can i use molasses or any sugar adds with the canna coco line nutes

chemphlegm

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molasses:wall:
add weight to the buds:wall:
Do yo think rhizotonic or canazym add weight to the bud ? Or are these just for the root system

its too late for this one. lots of heavy buds begins in veg, not halfway through flower.
1k hid lights
dehuey
c02 augmentation
proper feeding/watering
air circulation
air conditioning
air scrubbing
quality water supply

this is what makes heavy flowers, there are no tricks, thank Shiva for books
what did kids do before the net geesh
 

Dr. Who

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molasses:wall:
add weight to the buds:wall:



its too late for this one. lots of heavy buds begins in veg, not halfway through flower.
1k hid lights
dehuey
c02 augmentation
proper feeding/watering
air circulation
air conditioning
air scrubbing
quality water supply

this is what makes heavy flowers, there are no tricks, thank Shiva for books
what did kids do before the net geesh
Aw, chemmy.....Nice job! Molasses is WAY overrated and the bigger bud shit is a myth...

Once you add molasses to feed solutions in amounts like 1 tsp or so. Your not adding very much of anything except carbs in the form of sugars.
These sugars do feed the living bio's in the soil some......But contain so little in anything else at those dilutions - your not getting any real benefit from it! (other then feeding those living bio's, and most nutrients contain some carbs to do that already...

Too much molasses (or any carb for that matter) can make the soil ferment and that will cause an anaerobic condition and kill off the plant.

THE best way to use molasses, is to make AACT simple bio teas with it.

Co2 use is fine for small grows.....Takes a lot of attention.....BEST used with a digital controller.......I find it to be not worth the cost at larger scales...

If people would truly find the facts about Co2. Many would find they do it wrong! High heats and RH along with high lighting intensity are required for it to work. Plants can "use" up to 1500 ppm of Co2 BUT, no one has the required lighting intensity to actually make that work at that level. 1300 ppm is basically the real ceiling...The actual benefit from 1500 vs. 1300 is so small per cost to achieve it....That running over 1300 is simply a waste of money.
Anyone who says their getting better results with running over 1500 - is full of 100% BS!

Good call on the molasses Chem!
 

chemphlegm

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@Dr. Who

I'm floored by how much c02 a single pilot light provides in a sealed room(with no plants)
even working in there for short periods raises the c02 quickly. I'm also surprised at how quickly
its gone with rooms full of plants. I agree with avoiding it for most home grows. It can be dangerous, is a pain in the ass
to manage, and lit propane burners for 12 hours indoor isnt ever going to feel like the right thing to do, to me, regardless of the return.

with that said I've done personal experiments with my co2 production/management/IPM and today I use a cool timer in conjunction with a digi controller to stagger the c02 production in my rooms as opposed to a constant ppm for 12/12.

I'd replace the unit(s) in a day if they failed. I noticed losses without and refuse to change settings in my room to accommodate(unseal).

Before the rooms were a sealed system I used the outdoor air and never saw losses, but paid for the outdoor air fiasco's, hence, sealed rooms/c02/scrubbers etc. Grew in tents in my home one year and saw no reason for c02 addition.

=most home gardens need not fuss with c02 augmentation.
 

Dr. Who

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I have Co2 Generation available for use in the op. Complete enviro controller....In the almost 2 years of the new op. Water chiller to cool the water used buy the Gen cooler.... I haven't fired it up once...I don't even have the gen. hung. The gas line is there. Just never hooked it up.
Always remember that burning propane. Will give you ruffly 1/2 gallon of water in the air for every gallon of propane burned.
 

chemphlegm

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i have both, a pilot gen and a liquid cooled one , thought I might appreciate it in the summer. I had the cooled one first, costs more in electricity to run the pump to cool it than it did to keep 12/12 1500ppm propane! i havent used the water cooled(retrofit on demand hot water) in a few years. i like my pilot 4 burner cap unit. wish i had nat gas available. propane filler guys always got something to say mehh
 

chemphlegm

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i used a 55 drum half full of antifreeze/water sitting outside the room in the cold to cool that dumb thing for a year. the unit function and redundant controls were persnickety. in retrospect was wasted cash, unnecessary cooling too imo, wall mount seemed weird too, fuckin thing
 

*BUDS

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What is Flores ? I use canna a and b cannazym canna boost and left rhizotonic out at week two flower
Some strains are sensitive to pk, kool bloom etc , ive burn the shit out of plants twice with one hit at recommended dose. To get the heavy weight have the plants healthy and green with as much folliage as possible at the end, keep temps cool and wait longer than usual and dont try to beef up yellow p;ants with magic sauces .
 

Dr.Nick Riviera

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Some strains are sensitive to pk, kool bloom etc , ive burn the shit out of plants twice with one hit at recommended dose. To get the heavy weight have the plants healthy and green with as much folliage as possible at the end, keep temps cool and wait longer than usual and dont try to beef up yellow p;ants with magic sauces .
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