Can You Adam And Eve It?

frthnkr85

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Setianism wasn't what I was describing at all earlier. It's Taoism that closely resembles my beliefs. Here's a little summary of Taoism.
TAOISM

"Tao is the first-cause of the universe. It is a force that flows through all life."
"The concept of a personified deity is foreign to them, as is the concept of the creation of the universe. Thus, they do not pray as Christians do; there is no God to hear the prayers or to act upon them. They seek answers to life's problems through inner meditation and outer observation."
Interesting... thats close to what i believe minus a higher power... i like it...lol... good stuff anyone who has anything else interesting no matter from what religion or lack of religion (skunk)lol... i'm interested to hear it...
 

skunkushybrid

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It's exactly what I believe... of course we are energy. Mary Shelley was very close when she suggested electricity could create life. it is used now to stimulate cells into growth. I really feel that Shelley should be viewed as a visionary, a writer ahead of her time.

I simply prefer to call myself a realist. I believe what is real, what I KNOW to be true.
 

fdd2blk

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By analysing evidence.

have we been to the moon? forget about religion for just a moment. people can't even agree if we've really been to the moon or not. i still ponder my beliefs. now i have to decide about god? these are things i personally will never know. am i to meet my maker? how many people die a day. that's a lot of visits. i know what i think and feel. that's real to me.





i'm high.:mrgreen:
 

fdd2blk

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i have a friend who swears we can't leave earths' orbit. the guy will argue all day. i tried to show him photos from the hubble telescope and he laughed. said it was all fake. wonder if he believes in a god.
 

preoQpydDlusion

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skunk, do u deny that there is no way to tell if something is true or not? ive said it before n ill say it again, perception alone is truth
 

skunkushybrid

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Truth is often obvious. A perception of such does not change the truth. It is true that I am typing this post right now, this is not a perception but a fact.
 

frthnkr85

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so you are your own god then skunk... thats what it comes down to... i think i've finally figured you out... you blatantly deny other peoples beliefs by saying that you know but what makes you so special... you say that you analyse but to me it seems obvious that to anyone who is alive and pays attentention there has to be a higher power an underlying meaning to everything... yet you say there is not and you know this yet you haven't died nor have you explored the whole universe nor the world i'm sure... how far have you been from home what experiences have you had that make you so sure of yourself... that is the problem with humanity we are vain... you believe what you believe because you say you know but the truth is none of us know shit... if you compile all of the knowledge on earth into one place you don't have a damn thing compared to all there is to know in the universe and you still end up with 1 trillion questions left unanswered... but YOU somehow have it all figured out.. how old are you I wonder?... You see by closing your mind you do yourself a great disservice... i don't care if you believe in something you haven't seen for yourself or not but i do care when you say there is absolutely no way it could be when as i said before you haven't seen if for yourself... I think this post is close to being done with... It all comes back to the problem that has been upsetting humanity from the beginning no one has all the answers to every question because we are not gods and our understanding is that of a childs when it comes to the greater workings of the universe... so i will continue to observe and keep my mind open to ALL POSSIBILITIES instead of like some people only believing what i want to believe... and that is the problem skunk you only believe what you want to believe and no amount of facts or proof would dissuade you from that just as a hardcore religious fanatic will not be swayed by logic or reason... so are any of us really any better because of what we believe... i think not... the truly great humans are those that want to learn and to push the overall collective knowledge of the human race forward not those that are stuck in the present believing only what they want to believe and closing their minds to all other possibilities... as smart as i gather that you are skunk i would much rather have you on my side pushing the idea of impossible into the realm of possible... not on the other side saying humans are nothing but animals put here to wallow about on this planet until a few decades pass then die to fertilize the ground for the next generation... so what's it going to be people knowledge or ignorance?????
 

muu232

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There is only one thing you can 100% know to be true, and that is that you exist. Anything can be false. What if I told you I was drinking water. I let you examine it: it looks like water, feels like water, smells like water, tastes like water. From simple observations of your senses, can you KNOW that it is water that I am drinking? Or is that just what your brain is ASSUMING for you? Any assumption of any kind means you cannot KNOW it to be TRUE. You have assumed it to be true. Stop trusting your senses.
 

frthnkr85

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There is only one thing you can 100% know to be true, and that is that you exist. Anything can be false. What if I told you I was drinking water. I let you examine it: it looks like water, feels like water, smells like water, tastes like water. From simple observations of your senses, can you KNOW that it is water that I am drinking? Or is that just what your brain is ASSUMING for you? Any assumption of any kind means you cannot KNOW it to be TRUE. You have assumed it to be true. Stop trusting your senses.
more good stuff... now we are thinking... existance is all that matters and that is the end all of great questions... why do we exist? what is the meaning of it all? and will we continue to exist after our physical bodies are gone? And nothing can answer that question but time... it is our purpose on this earth to pursue these questions and to try to learn as much to those ends as possible... that my friends is what it is truly all about.... oh and getting high...lol
 

skunkushybrid

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There is only one thing you can 100% know to be true, and that is that you exist. Anything can be false. What if I told you I was drinking water. I let you examine it: it looks like water, feels like water, smells like water, tastes like water. From simple observations of your senses, can you KNOW that it is water that I am drinking? Or is that just what your brain is ASSUMING for you? Any assumption of any kind means you cannot KNOW it to be TRUE. You have assumed it to be true. Stop trusting your senses.
If anything can be false then it is TRUE that our existence can be false. Anything means everything. If you let me chemically analyse the water then I would KNOW it was water. I KNOW many things, and I feel your anger burning at my confidence in such knowledge.

You see, there is truth, and you can KNOW it.

Our senses are the very essence of us, acting on information that our conscious mind is not even aware of. To tap into your subconscious is the key, to gain full control of our brains should be the aim. We need to understand ourselves not supernatural stories.
 

skunkushybrid

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so you are your own god then skunk... thats what it comes down to... i think i've finally figured you out...
From reading your posts it is obvious to me that you have a hard time figuring out anything. If that's what you've 'figured out' from reading my posts it is obvious you still have a way to go before reaching a level of understanding that can comprehend my views.
 

frthnkr85

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From reading your posts it is obvious to me that you have a hard time figuring out anything. If that's what you've 'figured out' from reading my posts it is obvious you still have a way to go before reaching a level of understanding that can comprehend my views.
i'm tired of arguing points with you when our views our so close... i will master my mind and then everything that comes after...
 

muu232

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If anything can be false then it is TRUE that our existence can be false. Anything means everything. If you let me chemically analyse the water then I would KNOW it was water. I KNOW many things, and I feel your anger burning at my confidence in such knowledge.

You see, there is truth, and you can KNOW it.

Our senses are the very essence of us, acting on information that our conscious mind is not even aware of. To tap into your subconscious is the key, to gain full control of our brains should be the aim. We need to understand ourselves not supernatural stories.
You are dumb as hell. Dumbass.
 

str8-kiLLaaaaaaaaaas

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If anything can be false then it is TRUE that our existence can be false. Anything means everything. If you let me chemically analyse the water then I would KNOW it was water. I KNOW many things, and I feel your anger burning at my confidence in such knowledge.

You see, there is truth, and you can KNOW it.

Our senses are the very essence of us, acting on information that our conscious mind is not even aware of. To tap into your subconscious is the key, to gain full control of our brains should be the aim. We need to understand ourselves not supernatural stories.
thats something i would say on acid.

but shit hey i guess your a deep dude. rock on:blsmoke:
 
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