Can You Adam And Eve It?

AllMeatNoPotato

AllMeatNoPotato

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what kills me shunk is they use fear tactics to enlist. if you do not serve my god you will have everlasting damnation. it makes me sick to even think about it. blahhhhhhhhhhhh.

the older I get the more I begin to realize how correct the buddhists got it. treat all life like it is life.
 
dankciti

dankciti

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whitey111 said:
personally i believe strongly in the lord. i also believe that without religion the basis of what our society is built on ( right and wrong ) would be completely altered. if people believe that there is no ultimate power that judges our actions at the end of our lifes, than what consequenses are there? none. that in itself would create a chaotic river of discontent.
-whitey out
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dude if god made that sweet ass on you marque then right on. in fact im sure he made that sweet piece i was plowed a few hours ago then ill pray for all sorts of souls and happiness:twisted:
 
dankciti

dankciti

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hail santa! LOL

DUDE THE BIBLE IS A BOOK OF SRORIES RECOMENDING ON GENREAL HUMANE CHARACTERISTIS TO HELP PEOPLE LEAD HAPPY CIVIL LIVES NOT A RULE BOOK IT SAYS LOOK HERES WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT HAPPENED, SO BE GOOD THE END ..... OH AND ALL THE SCARY SHIT IS THE FALSE CONSEQUENCE TO SCARE YOU INTO BEING GOOD AND ORDERLY AND ORGANIZED.

SEE FOLKS organized religions were the first governments now we as societyhave grown past that and just use common sense ( dont fuck every broad in the ass and don't go on killing people) oh and act half ass decent at least so every thing else can go on with the flow.

organized religions are money making schemes now, recruiting though fear, evil evil organizations; the only good thing is thier daughters are FREAKS!!! i love it!! LOVE LOVE LUV ITTITITIITI :)
 
battosai

battosai

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skunkushybrid said:
What is a prophet, if not false?

I have sought, and I have found. I don't just believe there is no god, I KNOW there is no god. Your beliefs are false, and deep, deep down you know it. You all do... you'd just rather believe that it is a devil whispering in your ear than common sense.

Hey bat' do you believe in Santa? What about the Tooth Fairy? Maybe you'd think someone a copmplete fool for believing in such drivel. That is exactly how I feel about people that believe in a god, you are all fools.
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dont throw your just-as-equally-lame athiest tactics at me after you bitch about them christians. fear or damnation? fear of believing in god in case it makes u stupid? what ever. i could give two shits less what people choose to believe, and i enjoy my make shift agnostic belief system. its something ive grown to enjoy. whenever u start thinking about bright u are, remember the people with half your intelligence and the dumb things they are sooo convinced is true. and for those who are twice your intelligence? how do u think they see your beliefs? probably simplistic.

if i had to choose, i would rather be ignorant of scientific truth and be a good, ethical person, than realize that there is no god and be an elitest asshole. but thats just me.

any religious document ive read through had some very valuable things, along with some things i didnt like. zen buddhism, taoism, christianity, islam, hindu, all have something valuable u can attain from it. regardless of what you've learned and seen, if u cant properly see the good and bad in ANYTHING then you're only looking through the vision of a 1 eyed dog.

*once again, another post that isnt directly solely to the person im quoting
 
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frthnkr85

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the fact of the matter is simply this....
Faith is the answer to your original question...
On a subatomic level humans can alter reality, so it stands to reason that energy the basis of all life can be manipulated and therefore this proves there is a higher being hands down... it may not be the god of the jews or the christians... but anyone who can acknowledge the size of the universe(aka limitless) and say that there is no higher being and that evolution is the answer must be smoking far better pot then i will ever see
 
preoQpydDlusion

preoQpydDlusion

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People like putting faith in god because they know first hand the true power of faith. they go to church and feel all happy and warm, feeling the power of the human spirit. instead of going the mind, body, n spirit route, they were pulled down the father, son, and holy spirit route. anybody can say that theres a little more to this world than the physical and mental, but some have been taught that they have no ownership of this, or worse yet that they have to prove themselves to earn it.

any religion thatll have u put faith in an after life at the expense of this one is noxious. they disrupt the nature of reality. there is no good or evil. no lower or higher consciousness. no left or right hand path. no consequences.

if this idea disturbs you, then u are not truly at peace.
 
preoQpydDlusion

preoQpydDlusion

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frthnkr85 said:
On a subatomic level humans can alter reality, so it stands to reason that energy the basis of all life can be manipulated and therefore this proves there is a higher being hands down...
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jesus christ (pun intended) that doesnt mean theres a higher being. it means that we all have more power than most of us are willing to admit.
 
preoQpydDlusion

preoQpydDlusion

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battosai said:
if i had to choose, i would rather be ignorant of scientific truth and be a good, ethical person, than realize that there is no god and be an elitest asshole. but thats just me.
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U would consciously choose to be an asshole? not very noble of u. being that ur post wasnt aimed at anybody specific, i hope u werent assuming that every atheist in the world is an elitist.
 
preoQpydDlusion

preoQpydDlusion

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frthnkr85 said:
but anyone who can acknowledge the size of the universe(aka limitless) and say that there is no higher being and that evolution is the answer must be smoking far better pot then i will ever see
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contradiction. if there was a 'higher power' it would also be included in this limitless universe. it would be our equal.
 
battosai

battosai

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preoQpydDlusion said:
U would consciously choose to be an asshole? not very noble of u. being that ur post wasnt aimed at anybody specific, i hope u werent assuming that every atheist in the world is an elitist.
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u misread what i said. read it again. i would rather be dumb and ethical. instead of smart and shitty. that is, if i HAD to choose. fortunately i can try to be smart and ethical at the same time.
 
AllMeatNoPotato

AllMeatNoPotato

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frthnkr85 said:
the fact of the matter is simply this....
Faith is the answer to your original question...
On a subatomic level humans can alter reality, so it stands to reason that energy the basis of all life can be manipulated and therefore this proves there is a higher being hands down... it may not be the god of the jews or the christians... but anyone who can acknowledge the size of the universe(aka limitless) and say that there is no higher being and that evolution is the answer must be smoking far better pot then i will ever see
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bling faith is what you speak of and it is just that blind. dude how the hell did you get a higher being "HANDS DOWN" from the ability to manipulate energy. there is no reasoning to your thought there. I can honestly say that after reading that jibberish, considering it angered me, we all have became less intelligent. no one ever said the universe is limitless that is something your bretheren has beat into your head as a rebuttal. it holds no plane in this debate. as far as evolution is concerned, it is proven. we are taller, more intellegent, etc... than our precessors. the only proof that a higher entity is around is a book that has been intrepreted from a dead language that only a hand full of people can read. thats right a book. sounds pathetic when put into words as simple as that. start reading about energy and the transfir of it. start with etymology and work your way down. ah what you do not have to read about energy cuz it is covered in your BOOK. Jawyeh created it right? hahaha, it would be easier for you to update your agrument and just state that god is energy. that it makes more sense. he could become ever lasting and has been around since the beginning of time.
 
preoQpydDlusion

preoQpydDlusion

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Meat, its unfair to base how wise somebody is simply on how many books theyve read. backing up religion on scientific 'fact' can only go so far.

and the universe is limitless. any limits that would exist would be created by the mind that perceived them. the problem with religions is that they are based on labels that have different meanings to each individual.
 
AllMeatNoPotato

AllMeatNoPotato

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to incinuate that the universe is umlimited is that same as saying it has a limit. it is all hypothesis and will never be found out. dude, I said nothing of wisdom in my post, only of intelligence.
 
whitey111

whitey111

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What would constitute objective proof of God? Well, consider the following self-evident and universally recognized truth: Concept and design necessitate an intelligent designer. The presence of intelligent design proves the existence of an intelligent designer. It's simply cause and effect. In our search for proof of God's existence, we could examine the various claims of supernatural occurrences, determine whether or not these are legitimate experiences, and build a case for the existence of the supernatural, which would be a step towards identifying a supernatural Creator God. Or we can just apply what we already know and search for signs of intelligent design within creation itself.
 
whitey111

whitey111

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We know that design necessitates a designer. In fact, in accordance with this fundamental axiom, design detection methodology is a prerequisite in many fields of human endeavor, including archaeology, anthropology, forensics, criminal jurisprudence, copyright law, patent law, reverse engineering, crypto analysis, random number generation, and SETI. And how do we recognize intelligent design? In general, we find "specified complexity" to be a reliable indicator of the presence of intelligent design. Chance can explain complexity alone but not specification -- a random sequence of letters is complex but not specified (it's meaningless). A Shakespearean sonnet is both complex and specified (it's meaningful). We can't have a Shakespearean sonnet without Shakespeare. (William A. Dembski, The Design Inference: Eliminating Chance through Small Probabilities, 1998.)
 
AllMeatNoPotato

AllMeatNoPotato

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no one ever said that there was a concept or design. well atleast I did not. whitey, I just want to say that I am happy for you that you have found something that you enjoy in life. it is funny the conversation that we are having. me and my mother, an ordained minister, have the same conversation. we even bring up the same points. lol
 
medicineman

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AllMeatNoPotato said:
no one ever said that there was a concept or design. well atleast I did not. whitey, I just want to say that I am happy for you that you have found something that you enjoy in life. it is funny the conversation that we are having. me and my mother, an ordained minister, have the same conversation. we even bring up the same points. lol
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"If there were no God, Man would create one" Emanual Kant or somebody important said that, a memory flash from college, may be wrong about the auther, but the quote stands. So the question remains: Is there a God or has Man created one? There will be men of faith, and men of questioning! "God" says that all we need is the faith of a mustard seed. Is that too much to ask? For all too many, It is! Faith is an intangible, some people just can't fathom intangibles. If you're in this category, just hope you're wrong at closing time.~LOL~.
 
whitey111

whitey111

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allmeat, you say that what we devote our lives to what comes from just a book, right? well that is the only way we have to pass down from generation. and yet you think that you have found the answer in your transfering of energy, and where may i ask did you read this, perhaps a book, or another way of the passing of information? what you say makes little since to me. i dont claim to have all the answers
 
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