CFL/T12 grow 1ST grow... =) +rep thx

jcdws602

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Sounds good.That a/c is a great investment take my word, it will be your savior during summer months especially since you plan on using HID in the future.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.Yeah just keep checking Craigslist and you will find some kick ass deals.I went and picked up that Hanna ph/tds/ec meter I found on Craigslist like I mentioned,just got done calibrating the ph and tds and ready to use.
 

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livelife8345

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:wall:SHOOT!! forgot the pics here ya guys go this is to my last post my bad =/ =)

yeah and my roomates suck cus they like it super f-ing hot:fire: in the house idk why either but its hot usually in the place as well so it will be nice for the plants:leaf: and i lmao!! =):clap:

p.s. plants will be back tomorrow if they are not all dead:-( by that time =( PEACE!!! =)
 

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livelife8345

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Sounds good.That a/c is a great investment take my word, it will be your savior during summer months especially since you plan on using HID in the future.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.Yeah just keep checking Craigslist and you will find some kick ass deals.I went and picked up that Hanna ph/tds/ec meter I found on Craigslist like I mentioned,just got done calibrating the ph and tds and ready to use.
OH!!! and that thermometer is neat lookin what in the heck is tds?? do i need that?? i have one that does moisture light and ph?
 

jcdws602

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TDS=total dissolved solids EC=electrical conductivity I grow hydroponically, here is an article that is very informative I know it's kinda long but worth the read just in case you ever venture into the world of hydroponics.
TDS, EC, PPM, microSiemens:

What do all those letters mean?
What is the best way to calibrate a TDS or Ec meter?
Answer: Standard reference solutions are used. The bottles are marked with the conductivity (EC) value in microSiemens/cm and the corresponding ppM values for sodium chloride (NaCl) and potassium chloride (KCl) solutions, and sometimes for a "442" reference mixture. The conductivity of sodium chloride solutions is close to that of hydroponic mineral nutrients, so a "1000 ppM NaCl" standard is most frequently used when calibrating the meter for hydroponic solutions. You should follow the calibration instructions in the manual which the manufacturer of your meter provided.​
What does a TDS or EC meter measure?
Answer: The electrical conductivity (EC) of your nutrient results from motion of mineral ions when the meter applies an electrical voltage. The ppM value of a sodium chloride solution happens to be very close to half of its conductivity value (in microSiemens/cm), so many meters display the conductivity as an equivalent NaCl amount.​
What does the term parts per million (ppm) mean?
Answer: It is a common unit for measuring the concentration of elements in the nutrient solution. One ppm is one part by weight of the mineral in one million parts of solution.​
How do I convert between TDS and EC readings?
Answer: To obtain an approximate sodium chloride TDS value, multiply the EC reading (in microSiemens/cm) by 1000 and divide by 2.

To get an EC value, multiply the ppm reading by 2 and divide by 1000.
Thus, if your EC is 1:
1*1000/2= 500 ppm.
And if your ppm is 500:
500*2/1000= 1 EC​
Is it better to use an EC or a TDS meter?
Answer: If you have plant nutrient recommendations in EC units, an EC meter is convenient. If your plant nutrient recommendations are in ppM values, a sodium chloride TDS calibration is easier to use.​
Why is conductivity of the nutrient important?
Answer: Conductivity is a measure of the strength of the nutrient solution. The higher the conductivity, the more dissolved solids there are in the solution. Delicate plants, cuttings, and seedlings can experience fertilizer burn if the conductivity is too high. Once the plants begin growing, they need a stronger nutrient solution, so conductivity must be increased by adding concentrated nutrient. Some plants prefer a milder nutrient strength, while others grow better and produce better quality fruit with a higher concentration.​
How does conductivity affect plant growth?
Answer: Conductivity is really a measure of the nutrients in the solution. Low conductivity implies a low nutrient concentration, which usually results in nutritional deficiencies and slow growth rates of your plants. One can look at the situation as a higher conductivity is more food for your plants. However, be careful of very high levels as this can burn and or kill the plant.​
What about water temperature?
Answer: Temperature of the nutrient solution should be in the range of 65 to 80 degrees Fahrenheit (18 to 26 degrees Celsius). Before adding water to your reservoir, it is a good idea to allow it to come to the same temperature as the water in the reservoir. Plants do not like rapid temperature changes, especially in the root zone. Aquarium heaters can be used to warm the nutrient solution in the winter, and look for "chillers" to cool the solution in the summer if high temperature becomes a problem.​
What about fresh air?
Answer: Ventilation is often overlooked as a problem. Plants absorb nutrients when the water molecules in the leaves respire (i.e. evaporate). Better ventilation aids a high transpiration rate, which translates into a greater rate of nutrient uptake. Remember that ventilation means changing the air, not just blowing it around the room (circulation).​
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

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i wanna see how this ends.
Hopefully it ends with a bowl, a lighter, some giggles, and chocolate bar!
:!::idea: Livelife, when positioning your CFL's keep in mind that more usable light comes off the SIDE of the bulb than off the top. Its the little things that add up over the course of a long grow that make a big difference.
 

livelife8345

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TDS=total dissolved solids EC=electrical conductivity I grow hydroponically, here is an article that is very informative I know it's kinda long but worth the read just in case you ever venture into the world of hydroponics.
TDS, EC, PPM, microSiemens:

What do all those letters mean?
What is the best way to calibrate a TDS or Ec meter?
Answer: Standard reference solutions are used. The bottles are marked with the conductivity (EC) value in microSiemens/cm and the corresponding ppM values for sodium chloride (NaCl) and potassium chloride (KCl) solutions, and sometimes for a "442" reference mixture. The conductivity of sodium chloride solutions is close to that of hydroponic mineral nutrients, so a "1000 ppM NaCl" standard is most frequently used when calibrating the meter for hydroponic solutions. You should follow the calibration instructions in the manual which the manufacturer of your meter provided.
What does a TDS or EC meter measure?
Answer: The electrical conductivity (EC) of your nutrient results from motion of mineral ions when the meter applies an electrical voltage. The ppM value of a sodium chloride solution happens to be very close to half of its conductivity value (in microSiemens/cm), so many meters display the conductivity as an equivalent NaCl amount.
What does the term parts per million (ppm) mean?
Answer: It is a common unit for measuring the concentration of elements in the nutrient solution. One ppm is one part by weight of the mineral in one million parts of solution.
How do I convert between TDS and EC readings?
Answer: To obtain an approximate sodium chloride TDS value, multiply the EC reading (in microSiemens/cm) by 1000 and divide by 2.

To get an EC value, multiply the ppm reading by 2 and divide by 1000.
Thus, if your EC is 1:
1*1000/2= 500 ppm.
And if your ppm is 500:
500*2/1000= 1 EC
Is it better to use an EC or a TDS meter?
Answer: If you have plant nutrient recommendations in EC units, an EC meter is convenient. If your plant nutrient recommendations are in ppM values, a sodium chloride TDS calibration is easier to use.
Why is conductivity of the nutrient important?
Answer: Conductivity is a measure of the strength of the nutrient solution. The higher the conductivity, the more dissolved solids there are in the solution. Delicate plants, cuttings, and seedlings can experience fertilizer burn if the conductivity is too high. Once the plants begin growing, they need a stronger nutrient solution, so conductivity must be increased by adding concentrated nutrient. Some plants prefer a milder nutrient strength, while others grow better and produce better quality fruit with a higher concentration.
How does conductivity affect plant growth?
Answer: Conductivity is really a measure of the nutrients in the solution. Low conductivity implies a low nutrient concentration, which usually results in nutritional deficiencies and slow growth rates of your plants. One can look at the situation as a higher conductivity is more food for your plants. However, be careful of very high levels as this can burn and or kill the plant.
What about water temperature?
Answer: Temperature of the nutrient solution should be in the range of 65 to 80 degrees Fahrenheit (18 to 26 degrees Celsius). Before adding water to your reservoir, it is a good idea to allow it to come to the same temperature as the water in the reservoir. Plants do not like rapid temperature changes, especially in the root zone. Aquarium heaters can be used to warm the nutrient solution in the winter, and look for "chillers" to cool the solution in the summer if high temperature becomes a problem.
What about fresh air?
Answer: Ventilation is often overlooked as a problem. Plants absorb nutrients when the water molecules in the leaves respire (i.e. evaporate). Better ventilation aids a high transpiration rate, which translates into a greater rate of nutrient uptake. Remember that ventilation means changing the air, not just blowing it around the room (circulation).
thats a great thing to know have printed it out and put it in with my grow ideas and facts and ish! =) lol good stuff thanks man. and thanks for standin by man its been a while that you have been postin help =) thanks!!!:clap::weed:
i wanna see how this ends.
welcome skunk!! =)

well my friend youve come right at the right time!!!.... they are all dead!! lol well just keep on a readin lol i explain further down

Hopefully it ends with a bowl, a lighter, some giggles, and chocolate bar!
:!::idea: Livelife, when positioning your CFL's keep in mind that more usable light comes off the SIDE of the bulb than off the top. Its the little things that add up over the course of a long grow that make a big difference.
amen to a good finish!! lol im likEn the sound of that!! =) as for the light part im always thinkin on how to tweak things that you guys suggest i do, so ima be thinkin of a master plan!! lol but by the end those are gonna be sideways better believe it!!! =) lmao

ALRIGHTY DOWN TO BUISNESS LOL!!!

okay so they were all crisp when i got there. My friend murdered the plants cus i told him to try and keep the shirt off from covering the box area so i walked in this afternoon and it was down and the lights were on =( and it was 113 degrees GEEZ!!
and i didnt get pics cus i was pretty upset and wanted to dump them so i didnt have to look no more.
and i can tell they had grown while i was gone they were all a few inches tall, he just killed them.

SO A LIL ADVICE?? THANKS!
so they are dead and i have a bunch of seeds germing, and have the mini green house to start them up got the foxfarm soil, some perlite, some distilled water, and smoke to watch the magic.

now the advice part ummm should i start new fresh thread considering this would be second grow or just make this one long as hell!!?? =) advice appreciated =)

pics below of my plants that look very similiar to weed plants =) that i have all over my house and balcony lol =) its just such a pleasent lookin plant lmao its actually a lucky plant and all lights are in place now the two other fans are placed in there and the new digital therm and all pots placed ready for action and a shot of my new germing method i read about and a pic of the overall stealthy ass setup if you havent seen it

PEACE THANKS FOR READING LONG ASS POSTINGS LOL SMOKE =0NE:leaf:
 

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itsgrowinglikeaweed

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RIP little ones... Thats too bad. Live and learn.
Start a new thread. Use a catchy title to get lots of viewers. And shoot us a link to it here.
For seedlings, any more than 1 bulb per plant is a waste of watts. Seedlings dont need that much light. And let them dry out between waterings. This is important to build a stong rootball. I almost gaurantee that you were watering your last batch too much.
Keep reading up in here and best of luck with your new grow.
:weed::peace:
 

livelife8345

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:clap::clap:okay guys this is prob my last post to my first journal so just want to thank everyone for stickin around if you did and giving your input.:clap::clap:

well anyways i got a bunch of them germed just right and placed in the mini green house in above pic with soil. i should be expecting those to sprout in a cpl days, and once they do a new journal will be up =) YAY!!!

so i was thinkin:idea: and ive come up with a cpl ideas for a new thread name lol
"CFL SUPER STEALTH"
"RETURN OF THE CFL'S"
"OCEAN FOX FARM/CFL"
"SECOND GROW":wall:
LOL the last one was a joke but what do you think would catch the audience!? lmao im kiddin unless you really have an idea that you want to throw into the mix? lol throw a lil +rep into it? lol alrighty peeps "Blaze two get at me in the morning"
 

tom__420

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I'm always a fan of the descriptive thread titles. Such as " 2nd Grow, CFL, (strain), Fox Farms Ocean Forest" something like that yah know so people can know what you got going on in your journal before clicking on it
 

anclado

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your baby`s growing nice... i`ve got right now my 1st grow with 3 babies younger than yours... and hoping to be as cute as yours!
btw... use aluminium paper!!! it works great
 

livelife8345

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hello everyone hopefully some of yall who were previously helpin out on this grow will have noticed i put a second one up i would invite yall one by one but there is a bit of pages here so if you would like to track whats going on ive started a fresh thread fo sho well thanks to everybody here that helped out or kept me company or gave there advice but im done with this thread if you get this please keep watch on new thread as for there should be somewhat of some action soon on there

SMOKE =ONE!!
 
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