cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
... that's all I'm asking. cn
Can we get Republicans to support Cannabis Re-Legalization?
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Dr Kynes
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thats right i dont know you. i can only judge based on what you post, and what you post is inflammatory accusations against those you deem unsuited to express themselves by voting for the candidate of their choice.
repeatedly attempting to imply homosexual interest in you does not demonstrate my gay leanings, but it sure shines a spotlight on your own sexual preferences. not that theres anything wrong with that.
thanks for explaining that gary johnson didnt win. i hadnt heard. and of course, as i voted for the candidate who did not win i am therefore enjoined from holding any opinion counter to your own. fascinating.
i have not blabbered on any subject, much less that you are "a bad person" i have stated clearly and unequivically that you are a steaming pile of crap with a thrid rate mind, and no understanding of how our system works or how it may be changed.
you have, in your own rambling incoherent body of work, demonstrated a real and venous hatred for anyone who is republican, libertarian, independent, or decline to state. you focus particular wrath on the "tea party" and "white people", yet then immediately attempt to paint yourself as a new pot-head moses guiding us all to the promised land, if only we can shed ourselves of any who dont share you own special vision for the future.
and again with the insinuations of homosexuality. you must really think you're hot. but again, sorry chap, im strictly for the ladies.
i have no need to vote in your silly poll since my option is not included.
X Republican who does in fact support the total removal of prohibition on cannabis nationwide.
and again, congressional elections will do nothing for weed, since congress' only option is full repeal of the controlled substances act, nothing else they can do will effect the change you demand, and thats not gonna happen, even if the entire congress and senate are handed to the democrats on a silver platter. as i have said before, most democrats are also opposed to legalization of cannibus, and youll not even get 10 votes to repeal the entire CSA in the house, and NONE in the senate.
you have placed your faith in the democrats, believing that they all think as you do. but they do not.
screaming imprecations and curses at republicans, conservatives, libertarians and everyone else who doesnt want more big spending democrat poverty pimps in washington, does not advance the cause you claim to support, it only wounds it. which seems to be your goal.
and finally, the capitol rotunda is NOT the "Steps of Congress". there is no "Steps of Congress". there are Steps of the Capitol Building which are outside the place where the House of Representatives meets. but the capitol Rotunda is indoors, where doobies wont get wet in the rain, and the congressmen will all get a contact high.
most importantly, 100 or so potheads blazing up in the captol building will actually do more to advance the cause of legalization than electing a slate of democrats. democrats enjoy the fruits of the "war on drugs" every bit as much are the republicans you despise so much. you never argue against this fact since you know damned well it's true. which would make you a tout. a used car salesman who would sell a lemon to his owm momma as long as he gets that sweet sweet commission check.
FOUR20 SWG
Active Member
My god Kynes...I actually partially agreed with something you posted.
Satan's gonna need an icepick.
Democrats and Republicans are overall both enemies of marijuana. Too much money tied into it being illegal. My own former home area for instance, NNY, is a pretty Democratic-leaning area in a very Blue State. You won't see too many of the local pols come out very strongly for legalization though, despite what Gov. Cuomo is proposing. The reason for that is law enforcement, border patrol in particular, carries alot of weight up there and they hang much of their yearly budget on fighting Canadian hydro coming down from the reservation. Nothing makes headlines like catching up a trunk full of foreign contraband with an inflated street-value driven by a native "smuggler".
So many people got sold on this stupid "Oh Obama smoked a joint in college, SO HE MUST BE DOWN TO LEGALIZE!" bullshit that it makes me want to scream. Why do you think he (Obama) made such a point of not coming out for or against legalization? Because if he's pro then he boosts Republican moral by being the weed-lovin lefty, and if he's anti then he cripples his own base by backtracking on an issue that they feel strongly about.
Where we disagree is on Romney being a better shot. He has outright said that he would fight MEDICAL marijuana tooth-and-nail, so just imagine what he would have thought about recreational.
Instead of waiting on a strong 3rd party candidate, i'd prefer it if we just did away with the concept of political parties and had people run on an individual basis, on a platform of their own and on individual merit. I know I know, this will NEVER happen, because people are too lazy to actually research candidates and would rather hang their hat on "I LIKE THE BLUE DONKEY!" or replace that with a Red Elephant. But a guy can dream right..
Satan's gonna need an icepick.
Democrats and Republicans are overall both enemies of marijuana. Too much money tied into it being illegal. My own former home area for instance, NNY, is a pretty Democratic-leaning area in a very Blue State. You won't see too many of the local pols come out very strongly for legalization though, despite what Gov. Cuomo is proposing. The reason for that is law enforcement, border patrol in particular, carries alot of weight up there and they hang much of their yearly budget on fighting Canadian hydro coming down from the reservation. Nothing makes headlines like catching up a trunk full of foreign contraband with an inflated street-value driven by a native "smuggler".
So many people got sold on this stupid "Oh Obama smoked a joint in college, SO HE MUST BE DOWN TO LEGALIZE!" bullshit that it makes me want to scream. Why do you think he (Obama) made such a point of not coming out for or against legalization? Because if he's pro then he boosts Republican moral by being the weed-lovin lefty, and if he's anti then he cripples his own base by backtracking on an issue that they feel strongly about.
Where we disagree is on Romney being a better shot. He has outright said that he would fight MEDICAL marijuana tooth-and-nail, so just imagine what he would have thought about recreational.
Instead of waiting on a strong 3rd party candidate, i'd prefer it if we just did away with the concept of political parties and had people run on an individual basis, on a platform of their own and on individual merit. I know I know, this will NEVER happen, because people are too lazy to actually research candidates and would rather hang their hat on "I LIKE THE BLUE DONKEY!" or replace that with a Red Elephant. But a guy can dream right..
Dr Kynes
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i dont think romney would have been better on dope than The O-Man, but he is definately more honest in his stance on that one issue. Barry did make a big thing about how medical cannabis was a "state issue" and he was gonna ensure that Eric "Cockbreath" Holder didnt "focus" on "patients and their caregivers" but what he really did was turn Cockbreath loose on everybody growing glaucoma medicine for their gam-gam, and the fools who dared take him at his word, and openly performed their services and delivered their grass to people with a certified need for weed. he also sent Cockbreath on a mission to root out any underground "marijuana factories" where dangerous chemicals and nefarious chemists were cooking up the lethal cocktail of CBD and THC that pot junkies were mainlining and ODing on all around the nation. those criminal gangs of domestic terrorists had to be stopped, before one of their marijuana labs blew up next door to every preschool in the country!
so cockbreath went to town with a tomahawk on every farm (factory!!) every dispensary (Marijuana Gang Hideout) and every dorm closet in the nation, in a frenzy of leaf-hate that even ainslinger would find "optimal" in it's efficiency, brutality, and capriciousness.
and all the while The One pretended he had no hand in it, it was all Cockbreath Holder's doing... just like Fast 'n' Furious....
also, Bush's fault.
Romney admits that he hates the sweet leaf, and compared to Messr. Seotoro, thats refreshingly honest.
FOUR20 SWG
Active Member
You'll hear no defense of Holder from me.
But Tha Mittstah would have been far worse and I honestly believe that. He would have actually been the living embodiment of the joke you were making about the farms=factories thing. That's not an endorsement of what's happened under the Obama administration, just admitting Romney has a decided stake against cannabis. I mean come on, the dude doesn't drink soda. You really think he's gonna support weed?
I'm proud of the people of WA and CO for taking a stand though (even if some of the lingo of the bills is questionable). That seems to be the way to go about it I guess.
Don't wait for the politicians to give you what ya can take for yourself. Make them come right out and admit openly that they don't respect the will of the voting public, so we can begin the process of electing people who do.
But Tha Mittstah would have been far worse and I honestly believe that. He would have actually been the living embodiment of the joke you were making about the farms=factories thing. That's not an endorsement of what's happened under the Obama administration, just admitting Romney has a decided stake against cannabis. I mean come on, the dude doesn't drink soda. You really think he's gonna support weed?
I'm proud of the people of WA and CO for taking a stand though (even if some of the lingo of the bills is questionable). That seems to be the way to go about it I guess.
Don't wait for the politicians to give you what ya can take for yourself. Make them come right out and admit openly that they don't respect the will of the voting public, so we can begin the process of electing people who do.
Dr Kynes
Well-Known Member
election before last i sat up all evening with my pants around my ankles and a fistfull of lotion waiting for the polls to close and the returns to shout Free At Last!, but he miracle didnt happen, and california has no weed legalization.
but hey, we still lead the nation in invalidating gay marriages!
aww shit i was opposed to that one.
golden staters gonna hate.
but hey, we still lead the nation in invalidating gay marriages!
aww shit i was opposed to that one.
golden staters gonna hate.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The one that floored me? Prop 35, passed with a margin like none I've ever seen. Golden Staters can't ****ing read! "Yes oh yes pretty please expand the forfeiture laws!!" Thank you Sir may I have another!!! cn
Doer
Well-Known Member
That doesn't suggest a meaning for me. I''m not taking about politics, but that the issues change sides. Lincoln was a Pub, right? But, the Assassination worked for the Dems to keep the Old South against the blacks.
IAC, back to cannabis.
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Regulations and restrictions on the sale of Cannabis sativa as a drug began as early as 1860. Increased restrictions and labeling of cannabis as a poison began in many states from 1906 onward, and outright prohibitions began in the 1920s
The Virginia Company, by degree of King James I in 1619, ordered every colonist to grow 100 plants specifically for export. Thus, England's only colony in America began to grow hemp in order to meet this obligation and, soon, to serve a growing demand in other colonies.[SUP][2][/SUP] George Washington grew hemp at Mount Vernon as one of his three primary crops. The use of hemp for rope and fabric was ubiquitous throughout the 18th and 19th centuries in the United States. Medicinal preparations of cannabis became available in American pharmacies in the 1850s following an introduction to its use in Western medicine by William O'Shaughnessy a decade earlier in 1839.[SUP][3]
[/SUP]As early as 1853, recreational cannabis was listed as a "fashionable narcotic".[SUP][8]
[/SUP]In the West, the first state to include cannabis as a poison was California. The Poison Act was passed in 1907 and amended in 1909 and 1911, and in 1913 an amendatory act (Stats. 1913,[SUP]
[/SUP]The Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 made possession or transfer of cannabis illegal throughout the United States under federal law,
In 1925 the United States supported regulation of Indian hemp, also known as hashish, in the International Opium Convention.[SUP][18][/SUP]
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For who runs this country...see these charts.
Ernst
Well-Known Member
It was never so much shouting as simply dramatic print. And Size matters with this one.
So all of who promote the idea that some how our American Right will some day support Cannabis People well that is a big lie.
Sure there are some in the ranks that have the position of supporting such things but until over 50% of current Republicans die there will be no change in my opinion.
I am saving the American Left for another thread later.
So friends Libertarians and Republicans ; this includes Tea Party, forget about these guys leading us any place but into the jaws of Prison where they make money for their States!
That is it!
Ernst
Well-Known Member
You just did more of it ass wipe! Jesus! Stop being a dumb ass. Your rambling analogies I skip. So let us focus one second on what you don't know for sure but assume.. "Me." So Assuming makes an ass out of you. But you seem to like sitting at your computer with your pants down around your knees, lotion in hand, while you hang out here so that may say a lot about you.
Do I deride you for being a political masturbator who finds me an object of gratification? Well I am telling you no to masturbating to me so I guess now you will act out being a political masturbating rapist to get your thrills?
That's what it looks like when you take what people say and tell them they can't say such things because you have your joy stick to think of.
So dude.. if you like your self-promotion on being a masturbating political rapist I'll leave you alone with it. If Not then you know my new name for you. Shall I quote you each time from here on out so others have a correct context for you Mr. Masturbates to our threads.
On another aspect of this queer debate.
Our American Right will not support the Cannabis people in re-legalizing so what good are they? Perhaps in 35 years things will change but it's going to be a painful 35 years for them if they don't move towards the American Left.
Newt commented recently that the failure of the Republican party is in not promoting a believable story-line. I thought, as I am sure a million others did at that moment, He is saying the fault isn't the Republican agenda it's the Story they tried to sell.
So Re-Legalizing is a Story I think you Mr. Masturbator want us to believe the Republicans and their ILK can deliver on. It's a Story not a reality.
So what good are the American Right to us and all the people that fill the prisons over Cannabis! What good are they indeed!
What good are you to us Mr. Masturbator?
Ernst
Well-Known Member
You'll hear no defense of Holder from me.
But Tha Mittstah would have been far worse and I honestly believe that. He would have actually been the living embodiment of the joke you were making about the farms=factories thing. That's not an endorsement of what's happened under the Obama administration, just admitting Romney has a decided stake against cannabis. I mean come on, the dude doesn't drink soda. You really think he's gonna support weed?
I'm proud of the people of WA and CO for taking a stand though (even if some of the lingo of the bills is questionable). That seems to be the way to go about it I guess.
Don't wait for the politicians to give you what ya can take for yourself. Make them come right out and admit openly that they don't respect the will of the voting public, so we can begin the process of electing people who do.
Thanks You for the Positive Vibe.
This is the case. I understand there was a 60% Youth turn out for Obama , The American Left. This is down some from 2008 but still trending towards reform.
I support positive vibes in moving forward of Cannabis Re-Legalization. It's a waste of taxpayer monies to keep punishing people for a plant!
Dr Kynes
Well-Known Member
More use than yourself apparently.
Dr Kynes
Well-Known Member
you may have as many as you can take.The one that floored me? Prop 35, passed with a margin like none I've ever seen. Golden Staters can't ****ing read! "Yes oh yes pretty please expand the forfeiture laws!!" Thank you Sir may I have another!!! cn
Californians are the biggest dipshits on the planet sometimes.
I suspect with the right people advocating it, and a few million dollars in ad money we could sell Jim Crow, and possibly even good old fashioned slavery to the California electorate.
the state legislature creates a couple dozen referendums every election cycle, all designed to take the pressure to do their jobs off their backs. usually they go down in flames, but every now and then they find enough suckers to push through their latest scheme.
Fortunately their machiavellian plots are almost always found unconstitutional before they can crank up their spanking machine to 11.
Ernst
Well-Known Member
So do you have an education to go with all those opinions?
A PHD in psychology perhaps?
You do see how no one is chatting in this thread any more yes? I'm sure you think that has nothing to do with you.
They say winning a fight on the Internet is like proving to everyone that they are retarded. It's the conversation that makes the Internet usefull not getting your personal thrills because you want people to stop saying things you don't like and are uncomfortable with being said.
So look in the mirror if you need to hate anyone else because I will never hate myself over you.
You Win!
