Can't Figure IT OUT!!

theloadeddragon · Nov 4, 2009

lol.... yeah..... you want a full spectrum of nutrition going into flower, and you gotta have those micro nutes to ensure the NPK etc (macro nutes) are able to be broken down and used..... as you get farther into flower, you can shift focus by providing nutrients that are used for specific things, but the full range is still needed

420Ben · Nov 4, 2009

OK will do.

jellis · Nov 4, 2009

Nice plants in the last post man, really nice and bushy and healthy looking. Hah, it must be the H1N1, shit. I've been playing classical music to my plant and its not doing any good lol..I hope you don't mind me posting some pics on here too - its the problem I was having and it looks kind of similar to yours except maybe even worse. Do you guys think this is a phosphorus deficiency also? I've been feeding her flowering nutes at 1/2 strength every oth. watering and giving her mollasses at 1tbsp/gal. of water. I've already flushed twice so it cant be ph lockout. She just seems to be growing way too slow and I've been seriously pulling off 7 leaves everyday on average. The last pic is how its mother looked outdoors, flowering for the same time (almost 4 weeks).

Mammath · Nov 4, 2009

jellis said:
Nice plants in the last post man, really nice and bushy and healthy looking. Hah, it must be the H1N1, shit. I've been playing classical music to my plant and its not doing any good lol..I hope you don't mind me posting some pics on here too - its the problem I was having and it looks kind of similar to yours except maybe even worse. Do you guys think this is a phosphorus deficiency also? I've been feeding her flowering nutes at 1/2 strength every oth. watering and giving her mollasses at 1tbsp/gal. of water. I've already flushed twice so it cant be ph lockout. She just seems to be growing way too slow and I've been seriously pulling off 7 leaves everyday on average. The last pic is how its mother looked outdoors, flowering for the same time (almost 4 weeks).

Hmmm your looks more like nute burn because all your tips are browning first.
If your only using 1/2 strength nutes your soil must be too potent.
What ferts do you have in the soil?

d1zl3 · Nov 4, 2009

i think a mag deficiency

jellis · Nov 4, 2009

Mammath said:
Hmmm your looks more like nute burn because all your tips are browning first.
If your only using 1/2 strength nutes your soil must be too potent.
What ferts do you have in the soil?

Well when I transplanted it into this same pot the plant's tips didn't burn until about a month into it. I'm using Fox Farms Happy Frog soil and I've leached it twice with clearex so I'd think that by now all the organic ingredients they added would be washed away right? Also, do plants grow slow when you give them too much nutes?

d1zl3 said:
i think a mag deficiency

Yeah I think it may be a mag def too. I bought calmag and added it about 2 weeks ago. I'll add it again along with bloom nutes and see what happens. If the leaves keep burning I'm just going to totally stop with the nutes and just water with straight water and then mollasses every oth. watering.

Mammath · Nov 4, 2009

jellis said:
Well when I transplanted it into this same pot the plant's tips didn't burn until about a month into it. I'm using Fox Farms Happy Frog soil and I've leached it twice with clearex so I'd think that by now all the organic ingredients they added would be washed away right? Also, do plants grow slow when you give them too much nutes?

Yeah I think it may be a mag def too. I bought calmag and added it about 2 weeks ago. I'll add it again along with bloom nutes and see what happens. If the leaves keep burning I'm just going to totally stop with the nutes and just water with straight water and then mollasses every oth. watering.

Yes over nuted plants will be stunted badly.
With all that flushing you've done it should have helped but if it got slow release ferts it will make the situation worse!
It's definitely burning.
It's certainly a lot more serious than a Mg deficiency.
Mg def' will cause the leaf margins to lighten off not burn to a crisp like that!
All your tips are burning so I would stop all nutes and just use PH'd water.
Also quit with the mollasses. If you really feel the need to give her some sugar use a proper liquid carb' like Advanced Nutrients Liquid Carbo Load.
That's all I'm gonna say because we are hijacking Bens thread...

jellis · Nov 5, 2009

Mammath said:
Yes over nuted plants will be stunted badly.
With all that flushing you've done it should have helped but if it got slow release ferts it will make the situation worse!
It's definitely burning.
It's certainly a lot more serious than a Mg deficiency.
Mg def' will cause the leaf margins to lighten off not burn to a crisp like that!
All your tips are burning so I would stop all nutes and just use PH'd water.
Also quit with the mollasses. If you really feel the need to give her some sugar use a proper liquid carb' like Advanced Nutrients Liquid Carbo Load.
That's all I'm gonna say because we are hijacking Bens thread...

I'm going to take your advice, thanks Mammath. And I apologize for the hijack Ben

voyz · Nov 5, 2009

i think i have the same problem sorry to hijack but if we can solve this problem we can use this thread for reference. heres some pics of my problem.

420Ben · Nov 5, 2009

I don't mind you guys posting :leaf:

420Ben · Nov 5, 2009

jellis said:
I'm going to take your advice, thanks Mammath. And I apologize for the hijack Ben

Hey i don't mind at all I understand the frustration with plant problems :wall:

blakkmask · Nov 5, 2009

Ive only read to the page 2 so forgive me if someone already answered you question. But the plants in question seem to have a Phosphorus (P) deficiency. The dark brownish blotches, the absence of yellow leaf margins with the presence of some rust colored spots. Those are classic signs of (P) deficiency. IMPORTANT: Make sure your ph is at an optimal range to prevent P from being "locked-out". While Phosphorus can be effectively absorbed up to 10-11 ph, once the ph drops to bellow 5.5, (P) uptake becomes very difficult for the plant. Make Sure to add a little molasses to your nutrient regiment also to prevent Potassium (K) deficiency, which you MIGHT have aswell judging by the rust colored spots....But....(K) Def. usually begins with yellow leaf margins FOLLOWED BY rust colored spots but all strains are different and no two plants are exactly the same even when using clones.

Mammath · Nov 5, 2009

voyz said:
i think i have the same problem sorry to hijack but if we can solve this problem we can use this thread for reference. heres some pics of my problem.

Your problem is lack of calcium mate.
Get some calmag into them.

dakin3d · Nov 5, 2009

I, as well, am having the same problem... Small round spots sporadically throughout the leaf, that initially are yellow and gradually turn brown. Some leaves have just turned straight brown/copper colored. This progresses until the entire leaf turns crispy brown and dies. I'll post some pics tomorrow, if you don't mind, Ben. However, they look very similar to the majority of pics already posted. Keep us updated, I am interested to see if the CalMag helps remedy the problem. I'm still vegging and need to initiate 12/12, but didn't want to go in until I solved this. Good luck, nice thread

cell1988 · Nov 5, 2009

go here http://www.marijuana-seeds.net/Thanks-ThankYou.htm

420Ben · Nov 6, 2009

So far the leaves that have the deficiency are dying off but my buds look fine. I think they are growing still.

420Ben · Nov 6, 2009

cell1988 said:
go here http://www.marijuana-seeds.net/Thanks-ThankYou.htm

I wish they had clearer pictures and an updated one.

Mammath · Nov 6, 2009

420Ben said:
So far the leaves that have the deficiency are dying off but my buds look fine. I think they are growing still.

Healthy foliage, healthy plants, healthy buds...
They're all connected.

dakin3d · Nov 6, 2009

I would appreciate any input... Hope we can get this resolved, Ben

rivers2gates · Nov 9, 2009

hey ben any news?

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