CFL or Sodium???

DragonKnight1920

Active Member
Hi, I have a 600w sodium above 9 plants and I was thinking of adding two 125w CFL's, One either side of the sodium, woudl this make a diffrence in yield? or would it yield the same as a 600w all on its own???

Thanks people
 

boricuaboi

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No Not At All U Should Be Fine If Anything It Going To Boost The Lighting Yield Make It More Powerful For Your Plants
 

boricuaboi

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Also Get Like A Vainity Fixtuer With 3 Or 4 Bulb Outlets And Then Just Get Sum Y Connectors And Wire It And Plug Them In So U Will Have 6 Lights Blues On Each End And Reds In The Center Or However U Want It
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Mix Them Up 4 Red 2 Blue
WRONG! You have enough for VEGGING.
In my opinion, I'd get a couple of spiral CFLs, soft white, red spectrums, low Kelvins, of the highest wattage I could find. Lowes and Home Depot have 42 watts for $11 plus $7 to $11 each for the sockets and reflectors. 85 watts are about $29 each. 65 watts are about $19, but Lowes and HD only have up to 42 watt bulbs, unless you buy the spot light fixtures.
 

Spittn4cash

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if U get the CFL's as close to the plants as you can to the plants then it will help a lot, or if U use the CFL's strictly for the under growth, and use the HPS for the canopy it will increase Ur yeild by a lil.

and yea like dude said above,

Vegetative Growing - Blue spectrum
Flowering - Red spectrum.

but they will grow regardless of what spectrum ur using as long as you keep them on the appropriate photo period time and at the right distances..
 

everchill

Active Member
what are we growing with christmas tree lights now?are these different color lights during flowering really going to get me higher.or will the hps/mv/flo mix ihave do what i want it to?i have two 4ft flourescent grow lights,one hps250w and one mv250w.the flourescents are on the sides and the hps and mv are side by side shining down on the plant.ive used the same lights for vegging and flowering.could i have done this better with what i have here any suggestions?
 

boricuaboi

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WRONG! You have enough for VEGGING.
In my opinion, I'd get a couple of spiral CFLs, soft white, red spectrums, low Kelvins, of the highest wattage I could find. Lowes and Home Depot have 42 watts for $11 plus $7 to $11 each for the sockets and reflectors. 85 watts are about $29 each. 65 watts are about $19, but Lowes and HD only have up to 42 watt bulbs, unless you buy the spot light fixtures.
How am i wrong if im using thme for my setup?what r u talkn about!!!
 

catgirl

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Hi, I have a 600w sodium above 9 plants and I was thinking of adding two 125w CFL's, One either side of the sodium, woudl this make a diffrence in yield? or would it yield the same as a 600w all on its own???

Thanks people
I'm just a newb and have started to flower under one 105w coolwhite cfl (coolwhite cfls' run at around 4200 kelvin) for one plant which is incredibly healthy and bushy with no stretch. Anyways that's my disclaimer out of the way...

So I have read that flourescents are almost perfect PAR or usable plant light and cfls' in general are x4 the equivalent light out put, so for nine plants under only 600 w sodium then I'd say do it because you can't make it any worse and in theory it should improve things. For that many plants I'd be thinking of adding at least 3 cfls' to the canopy, plus they are cheap as to run...
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Hi, I have a 600w sodium above 9 plants and I was thinking of adding two 125w CFL's, One either side of the sodium, woudl this make a diffrence in yield? or would it yield the same as a 600w all on its own???
Adding CFLs when you already have HPS is like taping a flashlight to your front bumper when you already have 4 high-intensity headlights. The benefit will be negligible, but it will cost money to buy and operate the CFLs.

Also keep in mind that CFL light output is low-intensity. A CFL simply doesn't produce the high luminous intensity (brightness) of HID lighting. 1 watt on a CFL doesn't equal a watt used on an HPS, for example. It's hard to assign a specific CFL to HPS watt-for-watt equivalency because we're talking about apples and applesauce. It's the difference between a gentle lawn sprinkler and a pressure washer with very broad coverage.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Hi, I have a 600w sodium above 9 plants and I was thinking of adding two 125w CFL's, One either side of the sodium, woudl this make a diffrence in yield? or would it yield the same as a 600w all on its own???

Thanks people
your 600 watt sodiums are as close as you can place them, and they are putting out mucho heat and burning mucho power.
IF you want to invest more money, I would not invest in more High Heat, High Power usage lights. I just bet that you are getting great results for VEGGING now. But if you want t invest more into YIELD and POTENCY, I would go with CFLS, taht you can put two inches away from a bud to increase it's size, growth rate and potency. You can't do that with more sodium bulbs.
Yep, it is a matter of opinion. Some of us drive Nissan Altimas, some of us drive Lincoln Navigator SUVs, some ride Harley bikes, some of us are in Kias, some in big cars, some in small.............we could argue it all day long, ......and we all ride, but we ride differently.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
But if you want t invest more into YIELD and POTENCY, I would go with CFLS, taht you can put two inches away from a bud to increase it's size, growth rate and potency. You can't do that with more sodium bulbs.
Rosey, sorry, but HPS makes high-intensity light- they don't need to be 2" from the leaves. CFLs make low-intensity light. It's that light intensity that makes the bud weight and density. If one needs to cover a larger area, one doesn't usually add more HPS lights, rather one normally uses a bigger HPS.

I know you love your CFLs, but a high-output grow requires HPS- and the ventilation to cool it.

Yep, it is a matter of opinion. Some of us drive Nissan Altimas, some of us drive Lincoln Navigator SUVs, some ride Harley bikes, some of us are in Kias, some in big cars, some in small.............we could argue it all day long, ......and we all ride, but we ride differently.
No, Rosey, this one is not a matter of opinion. HPS lighting will always outperform CFLs due to the light intensity issue.

There's plenty of good applications for fluoros and CFLs and good reasons to use them (of course, I use fluoros in my clonebox), but it's a serious compromise compared to HPS, particularly in flowering.

If you have constraints on ventilation, where you have enough air motion to provide the plants with fresh CO2 but not enough to cool an HPS, flowering with CFLs may be the difference between being able to grow in that space or not at all. However, the tradeoff is a MUCH reduced yield and density.

There are small HPS lights out there- 60, 100, 150, 250W. Any one of them will outperform CFLs on a watt-for-watt basis. Small HPS lights will produce the same density as their bigger cousins because they still produce high-intensity light- but lower power output means less area coverage. However, even small HPS lights make a fair amount of heat- nothing like the big ones- but they may be a better compromise between a big CFL and a monster HPS for certain small spaces with limited ability to be ventilated..
 

DragonKnight1920

Active Member
After alot of research I have found out some intresting things. HPS light cannot be absorbed as well or efficently as CFL, I'm currently on my Wii so will post facts tomorrow! Apparently it's not all down to POWER, it's how well the plant will photosynthesise with the light! Since combining 600w HPS with a 200w CFL (CFL under canopy) I have noticed a scarly large increase in yield! have I stumbuled on to something Big?. This is now my own little experiment and will keep you all posted with pics too! till tomorrow take care
 

catgirl

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After alot of research I have found out some intresting things. HPS light cannot be absorbed as well or efficently as CFL, I'm currently on my Wii so will post facts tomorrow! Apparently it's not all down to POWER, it's how well the plant will photosynthesise with the light! Since combining 600w HPS with a 200w CFL (CFL under canopy) I have noticed a scarly large increase in yield! have I stumbuled on to something Big?. This is now my own little experiment and will keep you all posted with pics too! till tomorrow take care
Yes this is what I got from my research also. Looking forward to your next post and learning how your experiment goes. 8)
 

mo201320

Active Member
DUDE its a weed, that shit will grow from fuckin incandesent it just about how much you want, everyone should max thier shit out, a 4x4 spot is good for a 1000w hps for flower, but you should get about 2500 lumens per plant for ideal growth veg and flower, but there are sooooo many factors to consider, however, lighting and the strain are number 2 and 1 respectively~
 
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