canadian breeders...

Castroman

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By most of the posts...it seems the measure of whether the breeder is good or not is IF the customer gets the beans or not. While thats the biggest consideration i suppose... i wonder about quality too. A lot of breeders are just tossing pollen on a female and selling the seeds as f1 hybrids, which theyre not. They are unstable...you dont know what youre going to get... or even if youre getting the strain you ordered. Of all the breeders mentioned above... which have the quality too?
Excellent point. From what I read online, the consensus is that MikeJ from PeakSeedsBC.com is one guy that truly works each and every strain he offers. He's been offering the same few strains (NL, Blueberry, Skunk, Timewarp, Kush and crosses thereof) for years and years. The opposite of pollen chucking and hype... he is not one of those that make one million random crosses and present them as new "strains" encouraging people to buy multiple packs and go on "pheno hunting" expeditions.

Also I always see Chimera spoken of in praise but I never see any pictures or even smoke reports of any of his shit? Not all that often spoken of but usually it's positive. Beanhoarder?
Read some terrible disappointments with Chimera strains, for instance his much-awaited "Frankie's Incense Haze" which was supposed to be the seed representation of the legendary New York City Piff / Church / Black Haze. I'll spare the negative reports, but here's Chimera's reply:

I'm bummed about these reports overall to be honest - the Jack seems to have trampled on the Haze more than I would have liked judging from your collective results. I find it a bit perplexing to be honest, I had a bunch of these in a greenhouse this year for a good solid screening in a legal district, but the county came by and had some issues with plant numbers so there was a big massacre of this line in favour of some heavier ones in order to bring the facility into compliance with the newly adopted regulations. -Chimera
So he sold an untested cross, hyped it to the moon (even the "strain" name has hype "Frankie's Incense" is a reference to the frankincense aroma of the legendary New York City Church strain) he has paying customers as beta testers and when the reports come apallingly bad he blames the county for the failed cross. So what was his breeding work? He simply grew out some seed a guy gifted him:
"Frankie’s Incense Haze: These seeds were passed to us by a broker friend in NYC who shares our obsessive pursuit of the finest cannabis anywhere. He would collect seeds from the finest bags of pot he would acquire in the high-end NYC cannabis market, and send them to us periodically." - Chimera
Contrast the above with MikeJ from PeakSeedsBC.com, who has strong demand for his C99 and crosses but would not list it on his website because he is still not satisfied with the final product and still sending out free C99 samples from different fathers for some of his customers to test.
 

Castroman

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untested seeds are the norm
Yes indeed, but I was replying to the point Gquebed was making:

I wonder about quality too. A lot of breeders are just tossing pollen on a female and selling the seeds as f1 hybrids, which theyre not. They are unstable...you dont know what youre going to get. Of all the breeders mentioned, which have the quality too?
If I had the money to buy seeds, I'd go with PeakSeedsBC.com, because you do know what you are going to get. From all reports I read (and the reports on PeakSeedsBC are just as consistent as the strain themselves), their seeds are remarkably uniform and is not surprising since most of their strains have been IBLd, which is nice because that means the crosses are not polyhybrids but true F1s.

The irony in this is that not only do most growers not mind buying untested polyhybrids, but they actually enjoy the inconsistency! They enjoy pheno-hunting expeditions and discussing their findings online because it gives them a sense of community.

That's the reason why they are not likely to criticize the "breeder" even if the results are disappointing: doing so would alienate them from the fanboy community. It's like in music, try telling a Rihanna fan that one her songs is awful, musically bland, commercial trash etc. The do not care, the music is an excuse to build identity through belonging, and that includes hating certain other singers. It's like any sports fan knows, it's not enough to be in love with your team, you also need to hate another.

Pollen chuckers' fanboys are happy not to see their king is naked or realizing the B they idolize stands for Business instead of breeding. Most people buying seeds do not mind paying ridiculous prices for untested new "strains", because they are not paying for the genetics, they are paying the "breeder"s fanclub quarterly fee.
 
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Gquebed

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Excellent point. From what I read online, the consensus is that MikeJ from PeakSeedsBC.com is one guy that truly works each and every strain he offers. He's been offering the same few strains (NL, Blueberry, Skunk, Timewarp, Kush and crosses thereof) for years and years. The opposite of pollen chucking and hype... he is not one of those that make one million random crosses and present them as new "strains" encouraging people to buy multiple packs and go on "pheno hunting" expeditions.



Read some terrible disappointments with Chimera strains, for instance his much-awaited "Frankie's Incense Haze" which was supposed to be the seed representation of the legendary New York City Piff / Church / Black Haze. I'll spare the negative reports, but here's Chimera's reply:



So he sold an untested cross, hyped it to the moon (even the "strain" name has hype "Frankie's Incense" is a reference to the frankincense aroma of the legendary New York City Church strain) he has paying customers as beta testers and when the reports come apallingly bad he blames the county for the failed cross. So what was his breeding work? He simply grew out some seed a guy gifted him:


Contrast the above with MikeJ from PeakSeedsBC.com, who has strong demand for his C99 and crosses but would not list it on his website because he is still not satisfied with the final product and still sending out free C99 samples from different fathers for some of his customers to test.
If he is as solid as you say i would really be tempted to run his blueberry... last time i had some of those beans they were super sensitive and hermed... lucky i had good old NL in that run...
 

Castroman

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If he is as solid as you say i would really be tempted to run his blueberry... last time i had some of those beans they were super sensitive and hermed... lucky i had good old NL in that run...
The sensitivity is its intrinsic, defining trait -- that's what Blueberry is. I wouldn't expect Peak's version to have erradicated all the bad genetic traits. Doing that would be tantamount to developing a different strain. It wouldn't be Blueberry. Mike is so above board that he tells you in the very description that Blueberry's problematic:

Blueberry (indoor)
Pure Strain
Product code: BB
Type/subspecies*: Mostly indica
Flowering period**: 8-9 weeks indoor
Potency: Very Strong
Growth Pattern: Medium height, one main bud with some low branching. Feed conservatively.
Breeders comment: Flavourful and colourful, classic favourite. Challenging, not for beginners. Can be very sensitive to over-fertilization. Occasional mutations at seedling stage. This strain does not come with a guarantee for germination. They may need assistance cracking open.

Normally seed vendors would try embelishing a strain description. Mike does the opposite. He's real, zero hype.
 

Medipuffs

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mike from peak is right up there with sannie

I have grown mike's entire catalogue a few times over and i would not hesitate to purchase his gear under any circumstances. best customer service, reliable and he gives you the goods everytime. he has bonus strains not listed on his site like c99 and kings kush, you just have to politely ask for them and he will give you freebies.

if you want to learn how to make seeds, pick up some of his IBL's and you are well on your way. they are as stable as the day is long.

@Gquebed: growing out his blueberry you do not want to give the flower anything extra in the nutrients department NONE AT ALL, keep the nitrogen as low as possible to keep the leafiness down and it will reward you. she likes her beneficials but no extra nutrients. Run her for 11 weeks and you will be happy. His kushxblueberry is some of the nicest herb i have grown. run the skunks 11-12 weeks as well and you will get a huge yield of sweet body odour/hockey bag smelling ceiling-less sativa. the NL you can abuse her and she doesn't care at all, just keeps chugging along. Its a cross of nl#5 from bc seed company's early stock crossed to early stock from dutch passions oasis (hindu kush f3 x nl#2). his kush is a stable hindu kush that puts you down on the couch with a narcotic stone and a wonderful body buzz.

i am running some of chimera's gear for the first time right now, ill let you know how i feel about it down the line
 
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GrowRock

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I think I will pull the trigger on a few strains of Mikejs. Anyone ever use botanicare power flower? A buddy gave me a gallon. He swears by it. Anyone know anything about it? I did a Google search and nothing.
 

Castroman

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lots more quality outdoor breeders at rcmcollective.
RCMC has some crazy deals on High Rise seeds, like a four for the price of one. You need to sign up for unleashdagreen forum to see offer details, it's in RCMC's subforum
 

Chef420

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mike from peak is right up there with sannie

I have grown mike's entire catalogue a few times over and i would not hesitate to purchase his gear under any circumstances. best customer service, reliable and he gives you the goods everytime. he has bonus strains not listed on his site like c99 and kings kush, you just have to politely ask for them and he will give you freebies.

i am running some of chimera's gear for the first time right now, ill let you know how i feel about it down the line
Do you know if any of them are feminized or are they all regular?
 

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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i would much rather pay more for excellent female seeds for my outdoor rather than wading through males
i have done so for the last dozen years..Iran Diesel ..here i come again this summer!
it was so depressing culling some of the biggest plants in the 80's and 90's because they were male
 
I can only say that dealing with Peak Seeds BC / MJ has been a blessing from above. Top notch all the way, never had a single issue. Did mixed 20's, NL, NB, KS and the plants are stable, easy to grow and potent if you give them time to mature. The skunk takes a 70 to 84 day flowering window for max output. Kush skunk the same amount of time. I think the Northern Lights and Northern Berry are my two favorites and they finish so much faster.
 

bigmanc

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I can only say that dealing with Peak Seeds BC / MJ has been a blessing from above. Top notch all the way, never had a single issue. Did mixed 20's, NL, NB, KS and the plants are stable, easy to grow and potent if you give them time to mature. The skunk takes a 70 to 84 day flowering window for max output. Kush skunk the same amount of time. I think the Northern Lights and Northern Berry are my two favorites and they finish so much faster.
How's the NL berry?
 
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