Certainty thought experiment.

GregS · Mar 14, 2014

You might find what you are looking for in Descartes. Cogito ergo sum. You might suspend disbelief or belief with anything else, but can you doubt your own existence, even for the smallest fraction of time?

Zaehet Strife · Mar 15, 2014

GregS said:
You might find what you are looking for in Descartes. Cogito ergo sum. You might suspend disbelief or belief with anything else, but can you doubt your own existence, even for the smallest fraction of time?

If I can Imagine that my thoughts and actions, everything about me, is merely part of a simulation being played out by another creature in another realm, and that I am only being given the illusion that I exist... in that sense, I could doubt my own existence as merely an illusion.

GregS · Mar 15, 2014

So do you then doubt your existence?

Zaehet Strife · Mar 15, 2014

GregS said:
So do you then doubt your existence?

If I try, it seems as if I can.

Scroga · Mar 15, 2014

Delusions are fun

GregS · Mar 16, 2014

If you exist as an illusion, don't you still exist?

Beefbisquit · Mar 16, 2014

GregS said:
If you exist as an illusion, don't you still exist?

If you exist as an illusion, there are still only parts of you that can be illusory. Your own mind cannot be an illusion, because you're using it to question whether or not it's an illusion, proving its not illusory. If it were, you couldn't question reality in the first place.

GregS · Mar 16, 2014

There is no getting away from yourself.

Beefbisquit · Mar 16, 2014

GregS said:
There is no getting away from yourself.

You, for all intents and purposes, are your mind.

Your body could be an illusion....

Nevaeh420 · Mar 16, 2014

Scroga said:
Delusions are fun

Tell Me about it, lol.

~PEACE~

Nevaeh420 · Mar 16, 2014

Beefbisquit said:
You, for all intents and purposes, are your mind.

Your body could be an illusion....

Why couldnt your "mind" be an electronic micro chip?

~PEACE~

Beefbisquit · Mar 16, 2014

Nevaeh420 said:
Why couldnt your "mind" be an electronic micro chip?

~PEACE~

Your mind could be, but it has to exist.

Zaehet Strife · Mar 16, 2014

Beefbisquit said:
If you exist as an illusion, there are still only parts of you that can be illusory. Your own mind cannot be an illusion, because you're using it to question whether or not it's an illusion, proving its not illusory. If it were, you couldn't question reality in the first place.

Why cant the mind be an illusion given by a god?

Nevaeh420 · Mar 16, 2014

Beefbisquit said:
Your mind could be, but it has to exist.

So what youre saying is that we all could be living in the Matrix? Where all of our consciousness is just electronic chips?

~PEACE~

Nevaeh420 · Mar 16, 2014

Zaehet Strife said:
Why cant the mind be an illusion given by a god?

Welcome to gods Sim.

A very advanced race could have turned us all into the Sims.

Haha.

~PEACE~

Beefbisquit · Mar 16, 2014

Zaehet Strife said:
Why cant the mind be an illusion given by a god?

Because an illusion doesn't have substance, or it's not an illusion, it's real. The fact that I'm using my mind to respond to you, means it can't be illusory. Your responses to me, could possibly be an illusion, but not my internal monologue and thought processes.

Scroga · Mar 17, 2014

Good to see your sense of humor is doing fine George!

Nevaeh420 · Mar 17, 2014

Scroga said:
Good to see your sense of humor is doing fine George!

Thanks.

Yeah, Im fine, just a little bored with My Life.

Lol.

~PEACE~

GregS · Mar 17, 2014

"Why cant the mind be an illusion given by a god?"

Please define your terms. What are these gods? I really do not know and would sincerely like a response. I've never seen or heard from one.

eye exaggerate · Mar 17, 2014

Here's a question that I think might fit here. Either way.

If our universe was created from nothing, why would the universe be the only thing that was created? How could nothing differentiate the potential for everything? How certain are we that nothing still exists outside of the universe as the cause of that which is within it. And, most importantly, did nothing go somewhere else for a beer after?

Certainty thought experiment.

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