Causes of Foxtailing

DrOfWelshMagic

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a m8 has it going on too with his super cheese clones that are @ wk 8 +2 days, had admitted that its prob down to heat stress, up to 41C at one point AND/OR nute lock AND/OR repotting late, like 2nd week of 12/12 late?????? using AN nutes for first time too which may have contributed to lock out if indeed this was the/one of the reasons for it. agree that its not neccassarily a good thing if it affects quality and potency though, unless you are commercial grower and dont give a shit bout the quality of your buds. I would rather have 2 oz a plant of good smoke, than 3 or 4 of crap. A definitive answer to this subject i'm yet to find lol.
 
I've been told its the plants adapting to 12/12 and starting to regrow a little....an old timer told me to cut the light back by15 minutes in week six and 15more towards the end...I'm sure some strains just do it but i haven't had any problems since i started doing this..
 

snaggy

Active Member
I never experienced foxtailing,... until I ran a 2x600 Cooltube with approx. a 14" gap between bulbs,... and used AN's Overdrive for the first time. The plants that got extreme light will didn't want to ripen. These are not Foxtailing facts, just my experience. The quality of smoke sucked.
 

Bakatare666

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I am noticing a bunch of foxtailing, basically overnight, after 3 waterings of straight water, 1 water with Molasses, and last week I took a probe and broke some holes in the compacted rootball and watered with Molasses and a little food.
My rootball has filled the 5 gal. pot already at less than 4 months from sprout, and I was only getting water down the outside of the pot and not much in the center.
I noticed it is only happening to my upper buds that are within 2" of a bulb.
 

nick88

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I have a cpl strains that
i grow that foxtail.. Contacted breeder and done some research, found that it's mostly
genetics and usually occurs in upper dominant growth.. It's a good thing though lol
 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
I love foxtails and dread locks .. When I see these traits I know the herb will be Dank .. Most of my personal genetics carry this trait and I am asked about it regularly ..
 

Bakatare666

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I don't think it has been determined if it is a "Problem", but if you don't like seeing it, I guess you could always clip off the new growth..
 

RIKNSTEIN

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I don't think it has been determined if it is a "Problem", but if you don't like seeing it, I guess you could always clip off the new growth..
I've just been reading on this very same subject, what a fuckin trip. And from what I read, yes it's genetics in mostly sativa dom strains, they hold no THC value, they're for a natural insect repelent or some shit, and usually only on the tops of the main colas (Hair like chrystolith trichomes contain no THC. They exude substances that repel pests and protect foilage from dieases) it also goes on to say, at this point to give it 24 to 48 hours of dark then harvest, something about it being more resinous..I don't know, I'm a noob and just tryin to learn and understand it all, sounds good though..lol..it's all covered by "Marijuana Grow Basics" a condensed version of the grow bible by ole Jorge...
 

Bakatare666

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I've just been reading on this very same subject, what a fuckin trip. And from what I read, yes it's genetics in mostly sativa dom strains, they hold no THC value, they're for a natural insect repelent or some shit, and usually only on the tops of the main colas (Hair like chrystolith trichomes contain no THC. They exude substances that repel pests and protect foilage from dieases) it also goes on to say, at this point to give it 24 to 48 hours of dark then harvest, something about it being more resinous..I don't know, I'm a noob and just tryin to learn and understand it all, sounds good though..lol..it's all covered by "Marijuana Grow Basics" a condensed version of the grow bible by ole Jorge...
REALLY?!?!?!?!
The book said to pull after 48 hrs???????
SHIT!!!!!
I been waiting and waiting on this slow leaf dragging bitch, and been looking at the foxtailing for 2 weeks almost, and STILL got about 30% clear trichs.:?
Fuck, now what?
Wonder if I should take that advice and pull, or wait 'till I get normal all cloudy, but no telling how much longer for that.:cuss:
 

RIKNSTEIN

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REALLY?!?!?!?!
The book said to pull after 48 hrs???????
SHIT!!!!!
I been waiting and waiting on this slow leaf dragging bitch, and been looking at the foxtailing for 2 weeks almost, and STILL got about 30% clear trichs.:?
Fuck, now what?
Wonder if I should take that advice and pull, or wait 'till I get normal all cloudy, but no telling how much longer for that.:cuss:
That's a good question, it did say for accuracy in telling if it's ready, use a magnifier (30x) and go by amber colored trichomes when around 75% are amber it's ready, the more I read the more I'm confused..lol..not really just have to stop readin for awhile and let it soak in..
 

Bakatare666

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That's a good question, it did say for accuracy in telling if it's ready, use a magnifier (30x) and go by amber colored trichomes when around 75% are amber it's ready, the more I read the more I'm confused..lol..not really just have to stop readin for awhile and let it soak in..
OK, that just clarified it.
Anybody who says 'wait until you have 75% amber' shouldn't have anything in print for people to read.
 

Bakatare666

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Come to think of it, that doesn't make sense anyway, since a couple people here have mentioned the f/ tailing started for them around week 6.
 

RIKNSTEIN

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OK, that just clarified it.
Anybody who says 'wait until you have 75% amber' shouldn't have anything in print for people to read.
Come to think of it, that doesn't make sense anyway, since a couple people here have mentioned the f/ tailing started for them around week 6.
LMFAO...Dude sorry got my percentages mixed up...that is totally my brain fart, yeah 50/50 white and dark amber or redish brown "pistils" here check it out, and excuse the script transfer..

White pistils turn brownish-red as
buds
continue to ripen. In some
strains,
peak potency is when half
of the pistils are white and the other
half have turned brown
. This test is
only a general guide to peak
potency.
 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
LMFAO...Dude sorry got my percentages mixed up...that is totally my brain fart, yeah 50/50 white and dark amber or redish brown "pistils" here check it out, and excuse the script transfer..

White pistils turn brownish-red as
buds
continue to ripen. In some
strains,
peak potency is when half
of the pistils are white and the other
half have turned brown
. This test is
only a general guide to peak
potency.
Damn dude, I was wondering if you had paid for that book.
Bmeat could have a new career.
 

Jogro

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My experience/opinion is this:

Foxtailing is mostly genetic and you see it in sativa-heavy strains. Heat does seem to bring it out more. Its probably related to the intrinsic "stretchiness" of these strains under flowering. I've never seen this in an indica strain.

It usually appears towards the end of flowering. That's also when most people start doing their flushes, so maybe the two aren't directly related.

Its a little vexing to deal with if you're not accustomed to it, because all of a sudden your maturing plants burst out with new flowering growth, and you start to wonder if you should let the new buds ripen too (adding weeks more flowering time). To make matters a little worse, you can also see this in sativa-type strains that never seem to turn amber and don't want to finish.

I had this happen a bit near the end of my Mexican "schwagg" grow though I didn't take pictures of it. I don't think it really hurts the bud quality when this happens, though it may not look nice.
 

Bakatare666

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My experience/opinion is this:

Foxtailing is mostly genetic and you see it in sativa-heavy strains. Heat does seem to bring it out more. Its probably related to the intrinsic "stretchiness" of these strains under flowering. I've never seen this in an indica strain.

It usually appears towards the end of flowering. That's also when most people start doing their flushes, so maybe the two aren't directly related.

Its a little vexing to deal with if you're not accustomed to it, because all of a sudden your maturing plants burst out with new flowering growth, and you start to wonder if you should let the new buds ripen too (adding weeks more flowering time). To make matters a little worse, you can also see this in sativa-type strains that never seem to turn amber and don't want to finish.

I had this happen a bit near the end of my Mexican "schwagg" grow though I didn't take pictures of it. I don't think it really hurts the bud quality when this happens, though it may not look nice.
I noticed mine starting to do it at day 60 of 12/12, and I've still got more coming out with even the tops of some upper buds starting to extend the growth over 1/4".
 
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