Cfl Grow Box, blue mystic, opinions

Update: today i bought new soil, transplanted the 3 seedlings into Coast of Maine Soil, moved the plants closer to the light, and watered them. I only have about 18 inches inside my box, shoud i start building another box or how do i keep them under 19 inches? Remember, this is a high stealth grow, i have it hidden in a back room in my basement where no one in my house goes, it would be a tad obvious if i was to build a huge wood box, so please some ways to keep it small, Thanks!

Everything i say is a lie, all pictures are found on the web or images i have made from crayons and glue, i do not will never and have not grown or intend to grow marijuana.

my first grow i kept under 19 inches and got an oz off one plant so it's not an issue. first thing to do is get the plants as close as you can. cfl's don't put off much heat so thats not an issue. My plants are literally half an inch away from the lights. If you do that it'll make your plants grow out not up. when they get older do some lst training to help them bush out too. and another simple thing to remember to keep them small is when they flower they will double or triple their size so plan on flowering at about 8 inches in height. other than that you'll need to talk to one of the veteran growers to see if there are any other methods.

Everything looks good tho man. good luck

Update: Ok there was some nice growth since last night, the seed under soil came up, but, i was looking at the leaves and 1 of the 2 snapped off ), will it still survive? will it grow really slow? or will it be normal? Anyways the plants grew quite a bit ( the first pot leaves i mean ) i think the new soil is working well. i moved them very close too the light so it seemed to have worked, ive been checking like 4 times a day to make sure they are not burning, looking good so far. Pics Down there
P.S. please will that plant live??

lights look a lot better now and your plant should be fine with only one leaf

Update: so i named them all, Sydney, Emily, and Izzy. Sydney is looking amazing the root ball is already down to the bottom of the cup, Izzy survived the single leaf crisis, and Emily is looking very good. Emily and Sydney are getting their second pairs of speared leafs, Izzy's first set is just coming in. Pic's Below

blue mystics may suffer mag def at some point, got lots of yellowing early on, just fed them epsom salts, they are a good plant producing some good bud. look forward to see how you get on .

del66666 said:

blue mystics may suffer mag def at some point, got lots of yellowing early on, just fed them epsom salts, they are a good plant producing some good bud. look forward to see how you get on .

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Yes in the past few days i have started using 10-6-4 liquid nutes mixed with rain water ( not to much ) i have seen an explosion of growth the leaves grow 25% bigger each day. Should i add some epsom salts to my rain water/light nutes? and if so how much?

What is the salt for?

bluemagicman said:

Yes in the past few days i have started using 10-6-4 liquid nutes mixed with rain water ( not to much ) i have seen an explosion of growth the leaves grow 25% bigger each day. Should i add some epsom salts to my rain water/light nutes? and if so how much?

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I wouldn't bother adding cal-mag if you're not seeing nutrient deficiencies (pretty unlikely anyways until they get bigger). Cal-mag isn't usually necessary if your water source is under ground (or glacier fed) and/or you've got good soil. Rain water and deionized /RO water don't have any calcium, so you may see it if that's all you're using.

-Q

Update: Huge growth, first 3-leaf leafs are visible, lengthend the light cycle to 22/2, also moved the two side lights to the sides of the two cups and have seen results!!! also started nutes (10-6-4) very light though, will post when first three leaf's are more visable, all the roots are to the bottom of the cups, i have found 3 containers to transplant but i am going to wait until thee are 3-4 nodes, will post pics of all tomorrow.
P.S. if i veg them at 8 inches and they grow to 16 inches what kind of yields am i looking at for blue mystics?

Ok so i had to transplant 2 of 3 last night because i was paranoid of root locking, i trans planted Emily and Sydney. Pics below
1+2= Sydney
2+3= Emily
4+5= Izzy
6+7= Lighting System
8= Cover Grow Op

bluemagicman said:

Update: Huge growth, first 3-leaf leafs are visible, lengthend the light cycle to 22/2, also moved the two side lights to the sides of the two cups and have seen results!!! also started nutes (10-6-4) very light though, will post when first three leaf's are more visable, all the roots are to the bottom of the cups, i have found 3 containers to transplant but i am going to wait until thee are 3-4 nodes, will post pics of all tomorrow.
P.S. if i veg them at 8 inches and they grow to 16 inches what kind of yields am i looking at for blue mystics?

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I would leave the lights on 24 hours a day. i've hard people argue that you should and should not but in my limited experience 24/0 works fine with cfl lighting.

as far as your yield i don't know yet but i'm harvesting a 1 ft. plant today and i'll weigh it and let you know roughly what i got

jester5120 said:

I would leave the lights on 24 hours a day. i've hard people argue that you should and should not but in my limited experience 24/0 works fine with cfl lighting.

as far as your yield i don't know yet but i'm harvesting a 1 ft. plant today and i'll weigh it and let you know roughly what i got

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Thanks for the quick response, and will do on the 24/0, hope you get alot!

Made a little stop at home depot today, bought a 8-inch fan with 3 speeds, a y- light splitter, and another 42 watt 2700k cfl.
P.S. The 2 main cfls on emily and sydney are 42 watt 2700k, i know im supposed to be using a 6500k for veg but i mean the 2700k seam to be working, and im planning to start flowering in a week anyway so?

Good luck with the grow... Iv grown Nirvana's Blue Mystic a few times with good results

bluemagicman said:

Made a little stop at home depot today, bought a 8-inch fan with 3 speeds, a y- light splitter, and another 42 watt 2700k cfl.
P.S. The 2 main cfls on emily and sydney are 42 watt 2700k, i know im supposed to be using a 6500k for veg but i mean the 2700k seam to be working, and im planning to start flowering in a week anyway so?

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If your switching to flower soon so don't even bother buying the 6500K lights. You can veg with the 2700K just fine, the plant just grows slower..... And about your light schedual, I saw you went to 24/0, which is fine. The plants will grow slightly faster, but I'll promise you right now that if you went to 18/6 your roots will grow a LOT faster! I've done both, and slightly slower growth but a much larger/healthier root mass makes for bigger and better buds with the 18/6 schedual. And you didn't need to transplant yet either, guarenteed they were nowhere near to being rootbound. The plants are just way to small at this point to be root bound. Would have been fine for another 2-3 weeks in those smaller cups. IMHO

Just an FYI. lookin good! Good luck!

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If your switching to flower soon so don't even bother buying the 6500K lights. You can veg with the 2700K just fine, the plant just grows slower..... And about your light schedual, I saw you went to 24/0, which is fine. The plants will grow slightly faster, but I'll promise you right now that if you went to 18/6 your roots will grow a LOT faster! I've done both, and slightly slower growth but a much larger/healthier root mass makes for bigger and better buds with the 18/6 schedual. And you didn't need to transplant yet either, guarenteed they were nowhere near to being rootbound. The plants are just way to small at this point to be root bound. Would have been fine for another 2-3 weeks in those smaller cups. IMHO

Just an FYI. lookin good! Good luck!

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that's what i meant about good arguements both ways about 24/0 lighting. I will add tho that i have a big ass fan blowing hurricane force winds on my plants and it helps the roots grow too.

HookdOnChronics brings up a good point tho. you'll wanna make sure you have a strong root system and strong plants as well. when i did my first grow the plant couldn't support the weight of the buds and eventually had to be tied up

Update: Ok so i installed a new fan in the box blowing at crazy speeds ( not to much for the plants though) i installed the new "y" adaptor and the new 42 watt bulb, i am a bit concerned though the temps are now around 90!!! The plants seem okay though, the leaves are a tad dry however. Otherwise i saw a little bit on nute burn, so i am now just using tap water( i have a well underground not town water).
P.S. I wanted to tell y'all a little bit more about me, i am a teenager that has been diagnosed with osgood schlatter in both knees, the pain is terrible and i have to walk with crutches, medical marijuana is'nt currently legal in my state but i was with some buddies about a month ago and had my first puff and the pain was so much lessened, i also think the pain medicines the doctors are giving me aren't very safe i.e. vicodin and valium, i believe marijuana is much safer
just thought id let you all in, Thanks a ton guys

setup looks good. plants look nice and healthy too

so what made you decide to start growing so soon after first trying it?

jester5120 said:

setup looks good. plants look nice and healthy too

so what made you decide to start growing so soon after first trying it?

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Well the pain medicines are very expensive and also they didnt treat me as well as cannabis did, and like i said with my crutches i cant go out and buy it, also i didnt so soon, i had to think for about a month. Thanks for responding!
Also by coincidence i was at home depot again haha, and i got another splitter and a 27 watt 5500k cfl, looks very blue so i am anticipating it will stimulate faster veg growth.