Can you use seeds from a hermied plant?

Cyrus420

Well-Known Member
I see people arguing both ways on this and wanted to see what the current line up of growers here on rollitup thought.

My lemon kush plant went full blown hermie and produced tons of seeds. I harvested her a few weeks early our of disappointment but the seeds are big and developed and look like they would pop easy enough.

Now what I have read suggests that because my plant was feminized and it pollinated itself these seeds should all be female but alongside this I've read that they will carry this trait now and have a higher tendency to go hermie. Is there any truth to this or is it just another cannabis hearsay?
 
Ive had both things happen...popped about 10 and had a 50/50 fem rate. Never know....oh..I guess your question was will they hermie...also a crap shoot

Yea, I was thinking if the chances for hermies was low enough I could take advantage of this mishap and go for a sog with all female seeds though with the risk for hermies I wouldn't want to infect a whole tent.
 
Yea, I was thinking if the chances for hermies was low enough I could take advantage of this mishap and go for a sog with all female seeds though with the risk for hermies I wouldn't want to infect a whole tent.
Just so many variables ya know;)
 
put those seeds in the fridge for a month, in an airtight container with some rice (uncooked)
i've found that helps a lot, fresh seeds almost never pop for me. the fridge makes them think its been winter, so now it must be spring, and the rice absorbs any extra moisture, hardens them up.
i've had the same experience, you're gambling, i've got a plant that threw no nanners, one that threw a few then quit, and one that i just got rid of because it wouldn't quit. if its still throwin em after the 3rd week of flower, it aint gonna quit.
 
If the majority of the hermie debate is to be believed then surely every sucssesive generation would be a bad hermie and you would have to ditch them. Since your environment produced seeds in your plant expect these seeds to do the same unless you change it. The so called hermie trait is present in all marijuana and linked to a protein that is independant of sexual genetics that displays in the wild in bad years and not good ones. Might some consider millions of years of evolution and that they had a stressfull grow rather than overnight genetically altered dna to all of a sudden herm.
 
i got 6 bagseed assuming from a herm when i got some awesome weed off a friend (exodous cheese or some foxtailed blueberry unsure) i gave 3 to one friend who grew under a cfl they fine not very big though and kept 3 myself flowering currently under 400w hps start week 9 guess what all 6 were female (although still time for a late nanner)so my take so far hermie seeds are ok but maybe i was lucky each to their own i guess 14555540_1101249689965137_28513308_n.jpg 14556031_1101249519965154_727855430_n.jpg 14593386_1101249583298481_294671555_n.jpg 14608197_1101249513298488_1271473563_n.jpg 14610652_1101249713298468_318640867_n.jpg
 
i got 6 bagseed assuming from a herm when i got some awesome weed off a friend (exodous cheese or some foxtailed blueberry unsure) i gave 3 to one friend who grew under a cfl they fine not very big though and kept 3 myself flowering currently under 400w hps start week 9 guess what all 6 were female (although still time for a late nanner)so my take so far hermie seeds are ok but maybe i was lucky each to their own i guess View attachment 3798224 View attachment 3798225 View attachment 3798226 View attachment 3798227 View attachment 3798228

Majority of bagseed is female thesedays.
 
@Cyrus420

The irony is that ALL fem'd seeds are hermies


In a way. In a way not. This is, or was a hotly debated topic not long ago! I tend to fall in the formation believing that Chemically produced selfies are not true "hermies" (bisexuals is a more correct term, then "hermie") After all, they (properly breed ones from quality breeding practice) don't carry any more trait to "herm" then regulars! (Bet I'm going to hear about that statement - lol)

The term "hermie" really doesn't fit "true" chemically reversed seeds per say. A true chem inducement, forces a hormone response. That produces actual male flowers. The thing is that here. The male flower only holds an exact DNA copy of the mother. The resulting offspring do contain 2 sets of DNA, yet they are the same. This results in the seeds being female. There is also going to be some odd males thrown in there somewhere! Not very many by any means at all! In my experience, less then 1-100 but, there will be some! I say there is no such thing as 100% female seeds!

The thing with "hermied" seeds are. Yes, they will produce many seeds that will in turn, "herm" during bloom. Like Demon said, "it's a crap shoot". But, by looking at Mendel's models,,,,I would suspect your around 3/4 herming and 1/4 not....this could be debatable (it's been about the observed average in the cpl of times it happened to me).

Anyway Riddle, not arguing - just giving my opinion on that....Same as DJ Shorts and Riots and some others.....But, in reality,,,it's just opinion and kinda fun to debate at our level of understanding......

{Off topic to RM3: got prodded into that Vault comparative by Jack - the Skywalker Auto thing. figured I'd closely record and post doing a water only organic and various blooming times, to shoot the 24/0 lighting time on Auto's down....If all 5 pop, 1 at 24/0 all the way - a cpl at 18/6 for bloom and a cpl at 14/10 bloom. Weight each plants results and compare the lowers to the 24 by single plant. I'll let ya know so you can "watch". What the hell !}

Someone else spoke on the plants environmental tendencies to produce "herming". This is quite correct!

I would ask Cyrus. Did you get this as a seed from a quality breeder to start?
If so, it's something you did in your environment, over the environment the seed plant was grown and breed in, that caused your plant to "herm".

Did you ever notice that you can grow a plant from seed and as you clone and grow the clones, the plant "structure" or "how" it grows changes? That is the plant reacting to it's environment. It's making changes to one side or the other of it's parents traits that match that parents environmental "norms".....The result is still tasting and smoking the same as the original seed results. It's simply just making an "environmental shift"...
Some confuse this with the term "Genetic shift" - That only comes from breeding a different strain into the strains genetic line.
 
Last edited:
ALL Cannabis Plants are Hermies it's built into all of them. Some take more stress than others, but they all have the gene to self propagate.
 
wasn't the original OG from a hermie seed?

NO, I've heard from reliable sources that it was a strait breeding project to bring in PM tolerance to a new strain for growing north of Frisco in the humid area's.

One of the first results was the ghost "cut" OG...damn fire strain too!
 
ALL Cannabis Plants are Hermies it's built in to all of them. Some take more stress than others, but they all have the gene to self propagate.

Well, more technically. Has the ability too, built in.... read Kingrows1's postings above.....He's got it!
 
Well, more technically. Has the ability too, built in.... read Kingrows1's postings above.....He's got it!


I don't know...if they found the gene in the lab and took it out from the strand what would happen.

I think it's great more schools will be studying cannabis to gain knowledge.

The Future is only brighter with everything we learn from this plant.
 
NO, I've heard from reliable sources that it was a strait breeding project to bring in PM tolerance to a new strain for growing north of Frisco in the humid area's.

One of the first results was the ghost "cut" OG...damn fire strain too!
They failed if that's what they were trying, og kush is mad prone to mold.
 
They failed if that's what they were trying, og kush is mad prone to mold.

Depends on the OG strain,,,,to a point! I was told that basically, yes it failed in that respect over the long term! The clones would loose any tolerance fast (there's that environmental shift thing) But, the guys did agree that they created a fine smoking strain of very high quality !

A cpl of old strain cuts from the breeding are never the first to get it. They were never the last either! Those that are slower to get it, seem to not allow the PM to spread as fast as others either.....

I still have Ghost to this day and don't plan on it cycling out any time soon! Massive buzz!
 
Depends on the OG strain,,,,to a point! I was told that basically, yes it failed in that respect over the long term! The clones would loose any tolerance fast (there's that environmental shift thing) But, the guys did agree that they created a fine smoking strain of very high quality !

A cpl of old strain cuts from the breeding are never the first to get it. They were never the last either! Those that are slower to get it, seem to not allow the PM to spread as fast as others either.....

I still have Ghost to this day and don't plan on it cycling out any time soon! Massive buzz!
I just grew a ghost og cross , its dank , mine wasn't a big yielder but had a ton of flavor how does yours yield?
 
@Cyrus420




In a way. In a way not. This is, or was a hotly debated topic not long ago! I tend to fall in the formation believing that Chemically produced selfies are not true "hermies" (bisexuals is a more correct term, then "hermie") After all, they (properly breed ones from quality breeding practice) don't carry any more trait to "herm" then regulars! (Bet I'm going to hear about that statement - lol)

The term "hermie" really doesn't fit "true" chemically reversed seeds per say. A true chem inducement, forces a hormone response. That produces actual male flowers. The thing is that here. The male flower only holds an exact DNA copy of the mother. The resulting offspring do contain 2 sets of DNA, yet they are the same. This results in the seeds being female. There is also going to be some odd males thrown in there somewhere! Not very many by any means at all! In my experience, less then 1-100 but, there will be some! I say there is no such thing as 100% female seeds!

The thing with "hermied" seeds are. Yes, they will produce many seeds that will in turn, "herm" during bloom. Like Demon said, "it's a crap shoot". But, by looking at Mendel's models,,,,I would suspect your around 3/4 herming and 1/4 not....this could be debatable (it's been about the observed average in the cpl of times it happened to me).

Anyway Riddle, not arguing - just giving my opinion on that....Same as DJ Shorts and Riots and some others.....But, in reality,,,it's just opinion and kinda fun to debate at our level of understanding......

{Off topic to RM3: got prodded into that Vault comparative by Jack - the Skywalker Auto thing. figured I'd closely record and post doing a water only organic and various blooming times, to shoot the 24/0 lighting time on Auto's down....If all 5 pop, 1 at 24/0 all the way - a cpl at 18/6 for bloom and a cpl at 14/10 bloom. Weight each plants results and compare the lowers to the 24 by single plant. I'll let ya know so you can "watch". What the hell !}

Someone else spoke on the plants environmental tendencies to produce "herming". This is quite correct!

I would ask Cyrus. Did you get this as a seed from a quality breeder to start?
If so, it's something you did in your environment, over the environment the seed plant was grown and breed in, that caused your plant to "herm".

Did you ever notice that you can grow a plant from seed and as you clone and grow the clones, the plant "structure" or "how" it grows changes? That is the plant reacting to it's environment. It's making changes to one side or the other of it's parents traits that match that parents environmental "norms".....The result is still tasting and smoking the same as the original seed results. It's simply just making an "environmental shift"...
Some confuse this with the term "Genetic shift" - That only comes from breeding a different strain into the strains genetic line.

All of what you said seems to fall in line with what I have read elsewhere basically mostly hermies few if any regular females.

As for the seed it was purchased from Herbie's it was Lemon Kush. I couldn't find any sort of reliable breeder information for lemon kush. I did one other lemon kush plant before this one and it did not hermie on me, despite receiving way more stress than my current plant did. Sadly due to my space and limited funds I haven't ventured into cloning yet but I have observed my plant growing as I trained it to fit it's pot, one side did stay much taller and more dominant than the rest of the plant. I'm guessing it's possible all the LST I did to her could of stressed her out, my last plant wasn't LST'd and it did not herm.
 
They cant find the gene or protein that controls it, their best guess was what i quoted and it is still a mystery which is why their is no definitive answer to the thread.

I don't know...if they found the gene in the lab and took it out from the strand what would happen.

I think it's great more schools will be studying cannabis to gain knowledge.

The Future is only brighter with everything we learn from this plant.
 
Back
Top