Chemist77 315 watt CDL grow

caumop

caumop

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HeartIandhank said:
Have you tried supplementing UV, ttystick? What has you doubting it?

Supplementing UV with T5 is very affordable. . The tests showing benefits from UV on indoor MJ go back to the 80s.. it's been shown time and time again since then as well.
And it isn't just increased thc, resin and thcv. But also a more complete genetic expression. Making your herb more unique and expressing traits it
developed to protect itself from problems like fungus, disease, pests, etc..
The question that is still up in the air is if it is UVA, UVB, or both. There are people claiming all 3.
But if all you want is increased potency you don't need to run uv all through flower. Just 6 hrs per day for the final 2 wks has shown to have the same effect on potency as running all through veg and flower.

I spent 140 bucks to supplement UV over a 6x4 garden along with 2 600 hps. I'm on my first grow with it right now.. I'll have more to say on it after i run a couple harvests with it.. iI tried using some 10k metal halides but i didnt get an even spread of a good complete spectrum.. instead patches of high peaks spread through the garden. not ideal

The average daylight spectrum is made up of 3% UVA and .15% UVB.. I see a lot of people claiming it is all UVB.. I suspect it is more about UVA.

I am a bit bias towards recreating nature in the grow room though. I am trying to move towards being hospitable to my plants as opposed to trying to squeeze every bit of production I can out of them. So far, i'm liking the results. Spectrum is what I'm putting my efforts into right now. Wondering if these CDL lights are going to be a piece of the puizzle.

Im avoiding LED for now. They aren't buiilt to last. The technology is too expensive. AND, the lighting industry is doubling the price on the hydro industry. I heard it from the mouth of a manufacturer.. They would sell the same light to residential or commercial for half what they sell to a hydro store. Cost to make it makes no difference. Just a straight up double price if it is marketed toward gardeners. BULLSHIT!.
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Heart, which T5 bulb did you use for uv sup? How much of a difference did it make?
 
Rhino king

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Looks nice & healthy well done.im likEing your projects forsure, im running 2x galaxy 600 with digimax bulbs and 2 sunsystem 315z doing a side by side on 3 150x75 nft gullys per 2 lights etc so 3 gullys each . in my fourth week atm in bloom running a a&b npk budzilla 20-5-30 mix.with superthrive and bud xl and they r getting hit tonite with h&g top booster then on the 5th week they will be getting hit with the shooting powder along with shooting powderx2 on the 6th .but my first impressions are impressive .
 
TheChemist77

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sorry i havnt posted pix in a wile.. ill get some pix up SOON!! im 4 weeks into bloom, 40 plants in 4'' rock wool placed in 6'' net pots covered with grow rocks on the 4'x6' f&d table.. 2 315's above, maxi bloom nutes, ill add powder koolbloom for the last 2 weeks. every 6 hours table floods for 15 minutes..first 2 weeks of bloom they got 1/2 grow, 1/2 maxi bloom, at 900 ppm, 3rd week bloom only ppm at 1,000, 4th week bloom only 1,100 ppm, ph at 5.6 then i let it drift to 6.3 before i add down to 5.6 again,, usually takes 5 days,but i top off with mixed bloom water unless ppm gets to high, then i top with plain ph balanced water to keep the ppm at 1100...
 
Rhino king

Rhino king

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TheChemist77 said:
sorry i havnt posted pix in a wile.. ill get some pix up SOON!! im 4 weeks into bloom, 40 plants in 4'' rock wool placed in 6'' net pots covered with grow rocks on the 4'x6' f&d table.. 2 315's above, maxi bloom nutes, ill add powder koolbloom for the last 2 weeks. every 6 hours table floods for 15 minutes..first 2 weeks of bloom they got 1/2 grow, 1/2 maxi bloom, at 900 ppm, 3rd week bloom only ppm at 1,000, 4th week bloom only 1,100 ppm, ph at 5.6 then i let it drift to 6.3 before i add down to 5.6 again,, usually takes 5 days,but i top off with mixed bloom water unless ppm gets to high, then i top with plain ph balanced water to keep the ppm at 1100...
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Wow thats awesome low ppms to me im running way higher around 1680 cf 24. They are pumping along with superthrive , bud xl , just gt hit with top shooter yesterday going to flush on sunday ,then return to normal a b nute schedule and on 5th week introduce shooting powder then 6th week the will get a double hit of shooting powder whilst reduceing nutes to around 1000ppm 1200ppm and then on 7th week flush these babys out with phd water etc
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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jayjay777 said:
Still that Afghan! I've tried gdp,gsc,ogk,ww, you get the point. I at least tried 20 other stains but that's still the best....
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That's one of the things I like best about our favorite plant; everyone has a different favorite. Personally, afghan strains were nothing special for me, but that's just a subjective preference.

I've been through dozens of strains as well, and my favorites tend to be hybrids with some lemon fuel flavor and a healthy Indica punch.

Vive la difference!
 
jayjay777

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My personal favorite is just like yours. Like a lemon haze. But when it comes to growing it's all about yield N bag appeal. N this Afghan strain takes the cake.

Also when I first started out I wouldn't let the strains go 63 or 70 days. Usually 49 or 56. So a lot of strains I tried didn't see there full potential. But that's the impatience of a newbie, now I know better LOL

But the chemist777 bread this critical I still have and it's good smoke but the bud size and plant structure are unbelieveable. It roots in 7 days and would be perfect in a commercial application.
 
TheChemist77

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i had recently planted 3 fem's of 5.0 from black skull seeds and 2 spliff blue berry, 1 of the blue berries actually smell like blue berries! both have great structure and bud size but the 1 that has that smell is a keeper. then the 3 5.0's 2 are short n stocky with 1 being tall, i labled them 1,2,and 3 in the order in which they came up.. the #1 5.0 smells like pine, very powerfull pine smell with huge 11 fingered leaves.. i dont think they can replace my bubble gum but i definately need to run some of the clones on the table.. wright now its the 5 mothers on my megagarden all are close to 4' tall.. i pollenated a branch on each of them with feminized bubble gum pollen and finally created some S1's of my th seeds bubble gum..i had also planted 2 nl#5xafghan reg seeds from mr.nice, unfortunatly they wer both male, but 1 has the really indica dominant leaves,short structure with a x-mas tree like shape. clusters and crystals forming on the leaves.not a very powerfull smell but its a nice looking male.. ill collect some pollen and make some crosses...i now have over 200 crosses of my owne and close to 250 strains i bought from mid week song..
 
GOLDBERG71

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I had a ballast fail the other day. So after some pondering. I'm going to dive in to the deep end. I've ruled out DE because of height restrictions. So I'm going to be removing my 2 600 watt MH/HPS from my 4x8 tent. That will give a ballast in place of the failed ballast and one to make seeds with. Going into the tent as replacements will be 3 - 315 CMH. I called my hydro guy and put them on hold. So as soon as I have a few hours I'll go pick them up later in the week. We spoke for a good bit of time about a great many things. I'm not certain but I believe they're the same as used here.

Ive got 8 plants in the tent now just waiting for their new lighting before I flip them to flower. So the first run will be half and half lighting veg under MH and flowered under CMH. I'm still hoping to at least get a glimps of the "better" product. I'll report back in a month and a half or so and give some idea as to what I'm seeing. Most of my strains are in the 10+ to 12 week category. So it will take awhile.
 
TheChemist77

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hey m back, computer had broke after my son got water on the keyboard..anyways my ccurrent run is looking to be my best to date..36 bubble gums vegged for 4 weeks, topped and ttrimmed ofaall loweer branches after 2 weeks then clippedd again juust before they went in bloom.they started bloom sep.1st,,,ill get pix up soon,,


i missed u guys
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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TheChemist77 said:
hey m back, computer had broke after my son got water on the keyboard..anyways my ccurrent run is looking to be my best to date..36 bubble gums vegged for 4 weeks, topped and ttrimmed ofaall loweer branches after 2 weeks then clippedd again juust before they went in bloom.they started bloom sep.1st,,,ill get pix up soon,,


i missed u guys
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Awwww we missed you, too.
 
TheStickMan

TheStickMan

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Great thread. I've just bought myself a 315 CMH to replace my 400w HPS. hoping for good things. What is the ideal lamp distance from the canopy?
 
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