Canadian Stuff

I've never seen this podcast before, though every Canadian knows Peter Mansbridge. It showed up in my feed yesterday and I ended up watching the entire thing. It always amazed me that there are people that cover politics like sports, analyzing strategies and policies from a more-or-less neutral perspective.
These folks and their connections are saying what most of us are hoping for: Little PP's party is in disarray, with long time insiders being shut out and PP himself refusing to accept any counsel. He keeps focusing on talking points from months ago and refusing to directly oppose Trump's aggressive stance towards our country.


Intelligent, experienced banker with a long record of success who is respected worldwide vs hateful, mean, lifelong back-bencher who has never done anything but foster hate and division.

These are your choices Canada.

The liberals are liars. Instead of governing they try ruling and telling us what they want us to do. Another liberal term and our country is ruined. They've already increased our debt to insane levels. We pay 2 billion dollars a month in interest in our federal and provincial debt and the liberals are willing to increase that debt at the expense of the tax payers. Carney is a globalist he moved his businesses away from Canada to avoid paying taxes. They work on fear mongering campaigns designed to sway voters who don't really know better and watch mainstream media (whom they fund btw). The country has never been more dangerous. We have flows of illegal guns coming across the border with 99% of cargo containers never even being inspected. Gangs roam free, peoples houses are being broken into for their cars because these criminals have no consequences. The liberals passed bills so that criminals get out of jail easier and then punish law abiding citizens to push their agendas and make it look like they are doing something. Be smart. Don't fall for liberal propaganda.

Instead of silly liberal meme pictures intended to falsely tarnish people's outlooks on someone based solely on lies and false pretenses here's a little factual information on Mark Carney

They all lie to us. PP has a problem that previously he adopted the felons political style. Now he needs to pivot, and fast. I'm out in Alberta where there's been conservatives in power for almost fifty years, minus one NDP government from 2015-2019. I don't trust them the way they pass on costs of the oil and gas industry to taxpayers. Also, they are seemingly willing to ignore the wishes of people on the eastern slopes of the rockies to either mine coal, or clearcut further north. Not that I trust any politicians outright, but I don't like what I see from the conservatives out west. Ymmv

Jjgrow420 said:

Another liberal term and our country is ruined.

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ONE term under little PP, Trump's bitch-boy, may end Canada. He'd sell us out so fast it would be terrifying.


As to all this "tough on crime" stupidity, maybe start funding social programs to stop new criminals from happening, maybe be pro-active for once, treat the causes instead of the symptoms.

But no, Cons would rather spend $100K+/year locking a person up rather than spending a tiny little fraction of that on housing and educating and clothing and protecting children so they don't become broken, hopeless creature that need to be locked up. Short-sighted stupidity and self-above-all define the maga/fascist agenda, and it will never do any good for anybody but a few oligarchs.

Humanist: prevention and rehabilitation for a better future for all
"Conservative": punishment and revenge forever


Just read a few posts above yours for a list of all the hateful, anti-human things PP has done in his time on the public teat. Do you want THAT running Canada?

H G Griffin said:

ONE term under little PP, Trump's bitch-boy, may end Canada. He'd sell us out so fast it would be terrifying.


As to all this "tough on crime" stupidity, maybe start funding social programs to stop new criminals from happening, maybe be pro-active for once, treat the causes instead of the symptoms.

But no, Cons would rather spend $100K+/year locking a person up rather than spending a tiny little fraction of that on housing and educating and clothing and protecting children so they don't become broken, hopeless creature that need to be locked up. Short-sighted stupidity and self-above-all define the maga/fascist agenda, and it will never do any good for anybody but a few oligarchs.

Humanist: prevention and rehabilitation for a better future for all
"Conservative": punishment and revenge forever


Just read a few posts above yours for a list of all the hateful, anti-human things PP has done in his time on the public teat. Do you want THAT running Canada?

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I don't want lying liberals in power. Do I agree with everything pp has to say? No. I've always been in-between liberal and conservative but since the Trudeau dictatorship amongst the corruption, lies, scandals, deficit. The only things the liberals care about is tricking you into voting for them so they can collect the mp pay cheques, get their retirement, spend your money and tell you what you can and can't do.
Violent crime has risen 116% since Trudeau has been in power. Health care is a complete shitshow shown very well by the COVID bullshit. The average Canadian struggles to pay bills let alone afford a house in the insane market. The homeless issue has gotten beyond insane. Drugs are flooded in the streets. I literally watch people smoking crack and shooting up everyday on my way to work. In front of the cop shop no less. You might hum a diff tune if they decided to put a safe injection site by your house allowing crackheads and tweakers to zoom the fuck up and release them into your neighborhood where your kids play. The liberals spend like it's going out of style and we foot the bill for all their failed policies. Then they pick a group ostracize them in the media and blame them for their failed attempts and quickly change the channel to another group. Liberals divide us and make people believe their far left ideology by making another group of people who don't play ball with them the target of their followers. They control the CBC they fund it mainstream media is controlled by the liberal government. It's facts.
It's funny you went straight to pp even though I never even once mentioned him or his party. I was just outing the liberals. It's classic liberal tactics to divide us and make us 'choose sides' so to speak. When really we should all be asking WHY
WHY can't I get a good job
WHY is my factory closing down
WHY is the government trying to divide us by using fear mongering tactics
WHY is gas so exp
WHY are peoples houses getting broken into for their car keys and why are the police telling people to just leave the keys at the front door so they can take them.
WHY has violent crime risen 116% in the past 9 years even though the liberals have taken away all the guns from law abiding citizens who were vetted by the RCMP and have nothing to do with violent crime.
WHY do we allow anybody and everyone into our country without proper vetting?
There are so many issues the liberals have failed miserably in their policies. It's time for a change. Mark Carney will sell out Canada faster than you can blink an eye. If he and his party cared so much why not go deal with trump and renegotiate if that's what he wanted instead they prorogue government and call an election? Then Carney goes and plays with his buddies in France ? So nobody can do anything and who suffers? Canadian citizens
His cabinet is basically the same as Justin's including the ever famed Karina Gould who brought a Nazi soldier to parliament and gave him a standing ovation. Yea. That's who I want in power. Not.
Im sick of living in this liberal lead open air prison. We need to open our eyes and look at things without the influence of media and political propaganda and make a decision based on the betterment of our lives, our families lives and our country. The liberals are not the answer.
I wouldn't tell someone who to vote for. That's a liberal move. Instead I would emplore those looking for answers to their own questions to really sit down and think about your life right now. Do you feel wealthy? Are you confident in your retirement? Do you think your future and the future of Canada looks good right now? Do you feel safe? Do you trust your government? Do you trust what they say? Do you think they have your better interests in mind? Do they have Canada's better interests in mind? Or are they just pushing their own agendas making themselves and their companies more wealthy (Mark Carney)
All the liberals have is smear campaigns comparing pp to trump trying to SCARE people into thinking he is just like him which is not true. Just because you may agree on certain issues and disagree on others doesn't make you one in the same. Just more fear mongering by the liberal regime. Intended to sway voters who only watch mainstream media controlled by liberal funding. They've even now tried skewing the polls by using a federally funded polling company who decided to poll mainly boomers who typically sway liberal and add those polls daily in an effort to discourage opposition voters making them think ah well they got it were fucked anyways might as well not vote. DONT LET THE DIRTY LIBERALS GET YOU DOWN THIS IS THE TIME TO STAND UP AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD. WE ARE SICK OF TYRANNICAL LIBERAL LEADERSHIP AND ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!
Go and vote. Don't skip out. Our country has one of the worst voting turn outs. Don't let someone else speak for you. That's what the dirty liberals are counting on. GO VOTE!
It's disgusting how much they can take from us and yet people are still willing to lay on the sword for them. This is our chance to tell the liberals we aren't footing the bill for their failed policies anymore. Fuck Trudeau 2.0!!

Violent crime is up about 40% in the last decade because definitions have changed. People have gotten good at being shitty one to another. Certainly not something I'd place at the feet of the PM.


Gas today is 5 cents a litre less than March 2013.

Why would anyone listen to cops - especially ones that advise you to leave your vehicle keys at the entrance. BTW, policing is a provincial jurisdiction, as is heathcare and education.

Not a single firearm has ever been taken from me. Yes I voted against registration.

Renegotiate with Trump - seriously? He doesn't honour his own trade agreements.
Carney went to Europe to establish potential trade due to being betrayed by our southern leader.

My life isn't influenced much by the federal or provincial government, but rather by my neighbours and local community.

I've been trying to figure out why PP won't or can't get a security clearance. Not sure why that isn't a major concern for more people and a prerequisite for being a federal candidate.

My glass is half full and refillable.

Ozumoz66 said:

Violent crime is up about 40% in the last decade because definitions have changed. People have gotten good at being shitty one to another. Certainly not something I'd place at the feet of the PM.

Misrepresenting the data on crime - The John Howard Society of Canada

Actually reading the report on crime rates in Canada undermines the dominant media narrative of a 'crime wave'.

johnhoward.ca

Gas today is 5 cents a litre less than March 2013.

Why would anyone listen to cops - especially ones that advise you to leave your vehicle keys at the entrance. BTW, policing is a provincial jurisdiction, as is heathcare and education.

Not a single firearm has ever been taken from me. Yes I voted against registration.

Renegotiate with Trump - seriously? He doesn't honour his own trade agreements.
Carney went to Europe to establish potential trade due to being betrayed by our southern leader.

My life isn't influenced much by the federal or provincial government, but rather by my neighbours and local community.

I've been trying to figure out why PP won't or can't get a security clearance. Not sure why that isn't a major concern for more people and a prerequisite for being a federal candidate.

My glass is half full and refillable.

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It's actually a stat pulled straight from tps.
Gas is still way to expensive. Rather than repealing the bill Carney just set the carbon tax to 0% in his fake media stunt where he 'signed the bill'. Talk about just like trump.
THe issue I raised has nothing to do with cops. It has to do with letting criminals free on the streets by reforming the bill c75
'not a single firearm has been taken from me'. Yet. It's better to act now then feel sorry about it later without your firearms. Liberals plan on dearming civilians. They will ban our handguns and force us to sell them to them in the joke of a buyback program which will cost tax payers an additional 10 billion dollars added into the deficit. All to take something away from law abiding rcmp vetted legal gun owners. And that's supposed to stop gun crime somehow? I can't target shoot so now gangs will go away? Id doesn't make a sliver of sense to me considering something around 82% of gun crimes in Canada are committed with guns smuggled in from the US. Gun owners are 2-3x less likely to be involved in violent crimes. Why are we being punished?
If they can use these tactics to take away our firearms what else is next? How is that living in a free society?
Yes. Re negotiate with trump. If you haven't noticed Canada wasn't part of the big scary tarrifs the liberal government wanted you to believe. What other option do we have other than to re negotiate? What expense is the liberal government willing to go to on the backs of hard working citizens to try to win the election instead of calling trump and figuring it out.
All politicians are fucked. I'm just done with the liberal corruption and spending. I can't fork out my hard earned dollars anymore to pay for their mistakes. Only time will tell at the polls. In the meantime, say goodbye to your guns. It's always a 'it won't happen to me'. Until it does.

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It's actually a stat pulled straight from tps.
Gas is still way to expensive. Rather than repealing the bill Carney just set the carbon tax to 0% in his fake media stunt where he 'signed the bill'. Talk about just like trump.
THe issue I raised has nothing to do with cops. It has to do with letting criminals free on the streets by reforming the bill c75
'not a single firearm has been taken from me'. Yet. It's better to act now then feel sorry about it later without your firearms. Liberals plan on dearming civilians. They will ban our handguns and force us to sell them to them in the joke of a buyback program which will cost tax payers an additional 10 billion dollars added into the deficit. All to take something away from law abiding rcmp vetted legal gun owners. And that's supposed to stop gun crime somehow? I can't target shoot so now gangs will go away? Id doesn't make a sliver of sense to me considering something around 82% of gun crimes in Canada are committed with guns smuggled in from the US. Gun owners are 2-3x less likely to be involved in violent crimes. Why are we being punished?
If they can use these tactics to take away our firearms what else is next? How is that living in a free society?
Yes. Re negotiate with trump. If you haven't noticed Canada wasn't part of the big scary tarrifs the liberal government wanted you to believe. What other option do we have other than to re negotiate? What expense is the liberal government willing to go to on the backs of hard working citizens to try to win the election instead of calling trump and figuring it out.
All politicians are fucked. I'm just done with the liberal corruption and spending. I can't fork out my hard earned dollars anymore to pay for their mistakes. Only time will tell at the polls. In the meantime, say goodbye to your guns. It's always a 'it won't happen to me'. Until it does.

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Canada subsidizes oil and gas at a rate 14 times that of what the renewable energy sector receives. For $60 worth of electricity, one can travel 2500km with today's technology. Gas would be even more without subsidizing it with $18.6 billion annually.

The scary tarrifs aren't there yet to prop up PP - Danielle asked him not to.

Do you think it's acceptable to spend $150k/y to incarcerate and inmate? Or should we help everyone do well so they don't need to resort to crime to receive food, clothes, water and shelter?

My nephew shoots skeet and buys several flats a week. He often gets 50/50 and 99/100. He'll be relinquishing one of his handguns with apprehension. The handguns buyback program is estimated to be much less than $10 billion.

Edit : I received $970 last year as carbon tax rebate. Poor and drive little.

Once the handgun ban was coming into effect, I just sold mine. No biggie. I'd rather go fishing anyway.

Negotiate with the felon? He's so unpredictable, you could have a deal one day, at some point down the road he'll reneg on it. (Many examples of that) That's another reason why his tariffs won't work. Like usual, he'll flip-flop. He creates so much uncertainty, businesses can't make decisions (like relocating manufacturing to the USA), so, many wont. That's why I think Carney is correct to retaliate. Dumpy is isolating the USA. Not just through tariffs, but his horrible foreign policy. Europe is fricking done with his bs. So, the rest of the world can just say F U to America, and trade amongst themselves. So, yeah, keep retaliating. If dumpy continues, he'll be down the road, and so will the republican party.

Ozumoz66 said:

Canada subsidizes oil and gas at a rate 14 times that of what the renewable energy sector receives. For $60 worth of electricity, one can travel 2500km with today's technology. Gas would be even more without subsidizing it with $18.6 billion annually.

The scary tarrifs aren't there yet to prop up PP - Danielle asked him not to.

Do you think it's acceptable to spend $150k/y to incarcerate and inmate? Or should we help everyone do well so they don't need to resort to crime to receive food, clothes, water and shelter?

My nephew shoots skeet and buys several flats a week. He often gets 50/50 and 99/100. He'll be relinquishing one of his handguns with apprehension. The handguns buyback program is estimated to be much less than $10 billion.

Edit : I received $970 last year as carbon tax rebate. Poor and drive little.

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Wow the liberals really got to you huh
I don't drive electric cars.
You keep speaking of helping these poor criminals who under the liberals power can re offend. I'd rather put criminals in jail and not let them roam free reign on Canadian streets.
The buyback joke will cost 10billion. It's what they've said themselves.
It's sad to see someone give up their rightfully owned legally acquired property. If you think it's ok for the government to take away your property with no reason you are living in a cell already.
Gee thanks. Tax us out the ass and give me a couple nickels at the end of it. No thanks.

Ozumoz66 said:

I've been trying to figure out why PP won't or can't get a security clearance. Not sure why that isn't a major concern for more people and a prerequisite for being a federal candidate.

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Getting security clearance would have essentially been allowing Trudeau to put a gag on him. Great he gets to learn about any wrong doings, but what good does that do if he can't hold any parliamentarians actions to account or discuss it. See the issue ?
The information should have been released to him through the CSIS threat reduction measures act. This would have allowed him to see the information and act on it. I'll give you 3 guesses why that never happened.

Ozumoz66 said:

Why would anyone listen to cops - especially ones that advise you to leave your vehicle keys at the entrance.

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When I had kids growing up in the house I would absolutely leave my keys at the front door. I don't care about a car or the broken door/window. I would even leave them a sandwich and a beer if they like. I have insurance on those. What I can't fix is a young child witnessing any sort of violence between me and some thug. My priority is to make my kids feel safe and hopefully not even know what happened. My kids are grown up now, I'll gladly have a different kind of discussion with anyone breaking into my house.

The real kicker is however, When my kids were growing up it wasn't even a issue. I felt safe with my doors unlocked even. I could never do that now with what Trudeau has allowed to transpire.

Ozumoz66 said:

My life isn't influenced much by the federal or provincial government, but rather by my neighbours and local community

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I think everyone should subscribe to this. Turn off the news and enjoy life, it's all BS on both sides the the news spectrum anyway. It's sad when I have to watch the "CBC" and "The Sun" to find some sort of meaningfull truth between the two of them. Way to much time needs to be invested to actually come to some sort of reasonable conclusion of the facts.

Ozumoz66 said:

Do you think it's acceptable to spend $150k/y to incarcerate and inmate? Or should we help everyone do well so they don't need to resort to crime to receive food, clothes, water and shelter?

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Sadly, this is called enabling. I would like to agree with your ideals, however it just doesn't work. Addiction and Mental health issues is a pretty tough one to solve. Sometimes you can't simply lead someone to water and hope they'll drink.