Chronic Pain

Timmahh · Mar 27, 2012

you use cannabis now. you admit to growing it illegally and being a hardened criminal on an open forum.

when you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

You fool bob, the system did not pass this Act, We the People Did. Again, you speaking out your taint, because you are seriously misguided on the Law, The State, and even who passed this fucking law. Every time you type, you prove you know absolutely fucking zero about the Law. You Must be a cop. about the only job you could qualify for it seems.

Timmahh · Mar 27, 2012

Hey Bob. let me give you a few tips, that is if you're really not LEO already.

You have an IP address yes? you have a registry id card yes?

You just sit tight then, Big Brother, Bull Schuitte and the Prosecution Crews will send the jackboots to your house soon enough. Dont Worry bob, Unless im dead or in jail, I ll set outside and scream and yell and act all crazy patriotic to fight for your freedom. though i KNOW You wouldnt do the same, but its ok, you ll forgive yourself one day....

blissfest · Mar 27, 2012

Someday soon, MJ will be LEGAL Nationwide and we can all laugh about this

There is no way in hell this WAR on weed will last another 5 years.

I know many people that dont use MJ that are sick and tired of hearing about it, and just soon see it legal. They think it is BULLSHIT to put ANYONE in jail for weed, and cant stand the Gov. spending so much cash trying to stop it.

Over 50% of the Nation wants it legal today, it will happen.

Timmahh · Mar 27, 2012

we can only pray and hope for change that is the case Bliss.

So MUCH contention, but i purpose that will not happen.

Its like this.

Cannabis being Illegal has NOTHING To do with addiction, gateway drug, bad for kids, babies, old people and others that happen to need oxygen to live.
Its all a fucking sham. Cannabis is illegal because of all the OTHER things it is capable of providing.

Not just medicine, but Food. Fuel, Material, Rope, Plastics, Oxygen for the Atmosphere, Building materials 10 times stronger and 60% cheaper to produce and manufacture. It can be medical items, livestock feed, you can make cars, and tires, to homes, beds, dinettes and baby diapers out of it.... the rest of Corporate American dont want it legal, cuz the rest of the world isnt out of everything else they can make money from yet.

once you see a point where more and more resources go away, oil, nat gas, forrests, clean water ect, and those resources dry up, only then will Corpormarica turn to the cannbis/hemp plant to continue their theft of everything you have left, including your childrens life. they are already on the hook 2 generations deep...

but we will never see cannbis legal, and if it is, it will be highly taxed and regulated, and NO one will be able to grow it except government and their corpormerica masters.

IF you or I try to grow a couple buds for our personal health, they ll shut down your RF chip, which will be linked to you cock and you heart, so you can watch your dick explode before you drop dead of a heart attack, as you ve been found caught, convicted, sentenced and had sentences executed by the fairy tale im telling.

lol gosh, Im so Crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy, I'm stunning.

blissfest · Mar 27, 2012

LOL! Yeah, there is a shitload of people against it, but their numbers are droppin fast. They lost this war, and they know it

gladstoned · Mar 27, 2012

blissfest said:
Someday soon, MJ will be LEGAL Nationwide and we can all laugh about this

There is no way in hell this WAR on weed will last another 5 years.

I know many people that dont use MJ that are sick and tired of hearing about it, and just soon see it legal. They think it is BULLSHIT to put ANYONE in jail for weed, and cant stand the Gov. spending so much cash trying to stop it.

Over 50% of the Nation wants it legal today, it will happen.

blissfest, I just answered you over on the Rare Dankness thread. I just started a journal on the OG Ghost Train Haze #1 that is on the cover of High Times. Tomorrow I think I am going to start another journal on my Plush Berry. I started the Rare Dankness first cuz it is so hard to find info and that is crazy since they are in colorado.

Timmahh · Mar 27, 2012

That is unless we get fools like bob harris, to take off those rose colored glasses and see what is really going on.

I ll be posting up all the recent cases that have come to light over the last 30 days or soon over the next few days as time permits. Have to go to Lansing Thurs am for the Vote, and then meet with a possible lobbyist we are bringing aboard....

blissfest · Mar 27, 2012

gladstoned said:
blissfest, I just answered you over on the Rare Dankness thread. I just started a journal on the OG Ghost Train Haze #1 that is on the cover of High Times. Tomorrow I think I am going to start another journal on my Plush Berry. I started the Rare Dankness first cuz it is so hard to find info and that is crazy since they are in colorado.

I just started a pack of Agent Orange and a pack of Conny Gen. Secret Recipe

gladstoned · Mar 27, 2012

I just started a pack of Agent Orange. and Plush berry

Noob187 · Mar 28, 2012

bob harris said:
I agree..it's natural, has far fewer ill effects tan alcohol and doesn't hurt anyone. But we have to deal with the fact that our government, in it's infinite wisdom. has classified it as a schedule 1 drug.

I'm all for free access to cannabis. But all we have for now is a medical access. My point is that responsible use of the medical access may help with the long term goal of free access for everyone. But that abuses of the med law, just encourage those opposed to cannabis to say "see..we give an inch, they take a mile"

I agree with you here now that you've clarified your position. I thought you were against recreational smokers. I say no need to worry man far more people abuse the card in California than in Michigan and it has not been taken away from there. I think that your giving too much credibility to the opponent of cannabis Bob. These same people who claim "you give an inch, they take a mile" are against HEMP, HEMP bro, the stuff that can't even get you high if you smoke a telephone pole sized J of the stuff. Just relax, if people are going to abuse it, they will abuse it anyways & since you have a "legitimate" reason to be prescribed its unlikely you have much to worry about other than the feds of course. Which are a threat to everybody, even themselves (budget defecits). The law isn't going to stop anybody from growing or puffing medical laws or not. I think the miniscule amount of people who may be using the med card as an excuse more power to them because the criminal justice system is infinitely more painful than any terminal illness.

Noob187 · Mar 28, 2012

bob harris said:
But you CAN afford to get new xrays..you said you have them. And you CAN afford chiro treatments, and the cert fee. And you ARE spending money building a new grow facility...so what's your point? Again you are trying to justify something that doesn't even apply too you.

You keep waving the banner of some poor homeless soul with no money at all, no insurance and no means to receive help of any kind. That person can't even afford a cert fee, much less the cannabis or grow equipment if he were certified. If he had any money, even with NO money, he would have sought help at an emergency room, shelter..someplace.

You'd like me to believe that somewhere, someone has been suffering with pain, not sought help, then suddenly decided that cannabis was the answer to his misery? Bullshit. People in chronic pain seek help..through free clinics, emergency rooms..even Churches and shelters.

Your just arguing for "cannabis for all" with no logic or reasoning.

So now here is where Bob is wrong... You are not taking into account that people ARE spending money on all these EXPENSIVE medical proceedures, certifications, grow equipment, insurance etc. This is enough to leave ANY middle class broke, let alone an average Joe with serious illness from the working class. Are you forgetting this is Michigan we are talking about? Not everybody lives in Bloomfield hills with the luxury of being able to afford that mentioned above and still pay bills and put food on the table. That's why many people don't even grow it, the initial investment is a scary thought. But the prices dealers charge for medicine is equally ridiculous, hence why we (everybody) should be pushing back against the MJ laws as hard as possible. Cannabis for all is not a favorite politician catch-phrase, but I think cannabis should be completely legal for consumption by adults. You are making too many generalizations of what you think people do. You sound like a victim of the American brainwashing I mean education system/mainstream media SCAMpaign against liberty.

bob harris · Mar 28, 2012

Timmahh said:
we can only pray and hope for change that is the case Bliss.

So MUCH contention, but i purpose that will not happen.

Its like this.

Cannabis being Illegal has NOTHING To do with addiction, gateway drug, bad for kids, babies, old people and others that happen to need oxygen to live.
Its all a fucking sham. Cannabis is illegal because of all the OTHER things it is capable of providing.

Not just medicine, but Food. Fuel, Material, Rope, Plastics, Oxygen for the Atmosphere, Building materials 10 times stronger and 60% cheaper to produce and manufacture. It can be medical items, livestock feed, you can make cars, and tires, to homes, beds, dinettes and baby diapers out of it.... the rest of Corporate American dont want it legal, cuz the rest of the world isnt out of everything else they can make money from yet.

once you see a point where more and more resources go away, oil, nat gas, forrests, clean water ect, and those resources dry up, only then will Corpormarica turn to the cannbis/hemp plant to continue their theft of everything you have left, including your childrens life. they are already on the hook 2 generations deep...

but we will never see cannbis legal, and if it is, it will be highly taxed and regulated, and NO one will be able to grow it except government and their corpormerica masters.

IF you or I try to grow a couple buds for our personal health, they ll shut down your RF chip, which will be linked to you cock and you heart, so you can watch your dick explode before you drop dead of a heart attack, as you ve been found caught, convicted, sentenced and had sentences executed by the fairy tale im telling.

lol gosh, Im so Crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy, I'm stunning.

Wow..that was an anti Society rant..I'm sorry the world has treated you so poorly..you are just another professional victim aren't you?

Timmahh · Mar 28, 2012

lolol oh bob your hidden position is coming more clear by the post.

im not a victim never have been, i dont allow myself to be a victim. and if im confronted, i think you can reasonably tell im not one to back down.

keep trying though, its amuzing to see the squirrels trying to gather more nuts than they can store for the winter.

Timmahh · Mar 28, 2012

Noob187 said:
So now here is where Bob is wrong... You are not taking into account that people ARE spending money on all these EXPENSIVE medical proceedures, certifications, grow equipment, insurance etc. This is enough to leave ANY middle class broke, let alone an average Joe with serious illness from the working class. Are you forgetting this is Michigan we are talking about? Not everybody lives in Bloomfield hills with the luxury of being able to afford that mentioned above and still pay bills and put food on the table. That's why many people don't even grow it, the initial investment is a scary thought. But the prices dealers charge for medicine is equally ridiculous, hence why we (everybody) should be pushing back against the MJ laws as hard as possible. Cannabis for all is not a favorite politician catch-phrase, but I think cannabis should be completely legal for consumption by adults. You are making too many generalizations of what you think people do. You sound like a victim of the American brainwashing I mean education system/mainstream media SCAMpaign against liberty.

clap clap clap.

bob harris · Mar 28, 2012

Timmahh said:
clap clap clap.

Are you telling us you have the clap?

Timmahh · Mar 28, 2012

as expected, peanuts from the gallary. Cant bring honest fact to debate your position, so like a monkey, you pick up a hand full of shit and fling it.

bob harris · Mar 28, 2012

Timmahh said:
as expected, peanuts from the gallary. Cant bring honest fact to debate your position, so like a monkey, you pick up a hand full of shit and fling it.

You are applauding a plea for legalization. It's not a point at all in a medical cannabis discussion.

An to the post you quote:

Yes, people do spend money on all those things. And yes, we are not all rich. But the bottom line is whatever money people do spend..they CHOOSE what to pay for first...and if they don't have enough money for everything they want or need...that's sad, but it's been that way for all time.

Poor people are not shut out by this law. They may have a more difficult access the benefit, but the have a hard time accessing housing, food, transportation as well. The law isn't discriminating against them..their situation is.

The economy is tough..lots of unemployed..lots of people struggling. But quit making them the rally cry for medical cannabis.

ismokealotofpot · Mar 29, 2012

Timmah I had a blowout argument for over a week with bob he destroyed my patient caregiver thread the fist time and stumpjumper had to edit half of it.Hes just a fucking no good troll looking for bait. he likes it when you copy and past and do all the research for him and he never fucking stops. He likes to think hes allowed to smoke and your not. I think I gave you some rep once bob I want it back!

bob harris · Mar 29, 2012

ismokealotofpot said:
Timmah I had a blowout argument for over a week with bob he destroyed my patient caregiver thread the fist time and stumpjumper had to edit half of it.Hes just a fucking no good troll looking for bait. he likes it when you copy and past and do all the research for him and he never fucking stops. He likes to think hes allowed to smoke and your not. I think I gave you some rep once bob I want it back!

You guys are so paranoid. I don't like to think I can medicate and you can't...far from it..If you have a qualifying condition, certified by a doctor. I love ya man. If on the other hand, you are one of the thousands who got their card under false pretenses, and are now using the med law to shield your "stoner" or "profiteer" motives, then yes..I won't shed a tear when you get busted.

Timmahh · Mar 29, 2012

fool doesnt realize 95% of those two groups are the same people, the Citizens of the State of Michigan. What anIDIOT.

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