CFL Wrap Around

Fish Meal, there' another meat product marijuana can use, in fact there's some in my organic mix I just noticed. Ya I couldn't really see myself using blood meal, my plants aren't little vampires....or are they? it would explain a lot.

Ya i've been using molasses, I think I mentioned, just didn't know how useful it was.

I wanted to post some bud shots finally. they're still pretty young guys, 2- 4 weeks into flowering. If you're wondering why I have one long Sativa growing in my indica garden, the story goes like this. I tried to flower it by the window, basically it got no light for long periods of time, and just seemed to hibernate. I went to kill it but it had an awesome root-mass, I tried to kill most of the mites investing it, then I transplanted it and stuck it back in my grow room, and hey it's producing bud again! Plant has had quite a bit of stresses, I'm not quite sure what to expect.

nice pics north them girls are lookin damn good i really like the way the 1st and 2nd bud pics lookyou will be smokin summ killer soon! keep it up!!!

what's the strain(s)? they look sweet and getting sweeter

The one's growing buds right now are Shiva by Dr. Atomic. Dr. Atomic liked to travel to Afganistan and smoke hash before the place erupted into a warzone. he collected various eastern and european strains. He uses Northern-lights as the base for most of his strain. You can kinda see the afgan influence in some of these shots.

Dr Atomic developed this Shiva from: Shiva (an Afgani strain), along with NL, and Super Crystal. Short and compact with big buds.

Indoor Flowering: 7 - 9 weeks

I noticed that yuo clip the ends off of some of your leaves giving them a squared off look, what purpose does this serve, if you don't mind my beginner question?

Heya North

Great thread you have going man. It's always nice to see people that truly understand the limited light penetration of a CFL, and how close you can/should have them. You seem do be doing well keeping them between your plants, I know this can be risky business I do have an idea/suggestion in that department, actually.

First off, for your 42w bulbs, you can buy these $3 gutter shields at a any hardware store made out of metal mesh. They come with a cut down one side for different sized gutters so it can be fitted very well to any 42w or smaller sized bulb. This allows the plants to grow against the cage, and you dont have to keep moving things around to avoid burning. With the bulbs that close, the radiant light that you cant see gets through foliage. So if the plant is near the bulb it will absorb well even if its shaded by a leaf over the cage.

Now for the larger bulbs, I would just use some hardware cloth cut to fit. Just make sure its a slightly fine metal mesh, not like chicken wire or anything or the leaves would get through.


I cannot take credit for this idea, it was taught to me by a great man. He has used it and I am starting to implement it on some 42w CFLs. Its very nice for those of us that like to keep our CFLs where they belong, right up on the nugs It seems like the heat given off the bulb does not get hot enough to fry your greenery, just the bulb itself.

Hope that helps, let me know if you consider it and how it works out if so!!


Subscribed, Ill be watchin And +rep for gettin your CFLs all up in your plants business! Ill let you know when I add my caged 42w CFLs to my 150HPS in my mini fridge.

Peace
KB

I was thinking of putting some mesh around the lower part of my 130 watt, just to protect from any fires starting. But in a stroke of dumb luck I happened to buy this overpriced little tower fan. The fan I thought was strange design, and not worth $32, but it was all the last fan at the store. The thing just happened to be perfect for cooling my 130 watt bulb, I can even touch, and hold the normally burning hot bulb. So luckily I never had to make a mesh casing. I found I could put my plants so close it doesn't even matter if a leaf is brushing against the light bulb. However I try to keep at least an inch of space around the light just to be on the safe side. The fan blowing also seems to keep leaves from touching the light in the first place, so I never really worry there could be a fire. The fan I thought was crap turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

Thought I would update with some new photos. The larger bud is Shiva and some orange hairs are just starting to appear,it's now 35 days into flowering. The topped, shrubby looking plant is also Shiva, and is 28 says into flowering. I included some photos of couple more plants only about 14 - 21 days into flowering, and these would be the Geronimo, which is my own strain made from a mix of Dutch Treat, crossed with Ty-Lights.

Also you'll notice I purchased some little Venus Fly-Traps. The batch looked pretty haggard in the store, and some even had what looked like fungus gnats. Some were black and outright dead, or had visible mold on them. A worker on the floor told me I would get a discount because they had been damaged somehow. So I picked out two of the best ones. Later upon mentioning this to the cashier, she suddenly became very defensive, and without so much as even looking at the plants she began telling me everything I was saying was wrong, and she'd seen they were all in mint condition. When I asked her about the fungus gnats flying around some of them, she didn't seem to have an answer, but assured me whatever they were, it was perfectly natural. She did end up giving me 10% off, but in my opinion acted like a total bitch. It was like she wasn't going to hear anything about gardening from a young guy with a band T-shirt, because "what the fuck would I know right."

Later, online, I confirmed the plants had been in bad shape, but hopefully at least 1 of my 2 will live. I don't think I will put them with my pot, but they are pretty wicked looking, and they can move surprisingly fast. Well actually, mine don't move at all, but I saw it online. Hopefully I can nurse one of these little carnivores back to health. If they die, I'm going back to Art Knapps and shoving them right up that lady's ass to go along with whatever else she's carrying up there.

Anyway, enjoy the photos

well, i'm liking the shiva pics, then again i like most bud pics
have you sampled shiva yet, or will these gals be your 1st shiva smoke?
i'm on the ndless quest of the best indica that is strong, but not knock out, and with a nice head high

growone said:

well, i'm liking the shiva pics, then again i like most bud pics
have you sampled shiva yet, or will these gals be your 1st shiva smoke?
i'm on the ndless quest of the best indica that is strong, but not knock out, and with a nice head high

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I've heard that causing false closings of the mouths of fly traps can cause a lot of problems for the plant, as it doesnt open back up until a normal digestion cycle would be done and the plant movement uses alot of energy, so watch out for that! I might be remembering wrong but I think I saw this on some discovery special on predatory plants.

LOOKIN GOOD NORTH!!! KEEP IT UP CHECK OUT MY NEW PICS WHEN U GET TIME https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/205127-zona-mid-aero-cfl-grow-16.html

growone said:

well, i'm liking the shiva pics, then again i like most bud pics
have you sampled shiva yet, or will these gals be your 1st shiva smoke?
i'm on the ndless quest of the best indica that is strong, but not knock out, and with a nice head high

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Just curious, why indica? Is it for height reasons? If so, I suggest you try Joint Doctor's "Diesel Ryder" which is an autoflowering cross between Low Ryder 2 and NYC Diesel. Its THC content is quite high at 17-20%, and the high is as heady or full body as you make it.

I harvested my first batch at about 10% amber trichs and the high was a powerful head high that made you want to go do something. On the other hand, if I had let it go another week or so, it would be some couchlock full body stone bud. The best part is that they only take 8-10 weeks from seed to harvest, and you can grow them SMALL. I finished 2 pollinated ones and one was 5.5 inches the other was 6.75 at HARVEST! Plus I got 472 beautiful seeds so I wont have to pollinate ever again probably. Typical height at harvest is 12-20 inches.

I believe the Diesel Ryder is quite the mutt as far as genetics go. Obviously part ruderalis due to the autflowering strain, but I think the rest of the makeup is pretty close to 50/50 Sativa/Indica.

Check my mini fridge grow if you're intterested in the strain.

Peace
KB

Thanks KolourBlind, I've seen lots of really accomplished growers using Lowryder genetics, and NYC Disel. The two mixed together sounds like a sweet combo. I dont actually know that much about auto-flowering plants, or lowryders. I see the advantage of lowryders, being that they save space, but what's the reason for "auto-flowering"? I thought that was just for oudoor growers who needed their plants to flower earlier?

Someone was asking about the High of 'Shiva' and whether I'd smoked it. YES I have smoked some and it is awesome, it's got Afghan, NL, and something called Super Crystal in it, so the high is nice and heavy. Although really euphoric too, especially when harvested after only 7 weeks. This time around I'm using better organic fertilizers and also added another UVB bulb, so I expect this time the high could be some powerful stuff.

I would like to grow some NYC Diesel @ some point but my next grow will be F'n Blue. For those of you who don't know this a cross between two very special plants. First strain is Blueberry of course. The second is Fucking Incredible, the most sought after seeds from Vancouver Island Seeds Co. Fucking Incredible is a newer strain which lots of people are wondering about, so I wanted to grow some.

NorthWest69 said:

Thanks KolourBlind, I've seen lots of really accomplished growers using Lowryder genetics, and NYC Disel. The two mixed together sounds like a sweet combo. I dont actually know that much about auto-flowering plants, or lowryders. I see the advantage of lowryders, being that they save space, but what's the reason for "auto-flowering"? I thought that was just for oudoor growers who needed their plants to flower earlier?

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Well the difference between autoflower & non autoflower strains is that you dont have to "trick" it into flowering. At roughly 3 weeks it shows sex and begins to flower, instead of switching it to 12/12 to force flowering. They will grow from seed to harvest with any light cycle between 12/12 and 24/0. Downside is that you cant clone them, upside is that they stay short & finish a month sooner than non AF strains. Seeing little 3-4 inch tall plants showing sex amazes me every time.

If you have lots of room for big no AF plants with the light penetration of a HID to back them up then you will get much more from that setup. But if you grow outdoors, are limited on space, lighting or have 2 grow cabs like I do, they are perfect. Its nice to have that "in between" harvest when waiting 3+ months on the non AF strains to be ready.

I would say 6 to 10 Diesel Ryders would fit in my mini fridge all the way to harvest under a single 150w HPS. Its just hoping you get that many females, which is a pain. The smoke is so nice though and it is one STANKY ass plant haha!

KB

I'm curious to see how effective these 150 watt HPS systems are, I was thinking of picking one up.
I have to say, I'm not really excited about not be able to clone autoflowering strains. Have you tried breeding them Kolourblind? Is it just as simple as putting a male and female together somewhere, and you have a lifetime supply of autoflowering NYC diesel seeds?
Or are you buying new seeds every time?

kolorblind

thanks for the info, that's interesting on those effects
couple of reasons for indica, not really height constrained
one is i have moderate depression anxiety issues, too racy does not mix well with the anxiety problem, indica's should help there
on the other hand, i do like the up of sativa, so i'm questing for the perfect mix, i have seen that diesel's in general seem to have good effects on depression symptoms
turned out to be a fine thread, +rep to you and thread starter

NorthWest69 said:

I'm curious to see how effective these 150 watt HPS systems are, I was thinking of picking one up.
I have to say, I'm not really excited about not be able to clone autoflowering strains. Have you tried breeding them Kolourblind? Is it just as simple as putting a male and female together somewhere, and you have a lifetime supply of autoflowering NYC diesel seeds?
Or are you buying new seeds every time?

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Hey North, sorry I missed your question the other day or I would have responded sooner.

Since I like to type a lot and this story is very relevant to the question asked, allow me to take you on a journey

There is a person I know that is a great friend and mentor in the ways of growing MJ. A while back he made a special trip to see me and bring me some of his Diesel Ryder seeds that he had just picked off a batch he grew. Little did I know that he was toting around 3 Diesel Ryder plants as well to give me. 2 were female and 1 was male, they were all about 30 days old and in 16oz Styrofoam cups. It was the best present EVER!

I replanted the females in 1gal containers, but the roots were SERIOUSLY bound up so at harvest they were only 5.5 and 6.75 inches tall!! It was nuts. The male, I left in the cup because I didnt want him getting too big. I put all 3 in a cabinet, and when the pollen sacs on the male were starting to pop open, I just picked him up and shook him over both plants real good. Worrying that I didnt pollinate the females well enough, I left him in there another night, then the next day I picked pollen sacs off by hand and squeezed them over the buds on the female, sprinkling pollen allover them. Lets just day that I did MORE than enough. Off the 2 little 1/2 foot tall plants I yielded 9 grams of bud and 472 seeds!! Thats right, Four Hundred Seventy-Two (not a typo, lol)!!

Typically I hear of people getting 100 or so seeds per plant, but I say go all out so you dont have to pollinate again. I have more seeds than I will probably ever need, considering i want to grow other strains as well. That number isnt even including the probably 200+ immature seeds that I didnt use!

So in short, yes it is as simple as putting a male & female together. It just has to be at the right time. As long as the female has white hairs, it can be pollinated. As long as the males pollen sacs have started to burst open, it can pollinate the females. My male wasn't ready to pollinate until the females were about 5 weeks old, and by that time had LOTS of white hairs. From what Ive read, each white hair is a potential seed, so I think that's why I got so many seeds. In my case I was happy with the results, I have 4 more plants finishing very soon, 2 of which are SEEDLESS Diesel Ryders (cant wait) plus I have over half the bud left from the seeded batch still (saving for a trip soon). So the loss of bud was WELL worth the seeds I got out of it. Also, when you pollinate a plant, it will focus more energy into making seeds than producing bud, so the bud will be very airy and less potent. it was still enough to get us high for a couple to 3 hours though!

If you want I can post pictures of the females, the male, the after pics, seed pics, etc. Just let me know, dont wanna flood your thread with my pics lol.

Peace
KB

Sweet man, wasn't sure if breeding lowryder, always results in more lowryders, bit I guess why wouldn't it?

try flushing that one plant?? maybe putting her into a fresh pot with a fresh growing medium?

What plant u talking about Gangaluvr? Could be my Venus Flytrap for all I know?
If you are talking about the plant with the skinny yellow leaves. I'm one step ahead of you. This is my Ty-Sativa, and I transplanted it, flushed it and have been giving it organic nutes. It seems to be making a come-back. To make a long story short i was taken out of my growroom for like a month, but now it seems to be growing buds again. I should post some new pictures of this plants recovery, and I will soon.