage as heroin addicts.

2. The best way to quit and stay quit for the rest of your life is to just get pissed off and quit cold turkey.

3. All quitters are still addicts. No matter how long you stay quit, you're still an addict. "Just one" is one too many, and will likely put you right back in the midst of your previous habit. Just like an alcoholic taking "just one drink" after being quit for 10 years.

4. Anyone who quits and fails will return to their previous level of consumption, or greater. Most people who go back to their habit fool themselves into thinking they'll "just smoke on weekends" or "keep it to 5 cigs a day". That's just their still-addicted brain trying to fool them into giving it what it wants: nicotine. And it will always demand more and more, until you're right back to your previous level of consumption.

5. Nicotine Replacement Therapies (NRT - nicotine gum, patch, etc.) work only to a moderate level. And based upon what I've learned, they are a waste of time. You are still an ACTIVE nicotine addict; you've just changed the delivery method. And once you quit the NRT, you'll still have to go through the hell of withdrawal and recovery. The NRT just delays that; it doesn't eliminate it.

6. There ARE drugs that can help. Chantix and Zyban (generic name is Bupropion). Chantix reduces your body's ability to "enjoy" nicotine by blocking nicotine receptors in your brain, thereby (hopefully) causing you to quit since you can't enjoy it.

Zyban (which I used successfully) is a very good anti-depressant (with no sexual side effects). When it was first developed, there was one unintended positive side effect reported by many users - they lost the desire to smoke and were able to quit. Since you'll likely be depressed as hell for a few weeks after you quit, Zyban will help kill both the depression and nicotine cravings. As I said, after 10 days of being quit, I tried it and it IMMEDIATELY helped a lot.

Good luck to you all.
Thank you so much for contributing! This is so so true..for the most part, for myself at least. The changing delivery method, right on. I am weak. There, I said it. I have an e-cig but I also have bad reaction to the drugs offered as I mentioned in the original thread. It sucks, I'm gonna get this stuff out of my blood sooner or later. I figure I'm at least going in the right direction.

i am extremely bitchy from not smoking ....i actually snapped shit on someone on here andi dont ever do that LOL
Hang in there girl, you may snap on a few more..lol just remember it won't last forever..hopefully! :lol:
 

sunni

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Staff member
Thank you so much for contributing! This is so so true..for the most part, for myself at least. The changing delivery method, right on. I am weak. There, I said it. I have an e-cig but I also have bad reaction to the drugs offered as I mentioned in the original thread. It sucks, I'm gonna get this stuff out of my blood sooner or later. I figure I'm at least going in the right direction.



Hang in there girl, you may snap on a few more..lol just remember it won't last forever..hopefully! :lol:
he fucking deserved it tho LHAHAHAHA
 

H.M. Murdoch

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The reason most quitters have trouble with cravings when they drink is because their brain has trained them that way.

Did you ever notice how good it was to smoke while drinking? I mean, the two seem to go together like peas and carrots (to quote Forrest Gump). Well, there's a good reason.

In the bloodstream, alcohol actually acts to reduce the amount of nicotine in your bloodstream. Thus giving you the urge to smoke and smoke and smoke while drinking (and after drinking). So since the nicotine level in your bloodstream is constantly being eliminated by alcohol, it serves to give that much more of a feeling-boost when fresh nicotine comes in. The less nicotine in your blood, the better the nicotine hit feels. Kinda like that first cig in the morning. Only you get that same great feeling over and over while smoking and drinking.

So after years of this, people naturally associate smoking with drinking. Kinda like Pavlov's dogs. An association is created that trains you to behave certain ways in certain situations. That's a "chain" that has to be broken, but it's very hard. One of the hardest "chain" associations to break is drinking and smoking.

Just something to keep in mind during the early and middle stages of your quit.
 

sunni

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Staff member
coffee and cigerettes together is much better actually i can deal with drunk and no smokes, ill mention or rather blabble something about a cigerette and get over it
but coffee..........coffee man...

its like soul mates you CANT TEAR THEM APART!

So ive yet to have coffee today
 

roseypeach

Well-Known Member
The reason most quitters have trouble with cravings when they drink is because their brain has trained tow good it was to smoke while drinking? I mean, the two seem to go together like peas and carrots (to quote Forrest Gump). Well, there's a good reason.

In the bloodstream, alcohol actually acts to reduce the amount of nicotine in your bloodstream. Thus giving you the urge to smoke and smoke and smoke while drinking (and after drinking). So since the nicotine level in your bloodstream is constantly being eliminated by alcohol, it serves to give that much more of a feeling-boost when fresh nicotine comes in. The less nicotine in your blood, the better the nicotine hit feels. Kinda like that first cig in the morning. Only you get that same great feeling over and over while smoking and drinking.

So after years of this, people naturally associate smoking with drinking. Kinda like Pavlov's dogs. An association is created that trains you to behave certain ways in certain situations. That's a "chain" that has to be broken, but it's very hard. One of the hardest "chain" associations to break is drinking and smoking.

Just something to keep in mind during the early and middle stages of your quit.
Wow...
 

AllenHaze

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I started smoking pot before cigarettes funny as it sounds. I quit cold turkey when I decided I was fed up with being lied to and probably, tricked to begin smoking in the first place by big tobacco's propaganda agenda. I realized that I was effectively paying cash to die faster. If you haven't already, try watching "Thank You for Smoking" Good movie. It's been a couple years now but I remember that the hardest part was the first 7-10 days. After that it got easier and easier. Positive vibes your way. :peace:
 

H.M. Murdoch

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The thing to keep in mind during the early stages of your quit is that IT WILL GET BETTER. And eventually, you'll go days, weeks, and months without even thinking about tobacco, much less having cravings. I've been quit over 7 years, and I never think about tobacco anymore.
I started smoking pot before cigarettes funny as it sounds. I quit cold turkey when I decided I was fed up with being lied to and probably, tricked to begin smoking in the first place by big tobacco's propaganda agenda. I realized that I was effectively paying cash to die faster. If you haven't already, try watching "Thank You for Smoking" Good movie. It's been a couple years now but I remember that the hardest part was the first 7-10 days. After that it got easier and easier. Positive vibes your way. :peace:
Great movie. I saw it about 4 years ago.
 

GrowerGoneWild

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3. All quitters are still addicts. No matter how long you stay quit, you're still an addict. "Just one" is one too many, and will likely put you right back in the midst of your previous habit. Just like an alcoholic taking "just one drink" after being quit for 10 years.
I hear ya.. I was suprised how fast I started smoking again.
 
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